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hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP HVFlateric wrote: So this faster thrusting technique is yet another blow to chasing really then isn't it? Not really. The only thing that turning around lets you do is get some upwards thrust even while already moving quickly, whereas otherwise the thrust pack wouldn't do any upwards thrust at that speed. I don't see it being too useful in actual gameplay. _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options.
Fri May 11, 2012 4:12 am

nasheruk Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:25 am Posts: 91	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Here is an example of the mortars in tribes 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHPhgTsVnM They have a MUCH smaller arc and travel very quick. More like a cannon. This is how they should be :/
Fri May 11, 2012 7:58 am

Sottilde Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:28 pm Posts: 159	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP I don't think any of the coders have any idea what a dot product is or how to do rudimentary physics calculations. This latest whiff on the thrust pack is more fuel to that fire, in addition to the monstrous jetpack gaffes. They need to get their act together, quick. This was acceptable back in alpha and early beta. I can't believe we made it to release with all these completely broken mechanics.
Fri May 11, 2012 9:59 am

ChaeEatWorld Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:47 pm Posts: 247	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Unfortunately, these are issues that have been brought up since Alpha and Hi-Rez seems blissfully unaware. That, or they are just completely disregarding what the community has almost unanimously complained about. Would a lot of these changes be slightly involved or even difficult to implement? Perhaps...but you would really show the community that you want your game to succeed. Here's what Hi-Rez (understandably) cares about: $ This is why they are more concerned with pushing new weapons and skins, than anything else. Buy your boosters and generate some income for this game. This is the entire point of business. Can't blame them for that. And yes, I know, if they were to make these changes, they could stand to make more money. Or not. Hi-Rez may see it differently. Either way...the physics aren't going to change. I hate to think that, but I truly believe that's the fact. They aren't going to change it. If they were, they would have done it in Alpha, or Beta...or open Beta. Ah well, it will be good for a while. _________________ Endless : In all versions of Tribes. Izzywar : In Smite. 'Any technique, however worthy and desirable, becomes a disease when the mind is obsessed with it.' - Bruce Lee
Fri May 11, 2012 10:42 am

Schottingham Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm Posts: 644	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP 32 second cap on crossfire, including setup. 7 second return. I appreciate emergent gameplay and all, but come on. Collisions in this game are seriously messed up. Those rock routes aren't even symmetric. _________________ - Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video) - Remove regen, bring back health kits - Buff explosive jumping - 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)
Fri May 11, 2012 12:51 pm

Jergling Beta Tester Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:12 pm Posts: 20	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP I ain't no goddam flyin' jellyfish, Hi-Rez! Gimme some thrust vectoring! (+1)
Sat May 12, 2012 8:53 pm

targetinglaser Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 3:30 pm Posts: 65	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Just adding myself to the long list of those in agreement with the OP's assessment (especially agree with all the stuff about the jetpack, it has absolutely pitiful lift compared to the jetpack I remember in T1).
Sat May 12, 2012 11:10 pm

DogmeatX Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am Posts: 1259	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Rock routes have been around for a while just not well publicised. It's a pity nobody from H-R chooses to respond to this thread and others of this ilk. Why not just come out and say things are working as intended, or this is being looked at/worked on... anything?
Sun May 13, 2012 1:02 am

Patan Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:02 pm Posts: 59	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP I dont know any game that has so much flaws and f* ups in the physics part. I guess by now there are quick fixes in the code fixing the problems that are caused by other quick fixes. Now you cant simply get from that point to proper physics. Thats almost impossible without changing way too much code (thats what I guess). So they should know they f* this up and at the same time there would be no money income from changing this. If I would be them I would keep silent too on this topic... and I would be embarrassed about such bad quality no matter if its f2p or not. d*** Hirez I want Tribes to be a good and successful game but from a players/customers perspective I somehow hope this fails misserably because I dont want to play more games of this kind in the future! It was a big mistake to give you my money up front for a beta. I really regret that.
Sun May 13, 2012 4:01 pm

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4888 Location: NA East	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP I feel like this should be playing all the time. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Mon May 14, 2012 3:06 am

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hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
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Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

HVFlateric wrote:

So this faster thrusting technique is yet another blow to chasing really then isn't it?

Not really. The only thing that turning around lets you do is get some upwards thrust even while already moving quickly, whereas otherwise the thrust pack wouldn't do any upwards thrust at that speed. I don't see it being too useful in actual gameplay.

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Fri May 11, 2012 4:12 am

nasheruk

Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:25 am
Posts: 91

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Here is an example of the mortars in tribes 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtHPhgTsVnM

They have a MUCH smaller arc and travel very quick. More like a cannon. This is how they should be :/

Fri May 11, 2012 7:58 am

Sottilde

Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:28 pm
Posts: 159

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

I don't think any of the coders have any idea what a dot product is or how to do rudimentary physics calculations.

This latest whiff on the thrust pack is more fuel to that fire, in addition to the monstrous jetpack gaffes.

They need to get their act together, quick. This was acceptable back in alpha and early beta. I can't believe we made it to release with all these completely broken mechanics.

Fri May 11, 2012 9:59 am

ChaeEatWorld

Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:47 pm
Posts: 247

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Unfortunately, these are issues that have been brought up since Alpha and Hi-Rez seems blissfully unaware. That, or they are just completely disregarding what the community has almost unanimously complained about.
Would a lot of these changes be slightly involved or even difficult to implement? Perhaps...but you would really show the community that you want your game to succeed.

Here's what Hi-Rez (understandably) cares about:
$

This is why they are more concerned with pushing new weapons and skins, than anything else. Buy your boosters and generate some income for this game. This is the entire point of business. Can't blame them for that. And yes, I know, if they were to make these changes, they could stand to make more money. Or not. Hi-Rez may see it differently.
Either way...the physics aren't going to change. I hate to think that, but I truly believe that's the fact. They aren't going to change it. If they were, they would have done it in Alpha, or Beta...or open Beta. Ah well, it will be good for a while.

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Endless : In all versions of Tribes.
Izzywar : In Smite.

'Any technique, however worthy and desirable, becomes a disease when the mind is obsessed with it.' - Bruce Lee

Fri May 11, 2012 10:42 am

Schottingham

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm
Posts: 644

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

32 second cap on crossfire, including setup. 7 second return.

I appreciate emergent gameplay and all, but come on. Collisions in this game are seriously messed up. Those rock routes aren't even symmetric.

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- Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video)
- Remove regen, bring back health kits
- Buff explosive jumping
- 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)

Fri May 11, 2012 12:51 pm

Jergling

Beta Tester

Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:12 pm
Posts: 20

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

I ain't no goddam flyin' jellyfish, Hi-Rez! Gimme some thrust vectoring!

(+1)

Sat May 12, 2012 8:53 pm

targetinglaser

Joined: Mon May 07, 2012 3:30 pm
Posts: 65

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Just adding myself to the long list of those in agreement with the OP's assessment (especially agree with all the stuff about the jetpack, it has absolutely pitiful lift compared to the jetpack I remember in T1).

Sat May 12, 2012 11:10 pm

DogmeatX

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am
Posts: 1259

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Rock routes have been around for a while just not well publicised. It's a pity nobody from H-R chooses to respond to this thread and others of this ilk. Why not just come out and say things are working as intended, or this is being looked at/worked on... anything?

Sun May 13, 2012 1:02 am

Patan

Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:02 pm
Posts: 59

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

I dont know any game that has so much flaws and f*** ups in the physics part. I guess by now there are quick fixes in the code fixing the problems that are caused by other quick fixes. Now you cant simply get from that point to proper physics. Thats almost impossible without changing way too much code (thats what I guess). So they should know they f*** this up and at the same time there would be no money income from changing this. If I would be them I would keep silent too on this topic... and I would be embarrassed about such bad quality no matter if its f2p or not.

d*** Hirez I want Tribes to be a good and successful game but from a players/customers perspective I somehow hope this fails misserably because I dont want to play more games of this kind in the future! It was a big mistake to give you my money up front for a beta. I really regret that.

Sun May 13, 2012 4:01 pm

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
Posts: 4888
Location: NA East

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

I feel like this should be playing all the time.

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Mon May 14, 2012 3:06 am

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