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WitchDoctorVega Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am Posts: 2482 Location: On the coast, NH Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade SkepticTA wrote: I noticed in the video that most of the damage being done to the gen was with the plasma rifle, and in both clips the gen was not upgraded at all, which is super easy to destroy. The cluster bomblets appear to do splash damage between 100-500, which makes me think they have a pretty steep falloff. With the way they scatter, I imagine these aren't as easy to massacre with as they look in the video. The clips from Arx and Crossfire gen rooms show the raider tossing ALL of his nades at a group of people standing around humping each other in a corner, and icing them with plasma on top of that. Also the plasma rifle does slightly less damage than an indirect light spinfusor hit, and has zero knockback. The trade-off is higher RoF and larger projectile. Seems fair to me. don't get me wrong, the plasma gun is the only reason I would consider playing this class again, i just don't see why every cool weapon has to end up being a primary. _________________ CYBRIDS 4 LYF! Metagens 4 ever!
Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:52 am

SxxyKate Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:23 am Posts: 1614 Location: California	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade lol u havent even fired the new weapons and ur already whinning!!! whyyyyyyyy why u no liek change? _________________ SexyKate's Youtube Channel Clicky! Dueling Theory 101 : a beginner's guide to dueling in T:A
Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:55 am

scarfield Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:44 pm Posts: 61	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade could you stop making petitions for like one second and think
Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:57 am

MrLordcaptain Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm Posts: 654	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade Its way to early to whine. Lets try them first. _________________ Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:13 am

SkepticTA Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 3062	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade We still don't actually know if the plasma will be primary or secondary, but primary is likely and would make the most sense so I still don't see what the problem is. _________________ (AHK) T:A Physics Profiler
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:54 am

LagoonSeven Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:16 pm Posts: 421	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade Quoting myself from another thread LagoonSeven wrote: Im not actually worried about this gun, it is strong, but comes with the downside of being compared to the ARX, which is much better indoors, and the NJ4 is the king of outdoor play. Other then farming for the MA medal, I can't see much use? I don't see why people are screaming OP when they see this gun. Then again, haven't tried the gun yet, so nobody knows. These are just observations. By its own right the plasma gun seems too strong, but when you think about it... it doesn't really work well with the raider kit does it? I feel like this gun should have been buffed a bit and put on the brute as the heavy plasma gun. _________________
Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:59 am

SkepticTA Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 3062	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade I think most people wanted techs to have it, which I find agreeable. _________________ (AHK) T:A Physics Profiler
Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:01 am

WitchDoctorVega Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am Posts: 2482 Location: On the coast, NH Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade SkepticTA wrote: I think most people wanted techs to have it, which I find agreeable. as a primary, yes, techs instead of the thumper. as a secondary, soldier or raider i just hope they get it right. from the vid, it looks like it has way, way longer range than the old plasma with a much faster projectile. not necessarily a bad thing, but accompanied by that kind of damage......d*** man. _________________ CYBRIDS 4 LYF! Metagens 4 ever!
Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:13 am

Johnneh1 Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:04 am Posts: 88	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade WitchDoctorVega wrote: Your video has done nothing but show us that these weapons are too strong compared to other weapons in the game. That new grenade, though cool, does WAY too much damage considering the area it coveres. That s*** needs a nerf, pronto or people are probably gonna stop playing for a week or so until the noobs calm down. Plasma. I never thought I would see the day where having plasma was almost as bad as not having plasma. That weapon is supposed to be a secondary with like max 350 damage, not a primary dealing 500. What happened to its range? My main concern is another automatic, looks like a new way to get killed fast in close and now at a distance, im guessing they have put it as secondary and plasma as primary..... i hope they are not as OP as was shown in the video but i'll have to try to find out. i was hoping plasma was going to be secondary... i hate using automatics. _________________ T1 - Bypher T2 - {H} Bypher T:V - KmA_Johnneh T:A - Johnneh
Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:34 am

MadHat Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:06 pm Posts: 1366	Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade Johnneh1 wrote: WitchDoctorVega wrote: Your video has done nothing but show us that these weapons are too strong compared to other weapons in the game. That new grenade, though cool, does WAY too much damage considering the area it coveres. That s*** needs a nerf, pronto or people are probably gonna stop playing for a week or so until the noobs calm down. Plasma. I never thought I would see the day where having plasma was almost as bad as not having plasma. That weapon is supposed to be a secondary with like max 350 damage, not a primary dealing 500. What happened to its range? My main concern is another automatic, looks like a new way to get killed fast in close and now at a distance, im guessing they have put it as secondary and plasma as primary..... i hope they are not as OP as was shown in the video but i'll have to try to find out. i was hoping plasma was going to be secondary... i hate using automatics. On the good side it is a slower RoF with Scope MG, so improvement on the bullet hoses we currently have.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:43 am

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WitchDoctorVega

Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am
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Location: On the coast, NH
Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

SkepticTA wrote:

I noticed in the video that most of the damage being done to the gen was with the plasma rifle, and in both clips the gen was not upgraded at all, which is super easy to destroy. The cluster bomblets appear to do splash damage between 100-500, which makes me think they have a pretty steep falloff. With the way they scatter, I imagine these aren't as easy to massacre with as they look in the video. The clips from Arx and Crossfire gen rooms show the raider tossing ALL of his nades at a group of people standing around humping each other in a corner, and icing them with plasma on top of that.

Also the plasma rifle does slightly less damage than an indirect light spinfusor hit, and has zero knockback. The trade-off is higher RoF and larger projectile. Seems fair to me.

don't get me wrong, the plasma gun is the only reason I would consider playing this class again, i just don't see why every cool weapon has to end up being a primary.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:52 am

SxxyKate

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:23 am
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Location: California

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

lol u havent even fired the new weapons and ur already whinning!!!

whyyyyyyyy

why u no liek change?

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:55 am

scarfield

Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:44 pm
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Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

could you stop making petitions for like one second and think

Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:57 am

MrLordcaptain

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm
Posts: 654

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

Its way to early to whine. Lets try them first.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:13 am

SkepticTA

Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm
Posts: 3062

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

We still don't actually know if the plasma will be primary or secondary, but primary is likely and would make the most sense so I still don't see what the problem is.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:54 am

LagoonSeven

Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:16 pm
Posts: 421

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

Quoting myself from another thread

LagoonSeven wrote:

Im not actually worried about this gun, it is strong, but comes with the downside of being compared to the ARX, which is much better indoors, and the NJ4 is the king of outdoor play. Other then farming for the MA medal, I can't see much use?

I don't see why people are screaming OP when they see this gun.

Then again, haven't tried the gun yet, so nobody knows. These are just observations.

By its own right the plasma gun seems too strong, but when you think about it... it doesn't really work well with the raider kit does it? I feel like this gun should have been buffed a bit and put on the brute as the heavy plasma gun.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:59 am

SkepticTA

Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm
Posts: 3062

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

I think most people wanted techs to have it, which I find agreeable.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:01 am

WitchDoctorVega

Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am
Posts: 2482
Location: On the coast, NH
Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

SkepticTA wrote:

I think most people wanted techs to have it, which I find agreeable.

as a primary, yes, techs instead of the thumper.
as a secondary, soldier or raider

i just hope they get it right. from the vid, it looks like it has way, way longer range than the old plasma with a much faster projectile. not necessarily a bad thing, but accompanied by that kind of damage......d*** man.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:13 am

Johnneh1

Joined: Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:04 am
Posts: 88

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

WitchDoctorVega wrote:

Your video has done nothing but show us that these weapons are too strong compared to other weapons in the game.

That new grenade, though cool, does WAY too much damage considering the area it coveres. That s*** needs a nerf, pronto or people are probably gonna stop playing for a week or so until the noobs calm down.

Plasma.

I never thought I would see the day where having plasma was almost as bad as not having plasma. That weapon is supposed to be a secondary with like max 350 damage, not a primary dealing 500. What happened to its range?

My main concern is another automatic, looks like a new way to get killed fast in close and now at a distance, im guessing they have put it as secondary and plasma as primary..... i hope they are not as OP as was shown in the video but i'll have to try to find out.

i was hoping plasma was going to be secondary... i hate using automatics.

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:34 am

MadHat

Joined: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:06 pm
Posts: 1366

Re: PRE-RELEASE NERF PETITION: Plasma / Cluster Grenade

Johnneh1 wrote:

WitchDoctorVega wrote:

On the good side it is a slower RoF with Scope MG, so improvement on the bullet hoses we currently have.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:43 am

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