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THuG Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 11:10 pm Posts: 126	Good Patch Thank you HiRez for listening and making the game better. Auto nerf + sentinel 10 sec respawn (Maybe a bit harsh but necessary). Thanks. We love you long time.
Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:01 pm

Antago Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:11 pm Posts: 419	Re: Good Patch I'll quit playing chaser now, but other than that the patch is good. I agree.
Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:41 pm

HTooms Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:39 am Posts: 588	Re: Good Patch its live? do tell more. im at work. _________________ Whiny Bit**!
Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:42 pm

flopsy Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:22 pm Posts: 78	Re: Good Patch All I do is chase in pubs and comp and this patch might just kill that role for me. What a f*** disaster.
Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:55 pm

caaok Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:55 pm Posts: 1110	Re: Good Patch Lightweight+Rage will quite possibly make catching cappers feasible, though we won't know until things go live. Personally I'm excited. _________________ What we lose with hitscan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XevsFIitY
Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:49 pm

FreaK367 Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm Posts: 587 Location: England Steam Gamer Name: FreaK	Re: Good Patch flopsy wrote: All I do is chase in pubs and comp and this patch might just kill that role for me. What a f*** disaster. How?, do you rely on spamming an automatic? If so, this might just make you put some actual effort into chasing. _________________ Desired: Bind VGS commands to keys. Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap) Large Automatic Nerfs Decent Plasma Gun Nerf Large Jackal Nerf
Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:29 am

illerFFN Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:52 pm Posts: 1174	Re: Good Patch THuG wrote: sentinel 10 sec respawn (Maybe a bit harsh but necessary). only a "bit" harsh? ...hell, it doesn't even address the real problem. SPOILER ALERT... you're not going to have an easy time killing those "Pub Star" Sentinels anyway. All this does is screw over mediocre SENs like me who get farmed for points b/c no one is watching our backs. Pub Stars usually have a butt buddy or someone who realizes the only reason the flag is being held is b/c the guy with the Rifle has uncanny aim so they protect that guy since it's a lot easier than trying to protect the Stand itself which is being bombarded nonstop by scrubs. I just hope their comment in the Patch notes about a REAL fix coming eventually is serious.
Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:39 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: Good Patch Holy crap... this patch is so good I'd have thought it was some kind of fake if it weren't linked from the launcher window o_0 I think I'll actually start playing again... I didn't stop playing out of discontent, more that I got distracted by more entertaining games in the last few weeks, but with the plethora of f***ing awesome changes this patch is bringing T:A will probably move back up to the top of my favourite games list And to the above discussion: The SEN respawn nerf is kind of a place-holder nerf while they figure out a more elegant solution; they stated in their patch notes that they are planning a better solution. But the reasoning behind the nerf is solid - killing Sentinels in CTF really doesn't do anything, since most snipe from near spawn anyway, so killing them literally only takes a few seconds out of their time and doesn't effect their effectivity much compared to other classes.... A lot of the time it's genuinely more effective to just harrass a Sentinel and not kill him, since it wastes more of his time than a death would, and when not killing an enemy you're fighting is the best option you know there's something wrong with the game mechanics. PS: Was mention Brute skins ever a thing in the time I've been gone? That was one of the things that dampened my urge to play _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:08 am

THuG Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 11:10 pm Posts: 126	Re: Good Patch I really think they should have just chose a middle ground and made the sentinel respawn time 7 seconds instead of 10. 7 Seconds + the time to fully charge your shot is pretty good IMO. 10 seconds is pretty ruthless on those sents.
Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:24 am

VashTHT Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:28 pm Posts: 1104	Re: Good Patch THuG wrote: I really think they should have just chose a middle ground and made the sentinel respawn time 7 seconds instead of 10. 7 Seconds + the time to fully charge your shot is pretty good IMO. 10 seconds is pretty ruthless on those sents. That's why I'm promoting an idea other players before me thought of: viewtopic.php?f=313&t=74287 Let them spawn, just don't let the sniper rifle fire for 5 to 10 seconds, they way the Sentinel can repair stuff, place deployables, get a vehicle, etc. He should still be allowed to use his secondary. I think this is a good way so classes don't get different spawn times. They ought to all be the same, right? _________________ AsuraPhoenix wrote: blackwhiskers wrote: regarding boosting - sometimes nitron jumps indeed do squat, but no dice 8 out of 10 times? dude, you're bad, then. learn to throw nitrons properly behind you, not beneath you. No, i'm not bad. Some people can just recreate bugs easier than others. No offense, I just thought this was hilarious.
Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 am

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THuG

Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 11:10 pm
Posts: 126

Good Patch

Thank you HiRez for listening and making the game better. Auto nerf + sentinel 10 sec respawn (Maybe a bit harsh but necessary).

Thanks. We love you long time.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:01 pm

Antago

Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:11 pm
Posts: 419

Re: Good Patch

I'll quit playing chaser now, but other than that the patch is good. I agree.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:41 pm

HTooms

Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:39 am
Posts: 588

Re: Good Patch

its live? do tell more. im at work.

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Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:42 pm

flopsy

Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:22 pm
Posts: 78

Re: Good Patch

All I do is chase in pubs and comp and this patch might just kill that role for me. What a f*** disaster.

Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:55 pm

caaok

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 1110

Re: Good Patch

Lightweight+Rage will quite possibly make catching cappers feasible, though we won't know until things go live.

Personally I'm excited.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XevsFIitY

Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:49 pm

FreaK367

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm
Posts: 587
Location: England
Steam Gamer Name: FreaK

Re: Good Patch

flopsy wrote:

All I do is chase in pubs and comp and this patch might just kill that role for me. What a f*** disaster.

How?, do you rely on spamming an automatic?

If so, this might just make you put some actual effort into chasing.

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Desired:
Bind VGS commands to keys.
Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap)
Large Automatic Nerfs
Decent Plasma Gun Nerf
Large Jackal Nerf

Tue Jun 12, 2012 12:29 am

illerFFN

Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:52 pm
Posts: 1174

Re: Good Patch

THuG wrote:

sentinel 10 sec respawn (Maybe a bit harsh but necessary).

only a "bit" harsh? ...hell, it doesn't even address the real problem.

SPOILER ALERT... you're not going to have an easy time killing those "Pub Star" Sentinels anyway. All this does is screw over mediocre SENs like me who get farmed for points b/c no one is watching our backs. Pub Stars usually have a butt buddy or someone who realizes the only reason the flag is being held is b/c the guy with the Rifle has uncanny aim so they protect that guy since it's a lot easier than trying to protect the Stand itself which is being bombarded nonstop by scrubs.

I just hope their comment in the Patch notes about a REAL fix coming eventually is serious.

Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:39 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: Good Patch

Holy crap... this patch is so good I'd have thought it was some kind of fake if it weren't linked from the launcher window o_0

I think I'll actually start playing again...
I didn't stop playing out of discontent, more that I got distracted by more entertaining games in the last few weeks, but with the plethora of f***ing awesome changes this patch is bringing T:A will probably move back up to the top of my favourite games list

And to the above discussion: The SEN respawn nerf is kind of a place-holder nerf while they figure out a more elegant solution; they stated in their patch notes that they are planning a better solution.
But the reasoning behind the nerf is solid - killing Sentinels in CTF really doesn't do anything, since most snipe from near spawn anyway, so killing them literally only takes a few seconds out of their time and doesn't effect their effectivity much compared to other classes....
A lot of the time it's genuinely more effective to just harrass a Sentinel and not kill him, since it wastes more of his time than a death would, and when not killing an enemy you're fighting is the best option you know there's something wrong with the game mechanics.

PS: Was mention Brute skins ever a thing in the time I've been gone? That was one of the things that dampened my urge to play

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Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:08 am

THuG

Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 11:10 pm
Posts: 126

Re: Good Patch

I really think they should have just chose a middle ground and made the sentinel respawn time 7 seconds instead of 10.

7 Seconds + the time to fully charge your shot is pretty good IMO.

10 seconds is pretty ruthless on those sents.

Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:24 am

VashTHT

Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:28 pm
Posts: 1104

Re: Good Patch

THuG wrote:

That's why I'm promoting an idea other players before me thought of:

viewtopic.php?f=313&t=74287

Let them spawn, just don't let the sniper rifle fire for 5 to 10 seconds, they way the Sentinel can repair stuff, place deployables, get a vehicle, etc. He should still be allowed to use his secondary.

I think this is a good way so classes don't get different spawn times. They ought to all be the same, right?

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AsuraPhoenix wrote:

blackwhiskers wrote:

regarding boosting - sometimes nitron jumps indeed do squat, but no dice 8 out of 10 times? dude, you're bad, then. learn to throw nitrons properly behind you, not beneath you.

No, i'm not bad. Some people can just recreate bugs easier than others.

No offense, I just thought this was hilarious.

Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 am

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