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fubbymaster Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:21 pm Posts: 337	Removethe saber. Remove it. Replace it. Seriously shrike needs a way to fight back the AA, but not an easy way ATM shrikes can only run, and then there is the fact saber takes no skill. Ive played another game, where there were AA turrets you could get in and control, But they could not shoot straight up, so you had to get right above them, then nosedive while shooting, The counter to shrikes needs to work, and shrikes need to be able to do something about it
Wed May 02, 2012 10:46 am

miniKAD Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:03 am Posts: 546 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: miniKAD	Re: Removethe saber. fubbymaster wrote: Remove it. Replace it. Seriously shrike needs a way to fight back the AA, but not an easy way ATM shrikes can only run, and then there is the fact saber takes no skill. Ive played another game, where there were AA turrets you could get in and control, But they could not shoot straight up, so you had to get right above them, then nosedive while shooting, The counter to shrikes needs to work, and shrikes need to be able to do something about it Seriously? it is unbelievably easy to avoid Sabre missiles in the Shrike, You can run, or try to shoot the missile down, all you have to do is hide behind a building or some terrain for 5 seconds.... Honestly I couldn't fully understand your post, you were either saying it is too easy, or too hard to evade missiles, can you clear that up please? _________________ Sentinels: A guide to placing your Claymores: viewtopic.php?f=234&t=80784 (I know, something that you'd think would be obvious, yet so many people have trouble with it). Finally back after several months off
Wed May 02, 2012 10:54 am

Elysiume Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm Posts: 1058	Re: Removethe saber. I'd say remove because it just isn't fun. It's a skill-less weapon. It's just bad design and should either be replaced with a fly-by-wire/TV-rocket or removed altogether. _________________ 100% inheritance is something the game needs. Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.
Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 am

TeibL Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:58 pm Posts: 7	Re: Removethe saber. This is not a flight sim. And seriously, there are indeed people who know howto counter these slow and stupid rockets. Shikes can be as annoying as snipers if well played. The saber launcher is one of the many weapons which feel odd, they are indeed good versus noob shrike drivers and solo tank drivers who dont use the F2 key, but they are totally worthless against pathfinders. I would like to control them manually or make the aim harder but the missiles faster.
Wed May 02, 2012 11:02 am

Catsponge Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:32 pm Posts: 66	Re: Removethe saber. Keep- it can be a laugh at times. Needs better missiles though.
Wed May 02, 2012 12:07 pm

Yetskii Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:34 am Posts: 754	Re: Removethe saber. I shoot more shrikes down with my LAR or Chaingun than I do with my Sabre
Wed May 02, 2012 12:10 pm

Sabertoothpuppy Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:03 pm Posts: 575	Re: Removethe saber. It might be a weapon not requiring any skill to fire, but what about the "skill" of the guy that actually dies to it when there's no interference? It's more for trolling people without aim or access to movement keys than anything else imo. I'm all for replacing it by something actually useful on relevant targets.
Wed May 02, 2012 12:14 pm

Thundertactics Beta Tester Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:34 am Posts: 661 Location: The Netherlands	Re: Removethe saber. Elysiume wrote: I'd say remove because it just isn't fun. It's a skill-less weapon. It's just bad design and should either be replaced with a fly-by-wire/TV-rocket or removed altogether. This I'll agree with. It's not fun to use. And it's not fun to be targeted by. The second they'll offer a reasonable replacement, it's going in the bin for everyone. _________________ It's a great sig™
Wed May 02, 2012 12:58 pm

TheGoden Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:19 pm Posts: 12	Re: Removethe saber. 100% agree. Either give vehicles the proper countermeasures (and stop the sabers from turning 360 degrees in 0.5 nanoseconds) or remove sabers completely. All it takes is 1 or 2 doombringers on one team and you've pretty much shut down the entire airpsace for your enemy.
Wed May 02, 2012 1:55 pm

Yetskii Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:34 am Posts: 754	Re: Removethe saber. Thundertactics wrote: Elysiume wrote: I'd say remove because it just isn't fun. It's a skill-less weapon. It's just bad design and should either be replaced with a fly-by-wire/TV-rocket or removed altogether. This I'll agree with. It's not fun to use. And it's not fun to be targeted by. The second they'll offer a reasonable replacement, it's going in the bin for everyone. Problem with fly by wire is that you are imobile forced to stand utterly still while piloting a rocket...easy prey to anything pretty much, with no way to even attempt to dodge/jet etc...sitting duck while firing and chasing a shrike...
Wed May 02, 2012 2:15 pm

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fubbymaster

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:21 pm
Posts: 337

Removethe saber.

Remove it.
Replace it.

Seriously shrike needs a way to fight back the AA, but not an easy way ATM shrikes can only run, and then there is the fact saber takes no skill.

Ive played another game, where there were AA turrets you could get in and control, But they could not shoot straight up, so you had to get right above them, then nosedive while shooting, The counter to shrikes needs to work, and shrikes need to be able to do something about it

Wed May 02, 2012 10:46 am

miniKAD

Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:03 am
Posts: 546
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: miniKAD

Re: Removethe saber.

fubbymaster wrote:

Seriously? it is unbelievably easy to avoid Sabre missiles in the Shrike,
You can run, or try to shoot the missile down, all you have to do is hide behind a building or some terrain for 5 seconds....

Honestly I couldn't fully understand your post, you were either saying it is too easy, or too hard to evade missiles, can you clear that up please?

_________________
Sentinels: A guide to placing your Claymores: viewtopic.php?f=234&t=80784
(I know, something that you'd think would be obvious, yet so many people have trouble with it).
Finally back after several months off

Wed May 02, 2012 10:54 am

Elysiume

Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm
Posts: 1058

Re: Removethe saber.

I'd say remove because it just isn't fun. It's a skill-less weapon. It's just bad design and should either be replaced with a fly-by-wire/TV-rocket or removed altogether.

_________________
100% inheritance is something the game needs.
Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.

Wed May 02, 2012 10:55 am

TeibL

Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:58 pm
Posts: 7

Re: Removethe saber.

This is not a flight sim. And seriously, there are indeed people who know howto counter these slow and stupid rockets. Shikes can be as annoying as snipers if well played.

The saber launcher is one of the many weapons which feel odd, they are indeed good versus noob shrike drivers and solo tank drivers who dont use the F2 key, but they are totally worthless against pathfinders. I would like to control them manually or make the aim harder but the missiles faster.

Wed May 02, 2012 11:02 am

Catsponge

Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:32 pm
Posts: 66

Re: Removethe saber.

Keep- it can be a laugh at times.
Needs better missiles though.

Wed May 02, 2012 12:07 pm

Yetskii

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:34 am
Posts: 754

Re: Removethe saber.

I shoot more shrikes down with my LAR or Chaingun than I do with my Sabre

Wed May 02, 2012 12:10 pm

Sabertoothpuppy

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:03 pm
Posts: 575

Re: Removethe saber.

It might be a weapon not requiring any skill to fire, but what about the "skill" of the guy that actually dies to it when there's no interference?
It's more for trolling people without aim or access to movement keys than anything else imo. I'm all for replacing it by something actually useful on relevant targets.

Wed May 02, 2012 12:14 pm

Thundertactics

Beta Tester

Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:34 am
Posts: 661
Location: The Netherlands

Re: Removethe saber.

Elysiume wrote:

I'd say remove because it just isn't fun. It's a skill-less weapon. It's just bad design and should either be replaced with a fly-by-wire/TV-rocket or removed altogether.

This I'll agree with.
It's not fun to use. And it's not fun to be targeted by.
The second they'll offer a reasonable replacement, it's going in the bin for everyone.

_________________
It's a great sig™

Wed May 02, 2012 12:58 pm

TheGoden

Joined: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:19 pm
Posts: 12

Re: Removethe saber.

100% agree.

Either give vehicles the proper countermeasures (and stop the sabers from turning 360 degrees in 0.5 nanoseconds) or remove sabers completely.

All it takes is 1 or 2 doombringers on one team and you've pretty much shut down the entire airpsace for your enemy.

Wed May 02, 2012 1:55 pm

Yetskii

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 7:34 am
Posts: 754

Re: Removethe saber.

Thundertactics wrote:

Elysiume wrote:

I'd say remove because it just isn't fun. It's a skill-less weapon. It's just bad design and should either be replaced with a fly-by-wire/TV-rocket or removed altogether.

This I'll agree with.
It's not fun to use. And it's not fun to be targeted by.
The second they'll offer a reasonable replacement, it's going in the bin for everyone.

Problem with fly by wire is that you are imobile forced to stand utterly still while piloting a rocket...easy prey to anything pretty much, with no way to even attempt to dodge/jet etc...sitting duck while firing and chasing a shrike...

Wed May 02, 2012 2:15 pm

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