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Fingon Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:55 pm Posts: 1467	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason Pkunk wrote: d3vils-f1st wrote: If this your first post you should of read the rules before you posted. No Name, No Shame - If you think someone in-game is breaking any of the policies or best practices discussed here, use the in-game /REPORT function for the first time you see it. If you feel someone is slipping through the cracks, send one (1) email to hirezsupport@hirezstudios.com with clear details. Just go away. Right now! Go away! You are not the board police so f*** off! If you don't want your thread to be deleted.... I guess you do have to. Also is there any reason you are so offensive? _________________ Please support the cause for better CTF PUB games! TOP forum Thread Fingon's montages http://www.twitch.tv/Fingonar -Fingon, Flamboyant Teammember.
Wed May 30, 2012 5:24 pm

hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason Fingon wrote: Also is there any reason you are so offensive? It turns out that in their last lives, the Ilwrath were all shining beings of pure light and blissfull love. They had reached the pinnacle of spiritual evolution and could go no further. They were perfection. And then, somehow they got just a tiny bit better and WHAM, they were all of a sudden totally evil. Wouldn't you know it, get too perfect and you wrap right around to evil. That is why Pkunk strives to be perfect, but always does little bad and annoying things to keep from ending up like the Ilwrath. (But seriously, that's more offensiveness than the SC2 joke warrants.) _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options.
Wed May 30, 2012 5:48 pm

Rangelost Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:09 pm Posts: 157	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason Never fear, your friendly neighborhood Rangelost is here! FIRST PERSON SPECTATING Did you know? First person spectating actually exists in Tribes: Ascend! It is currently only accessible through an interface glitch, so I am afraid it is not yet legitimate to use it (let alone explain how to do so), but it may give some hope for people who have been looking forward to this feature. SETTINGS While the menus feel as though they were designed for a console game, they are quite self-explainatory and not that much of a pain to use, in my opinion. I do agree that a large panel filled with controls would be much better when it comes to the options, as it is currently difficult to have an overview of the current settings, but it certainly is not top priority, is it? And just like any other modern game, you may want to consider that Tribes: Ascend is still and will remain in beta for years to come. Once enough content is released, then we might start getting features that should have been implemented since the very beginning. Who knows, we might even get bug fixes someday! WEAPON BALANCE Although I midair quite often with the Spinfusor myself, I must point out that it is much easier to hit a target on the ground with an automatic bullet weapon, than it is to hit a target in the air with an explosive projectile. I feel that the main issue with automatics is how accurate they are; the classic chaingun has always been an anti-air weapon, but it was also limited to close range only, so that it was used as a finishing weapon. In Tribes: Ascend, people will simply drain your life bar from 100% to 0% in an instant with what should be a "finishing weapon", and that, from very far away. SERVER AND LAG MANAGEMENT Keep in mind that Hi-Rez are dealing with Unreal Engine 3. It's obnoxious, it's heavy, and it's slow. I don't know how much can be done for a "fast-paced" game like Tribes: Ascend with that engine. In all honesty, they should have stuck with Unreal Engine 2.5, but I guess most people only care about better graphics. [VGTW] When will you learn? COMMUNICATION Hi-Rez Studios are not many people to begin with, and they probably are being overwhelmed with newbloods who don't understand why everyone is flying and sliding around in the game. But I do agree that if the community was being acknowleged more than it currently is, there could be place for a more friendly atmosphere, rather than a constant spam of "Hi-Rez only care about our money!" And do not worry about cheaters. Sure, they are present in the game, and will most likely always be, but consider them viruses; only once they find a new way to cheat can we figure out how to prevent them from doing so. It will only get harder and harder for them, and never will it be worth the effort. Just keep playing, so that one day, you become good enough that you are the one being accused of cheating. _________________
Wed May 30, 2012 5:53 pm

zcraider Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 11:08 am Posts: 7	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason Thanks rangelost. You post made me smile today. I think i have had the pleasure of playing a few games with you in the past lol. Thanks for your contribution
Wed May 30, 2012 10:22 pm

Rangelost Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:09 pm Posts: 157	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason _________________
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Fingon Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:55 pm Posts: 1467	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason hvcterr wrote: Fingon wrote: Also is there any reason you are so offensive? It turns out that in their last lives, the Ilwrath were all shining beings of pure light and blissfull love. They had reached the pinnacle of spiritual evolution and could go no further. They were perfection. And then, somehow they got just a tiny bit better and WHAM, they were all of a sudden totally evil. Wouldn't you know it, get too perfect and you wrap right around to evil. That is why Pkunk strives to be perfect, but always does little bad and annoying things to keep from ending up like the Ilwrath. (But seriously, that's more offensiveness than the SC2 joke warrants.) You are awesome for writing that up. Seriousily. _________________ Please support the cause for better CTF PUB games! TOP forum Thread Fingon's montages http://www.twitch.tv/Fingonar -Fingon, Flamboyant Teammember.
Thu May 31, 2012 3:05 pm

fourdee Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:44 pm Posts: 575	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason zcraider wrote: ADD FIRST PERSON SPEC Good post: Couldn't agree more, 1st person spectate missing in a "comp/esports" self classified game is somewhat a joke. zcraider wrote: Settings I think they are restricted by the Xbox user friendly menu system. It currently look great, but has zero usability. If you have seen the HUD settings menu, you will laugh, cry, squint your eyes and then realize why some settings have to be left to the .INI file zcraider wrote: Server and Lag I think this is due to mainly client issues (mem leaks and lack of optimizations) escalating over time. Servers are dreadful at times, mainly in peak times. Netcode does seem to lack decent interpolation to prevent "warping" players on +50ms ping connections. If both server and client are optimized for performance, the current server play-ability will increase.
Thu May 31, 2012 3:16 pm

HTooms Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:39 am Posts: 588	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason where is the man of reason? _________________ Whiny Bit**!
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Wobberjockey Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am Posts: 8726 Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason any man of reason or of sound mind would not be on this forum. _________________ original art at http://tinyurl.com/shazbotsig The Tribes READ ME. Quite possibly the most important thread you'll never read
Thu May 31, 2012 7:06 pm

zcraider Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 11:08 am Posts: 7	Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason "A man of reason" is <--------------- Edit: "The man of reason" is reserved for someone that lived on this earth thousands of years ago. The REASON... I started this thread, is to draw out like minded ones. People who have noticed the same things I have. People who are passionate about sportsmanship and the "FUN" factor of this game, or rather ALL GAMES. People who notice that things...are not quite right. People who with enough numbers.... have the potential to change or rather, improve elements in this game that seem less than desirable. People who choose to fight...whether than wither out into the night.....fainting from the blows of failure. People who choose not to follow the status quo of those who do not "think". People who create there reality instead of following some elses. Why you may ask? Why post a thread in a forum mixed with people who care...and those who are ignorant? Those who are casual...and those who are serious. Those who are on Hi rez's payroll and those who are supplying there payroll? Those who freelance, and those who support? "Because I choose to" NEO FTW. P.S - I would like to thank all that have contributed positive or constructive comments to this thread. Thank you again for reading my lengthy post and i encourage all to continue. If you have something to say, please do. If it has to be something negative, i dont mind. However, I heard a wise woman say, "if you cant say something nice, dont say it at all" Might have been from a movie...Negativity will snuff out the person generating it. Because nobody likes a naysayer. Thanks again!!
Thu May 31, 2012 11:57 pm

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Fingon

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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

Pkunk wrote:

d3vils-f1st wrote:

If this your first post you should of read the rules before you posted.

No Name, No Shame - If you think someone in-game is breaking any of the policies or best practices discussed here, use the in-game /REPORT function for the first time you see it. If you feel someone is slipping through the cracks, send one (1) email to hirezsupport@hirezstudios.com with clear details.

Just go away. Right now! Go away!

You are not the board police so f*** off!

If you don't want your thread to be deleted.... I guess you do have to. Also is there any reason you are so offensive?

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Wed May 30, 2012 5:24 pm

hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

Fingon wrote:

Also is there any reason you are so offensive?

It turns out that in their last lives, the Ilwrath were all shining beings of pure light and blissfull love. They had reached the pinnacle of spiritual evolution and could go no further. They were perfection. And then, somehow they got just a tiny bit better and WHAM, they were all of a sudden totally evil.

Wouldn't you know it, get too perfect and you wrap right around to evil. That is why Pkunk strives to be perfect, but always does little bad and annoying things to keep from ending up like the Ilwrath.

(But seriously, that's more offensiveness than the SC2 joke warrants.)

_________________
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Wed May 30, 2012 5:48 pm

Rangelost

Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:09 pm
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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

Never fear, your friendly neighborhood Rangelost is here!

FIRST PERSON SPECTATING

Did you know? First person spectating actually exists in Tribes: Ascend! It is currently only accessible through an interface glitch, so I am afraid it is not yet legitimate to use it (let alone explain how to do so), but it may give some hope for people who have been looking forward to this feature.
SETTINGS

While the menus feel as though they were designed for a console game, they are quite self-explainatory and not that much of a pain to use, in my opinion. I do agree that a large panel filled with controls would be much better when it comes to the options, as it is currently difficult to have an overview of the current settings, but it certainly is not top priority, is it?

And just like any other modern game, you may want to consider that Tribes: Ascend is still and will remain in beta for years to come. Once enough content is released, then we might start getting features that should have been implemented since the very beginning. Who knows, we might even get bug fixes someday!
WEAPON BALANCE

Although I midair quite often with the Spinfusor myself, I must point out that it is much easier to hit a target on the ground with an automatic bullet weapon, than it is to hit a target in the air with an explosive projectile.

I feel that the main issue with automatics is how accurate they are; the classic chaingun has always been an anti-air weapon, but it was also limited to close range only, so that it was used as a finishing weapon. In Tribes: Ascend, people will simply drain your life bar from 100% to 0% in an instant with what should be a "finishing weapon", and that, from very far away.
SERVER AND LAG MANAGEMENT

Keep in mind that Hi-Rez are dealing with Unreal Engine 3. It's obnoxious, it's heavy, and it's slow. I don't know how much can be done for a "fast-paced" game like Tribes: Ascend with that engine. In all honesty, they should have stuck with Unreal Engine 2.5, but I guess most people only care about better graphics.

[VGTW] When will you learn?
COMMUNICATION

Hi-Rez Studios are not many people to begin with, and they probably are being overwhelmed with newbloods who don't understand why everyone is flying and sliding around in the game. But I do agree that if the community was being acknowleged more than it currently is, there could be place for a more friendly atmosphere, rather than a constant spam of "Hi-Rez only care about our money!"

And do not worry about cheaters. Sure, they are present in the game, and will most likely always be, but consider them viruses; only once they find a new way to cheat can we figure out how to prevent them from doing so. It will only get harder and harder for them, and never will it be worth the effort.

Just keep playing, so that one day, you become good enough that you are the one being accused of cheating.

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Wed May 30, 2012 5:53 pm

zcraider

Joined: Wed May 30, 2012 11:08 am
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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

Thanks rangelost. You post made me smile today.

I think i have had the pleasure of playing a few games with you in the past lol.

Thanks for your contribution

Wed May 30, 2012 10:22 pm

Rangelost

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Wed May 30, 2012 11:00 pm

Fingon

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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

hvcterr wrote:

Fingon wrote:

Also is there any reason you are so offensive?

You are awesome for writing that up. Seriousily. :mrgreen:

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Fingon's montages
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Thu May 31, 2012 3:05 pm

fourdee

Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:44 pm
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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

zcraider wrote:

ADD FIRST PERSON SPEC

Good post: Couldn't agree more, 1st person spectate missing in a "comp/esports" self classified game is somewhat a joke.

zcraider wrote:

Settings

I think they are restricted by the Xbox user friendly menu system. It currently look great, but has zero usability.

If you have seen the HUD settings menu, you will laugh, cry, squint your eyes and then realize why some settings have to be left to the .INI file

zcraider wrote:

Server and Lag

I think this is due to mainly client issues (mem leaks and lack of optimizations) escalating over time.
Servers are dreadful at times, mainly in peak times.

Netcode does seem to lack decent interpolation to prevent "warping" players on +50ms ping connections.

If both server and client are optimized for performance, the current server play-ability will increase.

Thu May 31, 2012 3:16 pm

HTooms

Joined: Fri Nov 18, 2011 6:39 am
Posts: 588

Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

where is the man of reason?

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Thu May 31, 2012 6:48 pm

Wobberjockey

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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

any man of reason or of sound mind would not be on this forum.

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Thu May 31, 2012 7:06 pm

zcraider

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Re: Tribes and Suggestions - From a man of Reason

"A man of reason" is :ugeek:

<---------------

Edit: "The man of reason" is reserved for someone that lived on this earth thousands of years ago.

:geek:

The REASON... I started this thread, is to draw out like minded ones.

People who have noticed the same things I have. People who are passionate about sportsmanship and the "FUN" factor of this game, or rather ALL GAMES. People who notice that things...are not quite right. People who with enough numbers.... have the potential to change or rather, improve elements in this game that seem less than desirable. People who choose to fight...whether than wither out into the night.....fainting from the blows of failure. People who choose not to follow the status quo of those who do not "think". People who create there reality instead of following some elses.

Why you may ask? Why post a thread in a forum mixed with people who care...and those who are ignorant? Those who are casual...and those who are serious. Those who are on Hi rez's payroll and those who are supplying there payroll? Those who freelance, and those who support?

"Because I choose to"

NEO FTW.

P.S - I would like to thank all that have contributed positive or constructive comments to this thread. Thank you again for reading my lengthy post and i encourage all to continue. If you have something to say, please do. If it has to be something negative, i dont mind. However, I heard a wise woman say, "if you cant say something nice, dont say it at all" Might have been from a movie...Negativity will snuff out the person generating it. Because nobody likes a naysayer.

Thanks again!!

Thu May 31, 2012 11:57 pm

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