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timeraider1 Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 11	Melee range at beta, meleerange was perfect..especially at infiltrator..you had to be close, but still reasonable distance..armdistance.. but now... you first need to stick your arm in his back, hump against his leg and then u might be able to melee him. atm melee is only usable against people who are afk..else theyll never die by the hands of an melee attack. I think it might be good to review the usefullness of the meleeattack and either revamp it totally or change some figures
Wed May 16, 2012 7:51 am

Immie Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm Posts: 1310	Re: Melee range Strange. I'm pretty sure melee range has never been changed. _________________ Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes.
Wed May 16, 2012 8:13 am

raqyee Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:52 am Posts: 1914	Re: Melee range It's not about range it's about the delay which makes it really difficult. Range is fine I think. _________________ Feel free to add me on steam \| Member of conclave.cc
Wed May 16, 2012 8:15 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: Melee range The range is fine - any more and it'll appear that you're telekinetically hitting people. The standard delay coupled with latency is what makes it difficult to use.... still very possible to melee effectively if you can figure out the timings. _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Wed May 16, 2012 8:31 am

shazbeta Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:07 pm Posts: 185	Re: Melee range As others have beaten me to saying, the range is fine (and hasn't been changed by release, as far as I can tell), it's the odd delay that causes problems. More info here - viewtopic.php?f=314&t=64210
Wed May 16, 2012 12:59 pm

timeraider1 Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 11	Re: Melee range ah thanks.. alot has been explained
Wed May 16, 2012 1:07 pm

DemoEvolved Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 2031	Re: Melee range I am regularly chasing a heavy that is running in a straight line, and Im sure i can melee him, but when i strike, only the sonic punch wave hits him, dealing no damage, and then he turns around and shoots me. Although I am loathe to make infils more powerful, I think they need an extra detection hitbox that sticks out like a rod while they are moving forwards. aka. like a shocklance. Another option that might help would be some screen indicator when the victim WOULD be struck by a melee, then the player could just wait until the range indicator is lit and it would help in learning.
Wed May 16, 2012 1:18 pm

shazbeta Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:07 pm Posts: 185	Re: Melee range DemoEvolved wrote: I am regularly chasing a heavy that is running in a straight line, and Im sure i can melee him, but when i strike, only the sonic punch wave hits him, dealing no damage, and then he turns around and shoots me. Yes, although I don't have Sonic Punch. Either nothing happens, or I hear the hit sound, but no damage is dealt. Again, more in depth info in the previous thread. Quote: Although I am loathe to make infils more powerful, I think they need an extra detection hitbox that sticks out like a rod while they are moving forwards. aka. like a shocklance. There are lots of (arguably better) suggestions in the previous thread. I'm not certain that we need a new thread, when the previous is earlier, larger and has much more information already in it. Quote: Another option that might help would be some screen indicator when the victim WOULD be struck by a melee, then the player could just wait until the range indicator is lit and it would help in learning. Maybe in training or before rank 6, but not throughout the game as a whole. This game doesn't need to be made any easier.
Wed May 16, 2012 1:51 pm

BoltCrank Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 84 Steam Gamer Name: Bolt Crank	Re: Melee range In a podcast they did, (somewhere in the first half of it) they did acknowledge the weird delay in using melee, and stated that at some point (but no time given) it will be fixed. _________________ CoatedTrout wrote: Everything is always bad and I hate this game I play every day.
Wed May 16, 2012 2:45 pm

Alpherior Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:01 pm Posts: 266 Location: Ontario, Canada	Re: Melee range What I think, Lights: +10% melee damage +20% melee RoF +10% melee range Mediums: +20% melee damage -10% melee RoF +20% melee range Heavys: +40% melee damage -30% melee RoF +35% melee range _________________ Main Class: Brute (Devestator Spinfusor/Plasma Cannon/Extended Fractal/Safety Third/Potential Energy/Survival Pack)
Wed May 16, 2012 3:31 pm

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timeraider1

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 9:08 am
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Melee range

at beta, meleerange was perfect..especially at infiltrator..you had to be close, but still reasonable distance..armdistance..
but now... you first need to stick your arm in his back, hump against his leg and then u might be able to melee him.

atm melee is only usable against people who are afk..else theyll never die by the hands of an melee attack.

I think it might be good to review the usefullness of the meleeattack and either revamp it totally or change some figures

Wed May 16, 2012 7:51 am

Immie

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm
Posts: 1310

Re: Melee range

Strange. I'm pretty sure melee range has never been changed.

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Wed May 16, 2012 8:13 am

raqyee

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Re: Melee range

It's not about range it's about the delay which makes it really difficult. Range is fine I think.

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Wed May 16, 2012 8:15 am

DibbzTheLoner

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Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: Melee range

The range is fine - any more and it'll appear that you're telekinetically hitting people.
The standard delay coupled with latency is what makes it difficult to use.... still very possible to melee effectively if you can figure out the timings.

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Wed May 16, 2012 8:31 am

shazbeta

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:07 pm
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Re: Melee range

As others have beaten me to saying, the range is fine (and hasn't been changed by release, as far as I can tell), it's the odd delay that causes problems.

More info here - viewtopic.php?f=314&t=64210

Wed May 16, 2012 12:59 pm

timeraider1

Joined: Tue May 15, 2012 9:08 am
Posts: 11

Re: Melee range

ah thanks.. alot has been explained

Wed May 16, 2012 1:07 pm

DemoEvolved

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am
Posts: 2031

Re: Melee range

I am regularly chasing a heavy that is running in a straight line, and Im sure i can melee him, but when i strike, only the sonic punch wave hits him, dealing no damage, and then he turns around and shoots me.

Although I am loathe to make infils more powerful, I think they need an extra detection hitbox that sticks out like a rod while they are moving forwards. aka. like a shocklance.

Another option that might help would be some screen indicator when the victim WOULD be struck by a melee, then the player could just wait until the range indicator is lit and it would help in learning.

Wed May 16, 2012 1:18 pm

shazbeta

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:07 pm
Posts: 185

Re: Melee range

DemoEvolved wrote:

Yes, although I don't have Sonic Punch. Either nothing happens, or I hear the hit sound, but no damage is dealt. Again, more in depth info in the previous thread.

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Although I am loathe to make infils more powerful, I think they need an extra detection hitbox that sticks out like a rod while they are moving forwards. aka. like a shocklance.

There are lots of (arguably better) suggestions in the previous thread. I'm not certain that we need a new thread, when the previous is earlier, larger and has much more information already in it.

Quote:

Another option that might help would be some screen indicator when the victim WOULD be struck by a melee, then the player could just wait until the range indicator is lit and it would help in learning.

Maybe in training or before rank 6, but not throughout the game as a whole. This game doesn't need to be made any easier.

Wed May 16, 2012 1:51 pm

BoltCrank

Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:34 pm
Posts: 84
Steam Gamer Name: Bolt Crank

Re: Melee range

In a podcast they did, (somewhere in the first half of it) they did acknowledge the weird delay in using melee, and stated that at some point (but no time given) it will be fixed.

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Wed May 16, 2012 2:45 pm

Alpherior

Joined: Sat Jun 05, 2010 9:01 pm
Posts: 266
Location: Ontario, Canada

Re: Melee range

What I think,

Lights:
+10% melee damage
+20% melee RoF
+10% melee range

Mediums:
+20% melee damage
-10% melee RoF
+20% melee range

Heavys:
+40% melee damage
-30% melee RoF
+35% melee range

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Wed May 16, 2012 3:31 pm

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