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blecro Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:09 pm Posts: 192	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP blecro wrote: The following [grenades] still use the old fish patch 0% to 100% cosine inheritance. The rest use flat inheritance. [...] This isn't entirely correct. The grenades I listed are definitely close to a 0% to 100% spread, but the rest aren't necessarily flat. For example, when the fish patch arrived on December 15, 2011 and we could still peek at values with the console, nitrons used a 20% to 60% spread. This could still be the case, but it's difficult to measure. Speaking of which, my old "Inheritance Compendium" thread that described the inheritance at that time doesn't exist anymore. Hmm.
Sun May 06, 2012 12:36 pm

ctrl-k Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:48 am Posts: 89	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP There's a lot of talk of this or that weapon being overpowered, but what I think is really sad, is that none of the very valid points made in this thread have been addressed. As it comes to physics, the game is an inconsistent mess and a lot of these things would surely be pretty straightforward to fix.
Mon May 07, 2012 3:07 am

Nedarb Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:21 pm Posts: 65	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP +1 to the OP again. After roughly 60-ish hours of playtime, I still agree with the original post. While the Heavy walking-speed has been addressed (as well as the artillery ballistics to a small degree), the remaining issues cannot be ignored. My interest in T:A is slowly but surely dropping. Usually I'll log-in and play just enough to get my FWoTD bonus and then either log-out or mess around on a Free Shrikes server for a few matches while wondering when the next patch will be released. Proper physics, disc-jumping, jet-pack energy pool/regen and the addition of an inheritance server variable should all be addressed asap.
Mon May 07, 2012 1:52 pm

HVFlateric Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:36 am Posts: 734	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP I encourage every to go to this thread and vote. It was started by a community representative, perhaps may mean more to HR. Tones of votes and pretty clearly shows the general opinion of the community on autos, BUT will HR listen? _________________ (Former Admin on Houston Vehicles & Miami Vehicles)
Mon May 07, 2012 9:44 pm

asbobaslop Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:49 pm Posts: 7	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Quite an interesting read.
Tue May 08, 2012 12:58 am

mipegg Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:59 pm Posts: 442	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP As ever, zero response from hirez on a critical topic written in a well rounded and informative way with massive community support. Come on guys, a 'were working on it' or 'we couldnt carel ess' woouldnt be that hard would it?
Tue May 08, 2012 11:52 am

SuckyJack Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:14 am Posts: 79	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Considering how old this post is, how much of the physics problems remain true? Like, jumping on a slope? _________________ Removing Hitscan =/= Removing Hitscan Weapons Bring The Buck Below Light Speed
Tue May 08, 2012 12:37 pm

upfish Joined: Tue May 08, 2012 1:10 pm Posts: 2	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Hi guys, signed up on this forum just to discuss this issue - and lo, there's a 67 page thread about it. I agree with everything the original poster wrote - especially the parts about accidentally walking off a ledge and having no chance to recover. I don't see why that happens, gravity apparently isn't very strong ANYWAY, so how come these guys can't make a jetpack that boosts harder than diet coke shooting out of a mentos-infused 2-liter bottle?
Tue May 08, 2012 1:51 pm

PinkLemonade Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:23 am Posts: 102	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP can any of our knowledgeable posters confirm (or disproof) whether the physics have been tweaked?
Tue May 08, 2012 9:50 pm

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4849 Location: NA East	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP upfish wrote: Hi guys, signed up on this forum just to discuss this issue - and lo, there's a 67 page thread about it. Exactly. Anyone who actually pays close enough attention to the physics will notice it's bad, and anyone who just plays because it's free, won't care either which way. I say, even if the forums are a minority, they obviously care enough to sign on and post, where by which the rest don't, and hence won't effect your player base. The forum majority being a player minority is a garbage argument, until you make changes to cater to said vocal majority, and the actually majority then signs up for the forums to combat said changes. It's like saying a majority of Americans would have preferred a different President, but the vocal majority voted this one in. Guess what? You should have voted. You'll know better next time. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Wed May 09, 2012 5:35 am

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blecro

Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:09 pm
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Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

blecro wrote:

The following [grenades] still use the old fish patch 0% to 100% cosine inheritance. The rest use flat inheritance. [...]

This isn't entirely correct. The grenades I listed are definitely close to a 0% to 100% spread, but the rest aren't necessarily flat. For example, when the fish patch arrived on December 15, 2011 and we could still peek at values with the console, nitrons used a 20% to 60% spread. This could still be the case, but it's difficult to measure. Speaking of which, my old "Inheritance Compendium" thread that described the inheritance at that time doesn't exist anymore. Hmm.

Sun May 06, 2012 12:36 pm

ctrl-k

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:48 am
Posts: 89

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

There's a lot of talk of this or that weapon being overpowered, but what I think is really sad, is that none of the very valid points made in this thread have been addressed. As it comes to physics, the game is an inconsistent mess and a lot of these things would surely be pretty straightforward to fix.

Mon May 07, 2012 3:07 am

Nedarb

Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:21 pm
Posts: 65

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

+1 to the OP again.

After roughly 60-ish hours of playtime, I still agree with the original post. While the Heavy walking-speed has been addressed (as well as the artillery ballistics to a small degree), the remaining issues cannot be ignored.

My interest in T:A is slowly but surely dropping. Usually I'll log-in and play just enough to get my FWoTD bonus and then either log-out or mess around on a Free Shrikes server for a few matches while wondering when the next patch will be released.

Proper physics, disc-jumping, jet-pack energy pool/regen and the addition of an inheritance server variable should all be addressed asap.

Mon May 07, 2012 1:52 pm

HVFlateric

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:36 am
Posts: 734

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

I encourage every to go to this thread and vote. It was started by a community representative, perhaps may mean more to HR.

Tones of votes and pretty clearly shows the general opinion of the community on autos, BUT will HR listen?

_________________
(Former Admin on Houston Vehicles & Miami Vehicles)

Mon May 07, 2012 9:44 pm

asbobaslop

Joined: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:49 pm
Posts: 7

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Quite an interesting read.

Tue May 08, 2012 12:58 am

mipegg

Joined: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:59 pm
Posts: 442

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

As ever, zero response from hirez on a critical topic written in a well rounded and informative way with massive community support. Come on guys, a 'were working on it' or 'we couldnt carel ess' woouldnt be that hard would it?

Tue May 08, 2012 11:52 am

SuckyJack

Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:14 am
Posts: 79

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Considering how old this post is, how much of the physics problems remain true? Like, jumping on a slope?

_________________
Removing Hitscan =/= Removing Hitscan Weapons
Bring The Buck Below Light Speed

Tue May 08, 2012 12:37 pm

upfish

Joined: Tue May 08, 2012 1:10 pm
Posts: 2

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Hi guys, signed up on this forum just to discuss this issue - and lo, there's a 67 page thread about it. I agree with everything the original poster wrote - especially the parts about accidentally walking off a ledge and having no chance to recover. I don't see why that happens, gravity apparently isn't very strong ANYWAY, so how come these guys can't make a jetpack that boosts harder than diet coke shooting out of a mentos-infused 2-liter bottle?

Tue May 08, 2012 1:51 pm

PinkLemonade

Joined: Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:23 am
Posts: 102

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

can any of our knowledgeable posters confirm (or disproof) whether the physics have been tweaked?

Tue May 08, 2012 9:50 pm

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
Posts: 4849
Location: NA East

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

upfish wrote:

Hi guys, signed up on this forum just to discuss this issue - and lo, there's a 67 page thread about it.

Exactly. Anyone who actually pays close enough attention to the physics will notice it's bad, and anyone who just plays because it's free, won't care either which way.

I say, even if the forums are a minority, they obviously care enough to sign on and post, where by which the rest don't, and hence won't effect your player base.

The forum majority being a player minority is a garbage argument, until you make changes to cater to said vocal majority, and the actually majority then signs up for the forums to combat said changes.

It's like saying a majority of Americans would have preferred a different President, but the vocal majority voted this one in. Guess what? You should have voted. You'll know better next time.

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Wed May 09, 2012 5:35 am

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