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caaok Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:55 pm Posts: 1110	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... That's because the new generation of FPS kiddies demands instant gratification. Every map except for Raindance and Sunstar are designed specifically with an easy back-to-front route in place. The flag is placed off-centre on Temple Ruins specifically to facilitate these routes. People cry when the flag is too hard to grab, because then it introduces too much of a barrier for noobs. I'm starting to think we'll never see an indoor flag map. _________________ What we lose with hitscan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XevsFIitY
Sat May 05, 2012 1:04 pm

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4876 Location: NA East	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... caaok wrote: That's because the new generation of FPS kiddies demands instant gratification. Oh man if only people knew how much bearing this has had on Ascend. I thought I saw Kate say we'd see an indoor map, but I may have seen a quote taken out of context, like it was posted about an arena map... not sure. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Sun May 06, 2012 6:42 am

Cyberlink Community Agent Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm Posts: 3064 Location: Dallas, TX USA Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview. "People thought the game was too hard.." And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important. _________________ I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates. Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148
Sun May 06, 2012 1:59 pm

disci Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Winland	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... Cyberlink wrote: Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview. "People thought the game was too hard.." And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important. How does he even know what people thought? s* tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s* right there.
Sun May 06, 2012 4:40 pm

shazbeta Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:07 pm Posts: 185	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... I read the first 5 or 6 pages. OP - I don't get it. Your screenshot shows (presumeably) the first match you played, which was over in a few minutes. What happened in the next 10 matches when his unstoppable force met your immovable object? -AEnubis- wrote: I thought I saw Kate say we'd see an indoor map, but I may have seen a quote taken out of context, like it was posted about an arena map... not sure. She has definitely said it about Arena maps, but we haven't even got those yet.
Sun May 06, 2012 7:47 pm

Cyberlink Community Agent Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm Posts: 3064 Location: Dallas, TX USA Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... disci wrote: Cyberlink wrote: Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview. "People thought the game was too hard.." And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important. How does he even know what people thought? s* tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s* right there. And this is why the forums have earned the silence for the "why's" from the dev team. I believe the title says "Tribes: Ascend and not "Starsiege Tribes, or Tribes 2". _________________ I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates. Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148
Sun May 06, 2012 8:16 pm

Durzaka Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:42 pm Posts: 1276	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... probably not the first to mention this, but the OP got 8 flag defender accolades as well as rampage and relentless. Sounds like he stopped a lot of capping attempts by himself. If he hadn't been there, chances are a turtle would have occurred with both teams holding the flag. I see no problem with the picture he posted.
Sun May 06, 2012 8:25 pm

irimi Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:37 am Posts: 478	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... Durzaka wrote: I see no problem with the picture he posted. Nobody else does, really.
Sun May 06, 2012 11:03 pm

disci Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Winland	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... Cyberlink wrote: disci wrote: Cyberlink wrote: Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview. "People thought the game was too hard.." And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important. How does he even know what people thought? s* tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s* right there. And this is why the forums have earned the silence for the "why's" from the dev team. I believe the title says "Tribes: Ascend and not "Starsiege Tribes, or Tribes 2". Yeah and saying the game was too hard just proves that they don't have trust on their players to even try to get better and rather make the game Tribes: Farmville. What a pile of bull s***. Wider audience? How about reaching a playerbase which sticks to the game and brings in money?
Mon May 07, 2012 3:12 am

ArchangelXv1 Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:05 pm Posts: 1600 Location: Oahu,Hawaii	Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF... Cyberlink wrote: disci wrote: Cyberlink wrote: Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview. "People thought the game was too hard.." And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important. How does he even know what people thought? s* tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s* right there. And this is why the forums have earned the silence for the "why's" from the dev team. I believe the title says "Tribes: Ascend and not "Starsiege Tribes, or Tribes 2". Oh that's not an excuse, Cyber. This forum has never had a huge stream of back and forth from the devs and you know it. Sure, the odd quip back and forth, but even since Alpha there hasn't been much in-depth discussion of ANY of the game from them. They're taking a loved franchise and changing it. They should expect people to get riled up about it occasionally and take it for it's base content. _________________ Communication is a very worthy thing. Fool's Epic T1 Movie
Mon May 07, 2012 4:07 am

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caaok

Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:55 pm
Posts: 1110

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

That's because the new generation of FPS kiddies demands instant gratification. Every map except for Raindance and Sunstar are designed specifically with an easy back-to-front route in place. The flag is placed off-centre on Temple Ruins specifically to facilitate these routes.

People cry when the flag is too hard to grab, because then it introduces too much of a barrier for noobs. I'm starting to think we'll never see an indoor flag map.

_________________
What we lose with hitscan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7XevsFIitY

Sat May 05, 2012 1:04 pm

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
Posts: 4876
Location: NA East

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

caaok wrote:

That's because the new generation of FPS kiddies demands instant gratification.

Oh man if only people knew how much bearing this has had on Ascend.

I thought I saw Kate say we'd see an indoor map, but I may have seen a quote taken out of context, like it was posted about an arena map... not sure.

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Sun May 06, 2012 6:42 am

Cyberlink

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Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview.

"People thought the game was too hard.."

And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important.

_________________

I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates.

Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket

Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148

Sun May 06, 2012 1:59 pm

disci

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Winland

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

Cyberlink wrote:

Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview.

"People thought the game was too hard.."

And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important.

How does he even know what people thought? s*** tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s*** right there.

Sun May 06, 2012 4:40 pm

shazbeta

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:07 pm
Posts: 185

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

I read the first 5 or 6 pages.

OP - I don't get it. Your screenshot shows (presumeably) the first match you played, which was over in a few minutes.

What happened in the next 10 matches when his unstoppable force met your immovable object?

-AEnubis- wrote:

I thought I saw Kate say we'd see an indoor map, but I may have seen a quote taken out of context, like it was posted about an arena map... not sure.

She has definitely said it about Arena maps, but we haven't even got those yet.

Sun May 06, 2012 7:47 pm

Cyberlink

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Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm
Posts: 3064
Location: Dallas, TX USA
Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

disci wrote:

Cyberlink wrote:

Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview.

"People thought the game was too hard.."

And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important.

How does he even know what people thought? s*** tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s*** right there.

And this is why the forums have earned the silence for the "why's" from the dev team.
I believe the title says "Tribes: Ascend and not "Starsiege Tribes, or Tribes 2".

Sun May 06, 2012 8:16 pm

Durzaka

Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:42 pm
Posts: 1276

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

probably not the first to mention this, but the OP got 8 flag defender accolades as well as rampage and relentless.

Sounds like he stopped a lot of capping attempts by himself. If he hadn't been there, chances are a turtle would have occurred with both teams holding the flag.

I see no problem with the picture he posted.

Sun May 06, 2012 8:25 pm

irimi

Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:37 am
Posts: 478

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

Durzaka wrote:

I see no problem with the picture he posted.

Nobody else does, really.

Sun May 06, 2012 11:03 pm

disci

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Winland

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

Cyberlink wrote:

disci wrote:

Cyberlink wrote:

Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview.

"People thought the game was too hard.."

And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important.

How does he even know what people thought? s*** tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s*** right there.

And this is why the forums have earned the silence for the "why's" from the dev team.
I believe the title says "Tribes: Ascend and not "Starsiege Tribes, or Tribes 2".

Yeah and saying the game was too hard just proves that they don't have trust on their players to even try to get better and rather make the game Tribes: Farmville. What a pile of bull s***. Wider audience? How about reaching a playerbase which sticks to the game and brings in money?

Mon May 07, 2012 3:12 am

ArchangelXv1

Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:05 pm
Posts: 1600
Location: Oahu,Hawaii

Re: Starting to absolutely loathe CTF...

Cyberlink wrote:

disci wrote:

Cyberlink wrote:

Todd actually brought up this fact in an interview.

"People thought the game was too hard.."

And now you have what is Tribes:Ascend. Reaching a wider audience is more important.

How does he even know what people thought? s*** tons of people played both T1 and T2. That is just big pile of bull s*** right there.

And this is why the forums have earned the silence for the "why's" from the dev team.
I believe the title says "Tribes: Ascend and not "Starsiege Tribes, or Tribes 2".

Oh that's not an excuse, Cyber. This forum has never had a huge stream of back and forth from the devs and you know it. Sure, the odd quip back and forth, but even since Alpha there hasn't been much in-depth discussion of ANY of the game from them.

They're taking a loved franchise and changing it. They should expect people to get riled up about it occasionally and take it for it's base content.

_________________
Communication is a very worthy thing.

Fool's Epic T1 Movie

Mon May 07, 2012 4:07 am

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