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blecro Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:09 pm Posts: 192	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP PinkLemonade wrote: RootbeerAlamode wrote: Also I am fairly certain that this patch has made gravity just teeniest bit weaker This is my feeling as well. Just measured in Pathfinder and got 63.88kph/s under 185kph and 24.64kph/s over 185kph. No change.
Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:08 am

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP blecro wrote: PinkLemonade wrote: RootbeerAlamode wrote: Also I am fairly certain that this patch has made gravity just teeniest bit weaker This is my feeling as well. Just measured in Pathfinder and got 63.88kph/s under 185kph and 24.64kph/s over 185kph. No change. Odd, one route in particular has become quite strange on this patch. I have a real hard time catching the backside of this slope, where before it were easy. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:32 pm

hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Trilandian wrote: blecro wrote: adjust the jet direction upward as the scalar projection of the velocity onto the horizontal jet direction increases Umm... you lost me there. I have no understanding of anything more complex than college economic-level calculus. "Try to jet in a direction when you're already traveling that way quickly, and it'll have more of a rising effect than a speed-you-up effect." _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options. Last edited by hvcterr on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:59 pm

SickSpider Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:41 am Posts: 362 Location: BC, Canada	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP blecro wrote: I made a video on how to harness the quirky jetting from standstill: (http://youtu.be/bE5ZQunsht8) Played last night.. found myself spinning endlessly just to gain more jet power... I woke up with a headache! _________________ You want your flag back!? GO GET IT! I prefer to try a MAD and miss than pulling a strike and succeed! Sick montages(!) Weekly/Monthly BPS fun (blushing)
Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:00 pm

Trilandian Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm Posts: 485	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP hvcterr wrote: Trilandian wrote: blecro wrote: adjust the jet direction upward as the scalar projection of the velocity onto the horizontal jet direction increases Umm... you lost me there. I have no understanding of anything more complex than college economic-level calculus. "The faster you are already going in the same horizontal direction that you are jetting, the more of the jet-strength is actually diverted to making you move upwards." Ok, makes sense. _________________ Thump... BOOM --- My Contributions Intelligent Turret Placement Management tools --- Important Topics Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC
Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:02 pm

Sottilde Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:28 pm Posts: 159	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP -AEnubis- wrote: As to making it it's own thread I posted that video in the bug section for kicks. Feel free to contribute. viewtopic.php?f=314&t=69252 @Sottilde - So your saying that Rootbeer's assessment of our anti-grav backpacks isn't just accurate jest, but it is literally how they are coded? LMAO It certainly seems that way, at least over the 72km/h cap. Removing the 72km/h cap and replacing it with the cap in T1/T2 (forward jetting over a certain speed is converted into upward jetting) would do a lot, but nothing short of a complete overhaul will fix the majority of these bugs.
Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:18 pm

Trilandian Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm Posts: 485	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Why do people keep talking about speed caps? Wouldn't the implementation of an air-resistand model be both more realistic and more intuitive? _________________ Thump... BOOM --- My Contributions Intelligent Turret Placement Management tools --- Important Topics Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC
Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:22 pm

IronKane Beta Tester Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:07 pm Posts: 497	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP Trilandian wrote: Why do people keep talking about speed caps? Wouldn't the implementation of an air-resistand model be both more realistic and more intuitive? Because speed capping is all about how bad a$$ you are and not how good your team is. Haven't you been reading???
Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:29 pm

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4888 Location: NA East	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP The "jet" key now automatically "jump/jets" in online games. That could have something to do with this. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:53 pm

Trilandian Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm Posts: 485	Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP IronKane wrote: Trilandian wrote: Why do people keep talking about speed caps? Wouldn't the implementation of an air-resistand model be both more realistic and more intuitive? Because speed capping is all about how bad a$$ you are and not how good your team is. Haven't you been reading??? I'm not sure we understand each other. "Cap", in the way I've referred to it, implies "limitation", not "flag capture". _________________ Thump... BOOM --- My Contributions Intelligent Turret Placement Management tools --- Important Topics Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC
Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:14 pm

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blecro

Joined: Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:09 pm
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Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

PinkLemonade wrote:

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

Also I am fairly certain that this patch has made gravity just teeniest bit weaker

This is my feeling as well.

Just measured in Pathfinder and got 63.88kph/s under 185kph and 24.64kph/s over 185kph. No change.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:08 am

RootbeerAlamode

Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm
Posts: 1538
Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

blecro wrote:

PinkLemonade wrote:

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

Also I am fairly certain that this patch has made gravity just teeniest bit weaker

This is my feeling as well.

Just measured in Pathfinder and got 63.88kph/s under 185kph and 24.64kph/s over 185kph. No change.

Odd, one route in particular has become quite strange on this patch. I have a real hard time catching the backside of this slope, where before it were easy.

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Thu Apr 26, 2012 1:32 pm

hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
Posts: 1567

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Trilandian wrote:

blecro wrote:

adjust the jet direction upward as the scalar projection of the velocity onto the horizontal jet direction increases

Umm... you lost me there. I have no understanding of anything more complex than college economic-level calculus.

"Try to jet in a direction when you're already traveling that way quickly, and it'll have more of a rising effect than a speed-you-up effect."

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Last edited by hvcterr on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:59 pm

SickSpider

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:41 am
Posts: 362
Location: BC, Canada

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

blecro wrote:

I made a video on how to harness the quirky jetting from standstill:

(http://youtu.be/bE5ZQunsht8)

Played last night.. found myself spinning endlessly just to gain more jet power...
I woke up with a headache!

_________________
You want your flag back!? GO GET IT!
I prefer to try a MAD and miss than pulling a strike and succeed!

Sick montages(!)
Weekly/Monthly BPS fun (blushing)

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:00 pm

Trilandian

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm
Posts: 485

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

hvcterr wrote:

Trilandian wrote:

blecro wrote:

adjust the jet direction upward as the scalar projection of the velocity onto the horizontal jet direction increases

Umm... you lost me there. I have no understanding of anything more complex than college economic-level calculus.

"The faster you are already going in the same horizontal direction that you are jetting, the more of the jet-strength is actually diverted to making you move upwards."

Ok, makes sense.

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Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF
Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT
Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT
Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC

Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:02 pm

Sottilde

Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2010 7:28 pm
Posts: 159

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

-AEnubis- wrote:

As to making it it's own thread I posted that video in the bug section for kicks. Feel free to contribute.

viewtopic.php?f=314&t=69252

@Sottilde - So your saying that Rootbeer's assessment of our anti-grav backpacks isn't just accurate jest, but it is literally how they are coded?

LMAO

It certainly seems that way, at least over the 72km/h cap.

Removing the 72km/h cap and replacing it with the cap in T1/T2 (forward jetting over a certain speed is converted into upward jetting) would do a lot, but nothing short of a complete overhaul will fix the majority of these bugs.

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:18 pm

Trilandian

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm
Posts: 485

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Why do people keep talking about speed caps? Wouldn't the implementation of an air-resistand model be both more realistic and more intuitive?

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:22 pm

IronKane

Beta Tester

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:07 pm
Posts: 497

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

Trilandian wrote:

Why do people keep talking about speed caps? Wouldn't the implementation of an air-resistand model be both more realistic and more intuitive?

Because speed capping is all about how bad a$$ you are and not how good your team is. Haven't you been reading???

Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:29 pm

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
Posts: 4888
Location: NA East

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

The "jet" key now automatically "jump/jets" in online games. That could have something to do with this.

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Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:53 pm

Trilandian

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm
Posts: 485

Re: please address the many CORE PHYSICS ISSUES ASAP

IronKane wrote:

Trilandian wrote:

Why do people keep talking about speed caps? Wouldn't the implementation of an air-resistand model be both more realistic and more intuitive?

Because speed capping is all about how bad a$$ you are and not how good your team is. Haven't you been reading???

I'm not sure we understand each other. "Cap", in the way I've referred to it, implies "limitation", not "flag capture".

Thu Apr 26, 2012 7:14 pm

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