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ZProtoss Alpha Tester Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm Posts: 427	Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. It wasn't documented in the main page notes, however it was included in the actual patch itself. Quote: *Fixed an issue where Raiders could potentially die to non-Raiders When the Jackal first came out, the running joke for top competition players (when trolling with the weapon) was that it auto detonated when close to people mid-air. It was that easy to use. The Plasma Gun is so absurdly powerful, it actually takes the joke about the pre-nerf jackal and turns it into reality. The projectile size is so ridiculously large, that it's actually easy to have games where people get anywhere from 30-50 airmails. The projectile hitbox size needs to be cut in half if not more. It's currently the most absurd weapon I've ever seen in T:A, and that includes the 150 damage+ NJ4 from back in alpha/early beta. Good lord.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:58 am

ellbee Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:57 am Posts: 135	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. 2 1/2 rounds of arena, 50 airmails, gg. thing is a joke and broken and bart i told you this last night :[ reduce projectile speed, fix f*** up radius, ty _________________ L B
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:00 am

leadingrunner Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:11 am Posts: 9 Steam Gamer Name: [RH]leading	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. I was expecting this to be the case just watching the patch video.... _________________
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Rymsky Joined: Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:53 pm Posts: 3	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. +1
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Arcadizz1e Beta Tester Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:19 am Posts: 79	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. in theory the weapon should be fine but the projectile radius and splash radius are just absurd, the fact that literally 50% of the time the projectile will miss the target by several feet and yet deal full damage highlights this. fix the radius and while it will be strong it won't be a clear upgrade from gren/arx i think it is important to remember though that you lose the ability to grenade jump and that the nj4 is actually going to kill things faster. if the weapon was included in comp play, after a short honeymoon i don't see many raider O players opting to use it over the gren _________________
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 am

Mono Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:57 am Posts: 39	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. It'll get changed eventually, HR seem to be following the RIOT school of game design to a f*** tea. #1 Release absurd stuff on a reliable schedule. #2 Nerf said absurd stuff soon after so people want more of #1 #3 Throw loads of money at sponsors to get game recognised as an "e-sport" when there are serious glaring issues anyways. #4 Repeat 1# and #2 until coffers overflow #5 Laugh all the way to the bank as the uneducated masses scream your product is the best thing since sliced bread. _________________ HiRezKate wrote: Your frustration and tears feed my creativity.<3
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 am

player3 Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:55 pm Posts: 81	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. ABSURD
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MoonshineFox Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:11 pm Posts: 297	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. Jackal released in stupid OP mode. Nerfed within days. Give it a rest, it'll be nerfed. _________________ DuckBlitz wrote: Breaking news: Good Players Still Good -- more of today's headlines: Aiming OP? Totally! // Lights Squishy, How!? // Enemies In My Genroom? It's More Likely Than You Think // New Stuff Popular, Who Would've Thought?
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:06 am

ZProtoss Alpha Tester Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm Posts: 427	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. MoonshineFox wrote: Jackal released in stupid OP mode. Nerfed within days. Give it a rest, it'll be nerfed. Jackal is still stupid OP actually. It just went from OMGWTFBBQ OP, to never allowed in competition because it still breaks the game OP. The fact that it can insta gib mediums out of stealth makes it an enormously stupid weapon. Plasma gun is in a league of its own though. New uncharted levels of broken.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:09 am

Doenerkalle Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:25 am Posts: 63	Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE. +1 OP. needs to be nerfed (in lets say 3-4 days when enough players have spend gold on it). arena servers full of plasma raiders. i think it's nice to see that hirez is actually earning some money with these regular patches. at least it means that they will support this game for some time in the future. one day, when the community shrinks, player numbers are falling, they will play their last joker card to force everybody, who wants to play this game to it's death, to buy one OP item: the grappling hook! _________________ Team Hindsight / .ger Defense
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ZProtoss

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Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

It wasn't documented in the main page notes, however it was included in the actual patch itself.

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*Fixed an issue where Raiders could potentially die to non-Raiders

When the Jackal first came out, the running joke for top competition players (when trolling with the weapon) was that it auto detonated when close to people mid-air. It was that easy to use.

The Plasma Gun is so absurdly powerful, it actually takes the joke about the pre-nerf jackal and turns it into reality. The projectile size is so ridiculously large, that it's actually easy to have games where people get anywhere from 30-50 airmails.

The projectile hitbox size needs to be cut in half if not more. It's currently the most absurd weapon I've ever seen in T:A, and that includes the 150 damage+ NJ4 from back in alpha/early beta. Good lord.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:58 am

ellbee

Joined: Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:57 am
Posts: 135

Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

2 1/2 rounds of arena, 50 airmails, gg. thing is a joke and broken and bart i told you this last night :[

reduce projectile speed, fix f*** up radius, ty

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:00 am

leadingrunner

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:11 am
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Steam Gamer Name: [RH]leading

Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

I was expecting this to be the case just watching the patch video....

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Rymsky

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Arcadizz1e

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Joined: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:19 am
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Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

in theory the weapon should be fine but the projectile radius and splash radius are just absurd, the fact that literally 50% of the time the projectile will miss the target by several feet and yet deal full damage highlights this.

fix the radius and while it will be strong it won't be a clear upgrade from gren/arx

i think it is important to remember though that you lose the ability to grenade jump and that the nj4 is actually going to kill things faster. if the weapon was included in comp play, after a short honeymoon i don't see many raider O players opting to use it over the gren

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 am

Mono

Joined: Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:57 am
Posts: 39

Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

It'll get changed eventually, HR seem to be following the RIOT school of game design to a f*** tea.

#1 Release absurd stuff on a reliable schedule.
#2 Nerf said absurd stuff soon after so people want more of #1
#3 Throw loads of money at sponsors to get game recognised as an "e-sport" when there are serious glaring issues anyways.
#4 Repeat 1# and #2 until coffers overflow
#5 Laugh all the way to the bank as the uneducated masses scream your product is the best thing since sliced bread.

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HiRezKate wrote:

Your frustration and tears feed my creativity.<3

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:03 am

player3

Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:55 pm
Posts: 81

Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

ABSURD

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:04 am

MoonshineFox

Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 2:11 pm
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Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

Jackal released in stupid OP mode. Nerfed within days. Give it a rest, it'll be nerfed.

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DuckBlitz wrote:

Breaking news: Good Players Still Good -- more of today's headlines: Aiming OP? Totally! // Lights Squishy, How!? // Enemies In My Genroom? It's More Likely Than You Think // New Stuff Popular, Who Would've Thought?

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:06 am

ZProtoss

Alpha Tester

Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm
Posts: 427

Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

MoonshineFox wrote:

Jackal released in stupid OP mode. Nerfed within days. Give it a rest, it'll be nerfed.

Jackal is still stupid OP actually. It just went from OMGWTFBBQ OP, to never allowed in competition because it still breaks the game OP. The fact that it can insta gib mediums out of stealth makes it an enormously stupid weapon.

Plasma gun is in a league of its own though. New uncharted levels of broken.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:09 am

Doenerkalle

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:25 am
Posts: 63

Re: Unlisted Patch Change -IMPORTANT, READ INSIDE.

+1 OP. needs to be nerfed (in lets say 3-4 days when enough players have spend gold on it).

arena servers full of plasma raiders.
i think it's nice to see that hirez is actually earning some money with these regular patches. at least it means that they will support this game for some time in the future.

one day, when the community shrinks, player numbers are falling, they will play their last joker card to force everybody, who wants to play this game to it's death, to buy one OP item: the grappling hook!

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:14 am

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