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One Sniper to Rule Them All
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-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4813 Location: NA East	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All The BXT1 needs to be replaced by a full physics overhaul and the falcon needs to be moved to the SLD, and probably replaced by the Sparrow. Then give him the new projectile sniper for a mobile sniping option, and we're good. Good thing all we need to fix chasing is a full rework of core physics. It could be something difficult. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Mon May 21, 2012 2:42 am

IKraKen Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2011 7:25 am Posts: 190	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All Without the falcon I don't think we would be having this issue... as much. Wtf they added it is madness. Madness!!! _________________
Mon May 21, 2012 2:49 am

Vondrak Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 9:50 pm Posts: 154	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All Canucck wrote: The best way to deal with snipers in pubs if you're soloing is to kill them after the flag is grabbed, and to hold off on actually killing them for as long as possible if they decide to duel you instead of shooting the capper. Exactly. The best way to deal with a sniper (and this actually goes for all flag D) is to distract them and duel them, but not kill them. If you can keep their attention for 10 secs, it's better than killing them and letting them respawn in 5. The problem with this is trying to survive for 10 secs against anyone who's halfway decent with the Falcon.
Mon May 21, 2012 4:15 am

antminer Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:50 am Posts: 2	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All i find that as a raider i end up doing alot of shooting stationary objects from a distance so i find killing snipers very easy because all it takes to kill them is two stickgrenades
Mon May 21, 2012 6:29 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All Vondrak wrote: Exactly. The best way to deal with a sniper (and this actually goes for all flag D) is to distract them and duel them, but not kill them. If you can keep their attention for 10 secs, it's better than killing them and letting them respawn in 5. The problem with this is trying to survive for 10 secs against anyone who's halfway decent with the Falcon. Mm, this has always disturbed me. Death really holds little in the way of downsides, and being harassed is far more harmful to performance than being killed outright, which is pretty much the most unintuitive thing imaginable. Mere 5 second respawns gives a really weird and disconcerting game mechanic where death is not a disadvantage in most cases, such to the point that the suicide key is frequently used as a form of convenience. _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Mon May 21, 2012 6:51 am

MrLordcaptain Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm Posts: 654	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All SEN should either spawn without rifle (That would also mean that certain INV stations had to be removed from spawn points like Drydock or Katabatik) or they should spawn in the gen room. 2nd alternativ: Remove all hitscan from the game I will not even talk about the falcon, anyone noticed that the only class without auto is the BRT? _________________ Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns
Mon May 21, 2012 7:27 am

VashTHT Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:28 pm Posts: 1104	Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All DibbzTheLoner wrote: Vondrak wrote: Exactly. The best way to deal with a sniper (and this actually goes for all flag D) is to distract them and duel them, but not kill them. If you can keep their attention for 10 secs, it's better than killing them and letting them respawn in 5. The problem with this is trying to survive for 10 secs against anyone who's halfway decent with the Falcon. Mm, this has always disturbed me. Death really holds little in the way of downsides, and being harassed is far more harmful to performance than being killed outright, which is pretty much the most unintuitive thing imaginable. Mere 5 second respawns gives a really weird and disconcerting game mechanic where death is not a disadvantage in most cases, such to the point that the suicide key is frequently used as a form of convenience. I could be wrong, but I swear I saw a guy hit "K" right before I blue-plated him. He saw the spinfusor coming, couldn't dodge, and then just went ragdoll in the middle of the air. 5 second respawn can work, it just has to be balanced with everything else, and right now it isn't. _________________ AsuraPhoenix wrote: blackwhiskers wrote: regarding boosting - sometimes nitron jumps indeed do squat, but no dice 8 out of 10 times? dude, you're bad, then. learn to throw nitrons properly behind you, not beneath you. No, i'm not bad. Some people can just recreate bugs easier than others. No offense, I just thought this was hilarious.
Mon May 21, 2012 7:31 am

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-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
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Location: NA East

Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All

The BXT1 needs to be replaced by a full physics overhaul and the falcon needs to be moved to the SLD, and probably replaced by the Sparrow.

Then give him the new projectile sniper for a mobile sniping option, and we're good.

Good thing all we need to fix chasing is a full rework of core physics. It could be something difficult. :roll:

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Mon May 21, 2012 2:42 am

Vondrak

Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 9:50 pm
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Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All

Canucck wrote:

The best way to deal with snipers in pubs if you're soloing is to kill them after the flag is grabbed, and to hold off on actually killing them for as long as possible if they decide to duel you instead of shooting the capper.

Exactly. The best way to deal with a sniper (and this actually goes for all flag D) is to distract them and duel them, but not kill them. If you can keep their attention for 10 secs, it's better than killing them and letting them respawn in 5. The problem with this is trying to survive for 10 secs against anyone who's halfway decent with the Falcon.

Mon May 21, 2012 4:15 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All

Vondrak wrote:

Exactly. The best way to deal with a sniper (and this actually goes for all flag D) is to distract them and duel them, but not kill them. If you can keep their attention for 10 secs, it's better than killing them and letting them respawn in 5. The problem with this is trying to survive for 10 secs against anyone who's halfway decent with the Falcon.

Mm, this has always disturbed me. Death really holds little in the way of downsides, and being harassed is far more harmful to performance than being killed outright, which is pretty much the most unintuitive thing imaginable.

Mere 5 second respawns gives a really weird and disconcerting game mechanic where death is not a disadvantage in most cases, such to the point that the suicide key is frequently used as a form of convenience.

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Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green.
Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!

Mon May 21, 2012 6:51 am

VashTHT

Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 1:28 pm
Posts: 1104

Re: One Sniper to Rule Them All

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

Vondrak wrote:

Exactly. The best way to deal with a sniper (and this actually goes for all flag D) is to distract them and duel them, but not kill them. If you can keep their attention for 10 secs, it's better than killing them and letting them respawn in 5. The problem with this is trying to survive for 10 secs against anyone who's halfway decent with the Falcon.

Mm, this has always disturbed me. Death really holds little in the way of downsides, and being harassed is far more harmful to performance than being killed outright, which is pretty much the most unintuitive thing imaginable.

Mere 5 second respawns gives a really weird and disconcerting game mechanic where death is not a disadvantage in most cases, such to the point that the suicide key is frequently used as a form of convenience.

I could be wrong, but I swear I saw a guy hit "K" right before I blue-plated him. He saw the spinfusor coming, couldn't dodge, and then just went ragdoll in the middle of the air.

5 second respawn can work, it just has to be balanced with everything else, and right now it isn't.

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AsuraPhoenix wrote:

blackwhiskers wrote:

regarding boosting - sometimes nitron jumps indeed do squat, but no dice 8 out of 10 times? dude, you're bad, then. learn to throw nitrons properly behind you, not beneath you.

No, i'm not bad. Some people can just recreate bugs easier than others.

No offense, I just thought this was hilarious.

Mon May 21, 2012 7:31 am

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