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Chuckdatass Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 7:12 pm Posts: 424 Location: SoCal Steam Gamer Name: Chuckdatass	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? I noticed when its in-game physics problems or balancing issue Hi-Rez is really slow to responding if ever. But when $$$ is at stake, they will come very fast to reply. _________________ In Game Name: ChuckingIt Due to censorship of my name! Put Tribes 2 Style Force Fields on Base Turrets and Base Sensor. For the generators' sake.. Siege!
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:35 pm

MajorMelchett Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm Posts: 45	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? HiRezStew wrote: The "Premium" and "Assasin" Infiltrator bundles will still be for sale after tomorrow's patch, but the Mercenary and Weapon bundles will not. It's simply a "shelf space" issue. Your removing the best bundle - the weapons only 1!. The weapon only bundles should never be removed as they're cheap and provide the actual weapons that change the class. In the end the bundle section should have had all the classes weapons packs and the skins should remain seperate (with perhaps a limited time offer bundle to get them with the weapons). You really need to start puttng out timeframes on how long the bundles will appear then HR, as i'm sure a lot of people may have been holding off (for whatever reason) and now without warning 2 of the bundles have gone. So i ask, how long will the raiders weapon only bundle be available?, i'd like to know so i can make sure to buy them before you leave only the MOST EXPENSIVE options, i'm not interested in the skins at all. You say it's a shelf space issue?, i don't buy that at all. It seems more like a $ issue to me as you removed the cheapest packs but kept the most expensive. I mean how hard is it to add more shelf space or a new class specific bundle section (not that hard i recon). Last edited by MajorMelchett on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:46 pm

SonicSilence Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:14 am Posts: 545	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? i think you can reasonably assume the "cheap" bundles will last until the next one and the "premium" ones will last much longer
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:48 pm

MajorMelchett Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm Posts: 45	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? SonicSilence wrote: i think you can reasonably assume the "cheap" bundles will last until the next one and the "premium" ones will last much longer But we have no time frames on the updates, and as shown here we didn't really get any notice of the new pack (well a day or so). Think of it like this, if you thought to yourself yesterday "ohh i'll buy that inf weapon pack next week when my wages/pocket money etc goes in" you wouldn't be best pleased as all they left you with was the most expensive packs with things you dmay not want. As such they really need to either add a "available until" after the packs or make sure on the patch notes that introduce the weapons/skins states something similar so people have an idea of a time frame to purchase the pack they want, or they should at least give peiople a bit of a heads up (maybe 2 weeks or so) on when a pack is being removed - i mean dam, we only found this out via this thread. Last edited by MajorMelchett on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:53 pm

SonicSilence Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:14 am Posts: 545	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? MajorMelchett wrote: SonicSilence wrote: i think you can reasonably assume the "cheap" bundles will last until the next one and the "premium" ones will last much longer But we have no time frames on the updates, and as shown here we didn't really get any notice of the new pack (well a day or so). Think of it like this, if you thought to yourself yesterday "ohh i'll buy that inf weapon pack next week when my wages/pocket money etc goes in" you wouldn't be best pleased. As such they really need to either add a "available until" after the packs or make sure on the patch notes it states something similar so people have an idea of a time frame to purchase the pack they want or at least give peiople a bit of a heads up on when a pack is being removed (i mean dam, we only found this out via this thread). The lack of time frame is almost assuredly on purpose. If you know a deal is good, but also limited and you don't know until when, you're FAR more likely to impulse buy it
Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:57 pm

MajorMelchett Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm Posts: 45	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? SonicSilence wrote: The lack of time frame is almost assuredly on purpose. If you know a deal is good, but also limited and you don't know until when, you're FAR more likely to impulse buy it I'd say it would work better letting people know, if you know it will be gone by XXX date you may pick it up before that date, if it's just gone without notice then you may noth bother buying at all. I'll just say this to HR, i had planned to buy all the weapons only packs for real money, i won't bother now if this is how your going to do things.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:00 pm

DemoEvolved Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 2031	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? SonicSilence wrote: The lack of time frame is almost assuredly on purpose. If you know a deal is good, but also limited and you don't know until when, you're FAR more likely to impulse buy it According to my information, knowing exactly when the deal is going to end is a big driver for time limited offerings.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:39 am

MajorMelchett Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm Posts: 45	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? So HR, any word on a possible "available until" then?, it's a pretty valid request so people know when a pack is going to finish. It's much better than the current "ohh look it's gone without notice" method. Other than this, perhaps ranther than keeping ther 2 most expensive packs and removing the cheapest, why not just have the preimum pack with all skins/weapons and cheapest pack with just the weapons. In any case, i really want to know if this is how your going to handle the bundle packs all the time (removal without notice).
Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:57 am

Dark19Tower Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:54 am Posts: 138	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? Maybe we could get told in the patch notes or the "update preview" videos that bundles will be removed? Doesn't have to be specific, could just be that little nudge for those who haven't decided yet. However, anyone who didn't at least buy the "Weapons Only" pack has only themselves to blame. The Jackal alone cost 780 Shazbucks, but the bundle had the Jackal, the Throwing Knives and the Smoke Grenade all for 800 Shzbucks. I personally could see literally no reason not to buy that bundle at least (unless you didn't have any or want to buy any Shazbucks, in which case the bundle is irrelevant anyway). _________________ Community-made legacy maps that keep HiRez mappers in their jobs. Want pub games with teamwork to have some fun?
Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:02 am

MajorMelchett Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm Posts: 45	Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store? Dark19Tower wrote: However, anyone who didn't at least buy the "Weapons Only" pack has only themselves to blame. The Jackal alone cost 780 Shazbucks, but the bundle had the Jackal, the Throwing Knives and the Smoke Grenade all for 800 Shzbucks. I personally could see literally no reason not to buy that bundle at least (unless you didn't have any or want to buy any Shazbucks, in which case the bundle is irrelevant anyway). Not everyone gets there income at the same time and not everyone started playing at the same time, it could be that some only just seen the bundles and thought "ohh i'll buy that cheap one next week when the wages go in". There could be many reasons why people haven't purchased a pack yet, it doesn't mean they weren't planning to. Simply put, removing any pack without any sort of notice at all is just plain silly.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:20 am

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Chuckdatass

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Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

I noticed when its in-game physics problems or balancing issue Hi-Rez is really slow to responding if ever.
But when $$$ is at stake, they will come very fast to reply.

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In Game Name: ChuckingIt Due to censorship of my name!
Put Tribes 2 Style Force Fields on Base Turrets and Base Sensor. For the generators' sake..
Siege!

Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:35 pm

MajorMelchett

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm
Posts: 45

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

HiRezStew wrote:

The "Premium" and "Assasin" Infiltrator bundles will still be for sale after tomorrow's patch, but the Mercenary and Weapon bundles will not. It's simply a "shelf space" issue.

Your removing the best bundle - the weapons only 1!. The weapon only bundles should never be removed as they're cheap and provide the actual weapons that change the class. In the end the bundle section should have had all the classes weapons packs and the skins should remain seperate (with perhaps a limited time offer bundle to get them with the weapons).

You really need to start puttng out timeframes on how long the bundles will appear then HR, as i'm sure a lot of people may have been holding off (for whatever reason) and now without warning 2 of the bundles have gone.

So i ask, how long will the raiders weapon only bundle be available?, i'd like to know so i can make sure to buy them before you leave only the MOST EXPENSIVE options, i'm not interested in the skins at all.

You say it's a shelf space issue?, i don't buy that at all. It seems more like a $ issue to me as you removed the cheapest packs but kept the most expensive. I mean how hard is it to add more shelf space or a new class specific bundle section (not that hard i recon).

Last edited by MajorMelchett on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:46 pm

SonicSilence

Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:14 am
Posts: 545

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

i think you can reasonably assume the "cheap" bundles will last until the next one and the "premium" ones will last much longer

Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:48 pm

MajorMelchett

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm
Posts: 45

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

SonicSilence wrote:

i think you can reasonably assume the "cheap" bundles will last until the next one and the "premium" ones will last much longer

But we have no time frames on the updates, and as shown here we didn't really get any notice of the new pack (well a day or so). Think of it like this, if you thought to yourself yesterday "ohh i'll buy that inf weapon pack next week when my wages/pocket money etc goes in" you wouldn't be best pleased as all they left you with was the most expensive packs with things you dmay not want.

As such they really need to either add a "available until" after the packs or make sure on the patch notes that introduce the weapons/skins states something similar so people have an idea of a time frame to purchase the pack they want, or they should at least give peiople a bit of a heads up (maybe 2 weeks or so) on when a pack is being removed - i mean dam, we only found this out via this thread.

Last edited by MajorMelchett on Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:53 pm

SonicSilence

Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 1:14 am
Posts: 545

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

MajorMelchett wrote:

SonicSilence wrote:

i think you can reasonably assume the "cheap" bundles will last until the next one and the "premium" ones will last much longer

But we have no time frames on the updates, and as shown here we didn't really get any notice of the new pack (well a day or so).

Think of it like this, if you thought to yourself yesterday "ohh i'll buy that inf weapon pack next week when my wages/pocket money etc goes in" you wouldn't be best pleased.

As such they really need to either add a "available until" after the packs or make sure on the patch notes it states something similar so people have an idea of a time frame to purchase the pack they want or at least give peiople a bit of a heads up on when a pack is being removed (i mean dam, we only found this out via this thread).

The lack of time frame is almost assuredly on purpose. If you know a deal is good, but also limited and you don't know until when, you're FAR more likely to impulse buy it

Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:57 pm

MajorMelchett

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm
Posts: 45

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

SonicSilence wrote:

The lack of time frame is almost assuredly on purpose. If you know a deal is good, but also limited and you don't know until when, you're FAR more likely to impulse buy it

I'd say it would work better letting people know, if you know it will be gone by XXX date you may pick it up before that date, if it's just gone without notice then you may noth bother buying at all.

I'll just say this to HR, i had planned to buy all the weapons only packs for real money, i won't bother now if this is how your going to do things.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:00 pm

DemoEvolved

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am
Posts: 2031

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

SonicSilence wrote:

The lack of time frame is almost assuredly on purpose. If you know a deal is good, but also limited and you don't know until when, you're FAR more likely to impulse buy it

According to my information, knowing exactly when the deal is going to end is a big driver for time limited offerings.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:39 am

MajorMelchett

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm
Posts: 45

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

So HR, any word on a possible "available until" then?, it's a pretty valid request so people know when a pack is going to finish. It's much better than the current "ohh look it's gone without notice" method.

Other than this, perhaps ranther than keeping ther 2 most expensive packs and removing the cheapest, why not just have the preimum pack with all skins/weapons and cheapest pack with just the weapons.

In any case, i really want to know if this is how your going to handle the bundle packs all the time (removal without notice).

Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:57 am

Dark19Tower

Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 3:54 am
Posts: 138

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

Maybe we could get told in the patch notes or the "update preview" videos that bundles will be removed? Doesn't have to be specific, could just be that little nudge for those who haven't decided yet.

However, anyone who didn't at least buy the "Weapons Only" pack has only themselves to blame. The Jackal alone cost 780 Shazbucks, but the bundle had the Jackal, the Throwing Knives and the Smoke Grenade all for 800 Shzbucks. I personally could see literally no reason not to buy that bundle at least (unless you didn't have any or want to buy any Shazbucks, in which case the bundle is irrelevant anyway).

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:02 am

MajorMelchett

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:41 pm
Posts: 45

Re: [Question] - Will the INF pack be removed from the store?

Dark19Tower wrote:

However, anyone who didn't at least buy the "Weapons Only" pack has only themselves to blame. The Jackal alone cost 780 Shazbucks, but the bundle had the Jackal, the Throwing Knives and the Smoke Grenade all for 800 Shzbucks. I personally could see literally no reason not to buy that bundle at least (unless you didn't have any or want to buy any Shazbucks, in which case the bundle is irrelevant anyway).

Not everyone gets there income at the same time and not everyone started playing at the same time, it could be that some only just seen the bundles and thought "ohh i'll buy that cheap one next week when the wages go in".

There could be many reasons why people haven't purchased a pack yet, it doesn't mean they weren't planning to.

Simply put, removing any pack without any sort of notice at all is just plain silly.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:20 am

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