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FreaK367 Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm Posts: 587 Location: England Steam Gamer Name: FreaK	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? Would 100% Inheritance act as a buff to automatics?, would it make them easier? _________________ Desired: Bind VGS commands to keys. Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap) Large Automatic Nerfs Decent Plasma Gun Nerf Large Jackal Nerf
Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:32 am

Schottingham Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm Posts: 644	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? RootbeerAlamode wrote: This would also weaken the dumb ground strafing tactic since someone doing this would effectively have higher spread, dodging like this would come at a cost. It would also buff chasing ever so slightly since a chaser would have smaller lead angles and effectively faster bullet speed. Most important point in this thread. 100% on autos would buff chasing, nerf silly medium range juking, and generally make chainguns behave sensibly. The current behavior at high speed is extremely counterintuitive. _________________ - Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video) - Remove regen, bring back health kits - Buff explosive jumping - 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)
Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:46 am

111uminate Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:10 am Posts: 387 Steam Gamer Name: WhiteCrow	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? FreaK367 wrote: Would 100% Inheritance act as a buff to automatics?, would it make them easier? Without going into an over extended explanation, for the most part, yes, though supporters will probably tell you different. We all know automatics need a buff in this game. _________________ IGN: WhiteCrow (Yeah, I'm that guy.) HiRezTodd wrote: Data-porn!
Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:17 am

MarcDaKind Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 am Posts: 390 Location: Skiing on the mountains of Norway! Steam Gamer Name: MarcDaKind	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? FreaK367 wrote: Would 100% Inheritance act as a buff to automatics?, would it make them easier? Just nerf the mussel speed a little bit, to keep them in line with the previous numbers. _________________ It's not about 100% inheritance being a higher or lower value than another. It's about any other value being to low, or to high.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:22 am

FreaK367 Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm Posts: 587 Location: England Steam Gamer Name: FreaK	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? Was going to say, the last thing automatics need is a buff of any kind, they need serious nerfs all around. Backed up by this vote: http://forum.hirezstudios.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=66986 _________________ Desired: Bind VGS commands to keys. Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap) Large Automatic Nerfs Decent Plasma Gun Nerf Large Jackal Nerf
Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:05 am

Skoffin Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:54 pm Posts: 445	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? RootbeerAlamode wrote: All this is pointless anyways because hirez already stated they don't give 2 s*** about the pros and cons of inheritance, they just want to appeal to tradition. So do it already. [sarcasm] So that means we can expect 3/4/5 weapons and fully customizable loadouts soon. Awesome, I can't wait! [/end sarcasm] _________________ "Juggernauts excel at long range bombardment...and devastate with their mortars"? Funny, last I checked nearly every weapon in the game out ranges the mortar. Increase the muzzle velocity on mortars already. Pretty please?
Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:13 am

MarcDaKind Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 am Posts: 390 Location: Skiing on the mountains of Norway! Steam Gamer Name: MarcDaKind	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? Skoffin wrote: RootbeerAlamode wrote: All this is pointless anyways because hirez already stated they don't give 2 s*** about the pros and cons of inheritance, they just want to appeal to tradition. So do it already. [sarcasm] So that means we can expect 3/4/5 weapons and fully customizable loadouts soon. Awesome, I can't wait! [/end sarcasm] He is also being sarcastic... The main argument Hi-Rez has for keeping 50% inheritance on projectile weapons, is that they used that in former games. Thus why this ironically also should apply to bullet weapons. _________________ It's not about 100% inheritance being a higher or lower value than another. It's about any other value being to low, or to high.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 am

Skoffin Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:54 pm Posts: 445	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? duh _________________ "Juggernauts excel at long range bombardment...and devastate with their mortars"? Funny, last I checked nearly every weapon in the game out ranges the mortar. Increase the muzzle velocity on mortars already. Pretty please?
Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:07 am

DogmeatX Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am Posts: 1259	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? The game is going to the reviews now. Websites, magazines, interviews and reviews. There won't be any kind of drastic changes for a while and as more freebie players join in I'd be very surprised if the chances of major change don't diminish over time. Happy to be proved wrong though (over a number of issues, all with associated mega threads)
Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:20 am

fubbymaster Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:21 pm Posts: 337	Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos? When hirez decides to fix the game
Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:17 am

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FreaK367

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm
Posts: 587
Location: England
Steam Gamer Name: FreaK

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

Would 100% Inheritance act as a buff to automatics?, would it make them easier?

_________________

Desired:
Bind VGS commands to keys.
Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap)
Large Automatic Nerfs
Decent Plasma Gun Nerf
Large Jackal Nerf

Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:32 am

Schottingham

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm
Posts: 644

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

This would also weaken the dumb ground strafing tactic since someone doing this would effectively have higher spread, dodging like this would come at a cost. It would also buff chasing ever so slightly since a chaser would have smaller lead angles and effectively faster bullet speed.

Most important point in this thread. 100% on autos would buff chasing, nerf silly medium range juking, and generally make chainguns behave sensibly. The current behavior at high speed is extremely counterintuitive.

_________________
- Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video)
- Remove regen, bring back health kits
- Buff explosive jumping
- 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)

Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:46 am

111uminate

Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:10 am
Posts: 387
Steam Gamer Name: WhiteCrow

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

FreaK367 wrote:

Would 100% Inheritance act as a buff to automatics?, would it make them easier?

Without going into an over extended explanation, for the most part, yes, though supporters will probably tell you different. We all know automatics need a buff in this game.

_________________

IGN: WhiteCrow (Yeah, I'm that guy.)

HiRezTodd wrote:

Data-porn!

Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:17 am

MarcDaKind

Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 am
Posts: 390
Location: Skiing on the mountains of Norway!
Steam Gamer Name: MarcDaKind

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

FreaK367 wrote:

Would 100% Inheritance act as a buff to automatics?, would it make them easier?

Just nerf the mussel speed a little bit, to keep them in line with the previous numbers.

_________________
It's not about 100% inheritance being a higher or lower value than another. It's about any other value being to low, or to high.

Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:22 am

FreaK367

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm
Posts: 587
Location: England
Steam Gamer Name: FreaK

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

Was going to say, the last thing automatics need is a buff of any kind, they need serious nerfs all around.

Backed up by this vote: http://forum.hirezstudios.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=313&t=66986

_________________

Desired:
Bind VGS commands to keys.
Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap)
Large Automatic Nerfs
Decent Plasma Gun Nerf
Large Jackal Nerf

Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:05 am

Skoffin

Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:54 pm
Posts: 445

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

All this is pointless anyways because hirez already stated they don't give 2 s*** about the pros and cons of inheritance, they just want to appeal to tradition. So do it already.

[sarcasm]
So that means we can expect 3/4/5 weapons and fully customizable loadouts soon.

Awesome, I can't wait!

[/end sarcasm]

_________________
"Juggernauts excel at long range bombardment...and devastate with their mortars"? Funny, last I checked nearly every weapon in the game out ranges the mortar. Increase the muzzle velocity on mortars already. Pretty please?

Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:13 am

MarcDaKind

Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 am
Posts: 390
Location: Skiing on the mountains of Norway!
Steam Gamer Name: MarcDaKind

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

Skoffin wrote:

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

All this is pointless anyways because hirez already stated they don't give 2 s*** about the pros and cons of inheritance, they just want to appeal to tradition. So do it already.

[sarcasm]
So that means we can expect 3/4/5 weapons and fully customizable loadouts soon.

Awesome, I can't wait!

[/end sarcasm]

He is also being sarcastic...

The main argument Hi-Rez has for keeping 50% inheritance on projectile weapons, is that they used that in former games. Thus why this ironically also should apply to bullet weapons.

_________________
It's not about 100% inheritance being a higher or lower value than another. It's about any other value being to low, or to high.

Sun Apr 15, 2012 6:16 am

Skoffin

Joined: Wed Feb 15, 2012 10:54 pm
Posts: 445

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

duh

Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:07 am

DogmeatX

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am
Posts: 1259

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

The game is going to the reviews now. Websites, magazines, interviews and reviews. There won't be any kind of drastic changes for a while and as more freebie players join in I'd be very surprised if the chances of major change don't diminish over time.

Happy to be proved wrong though (over a number of issues, all with associated mega threads)

Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:20 am

fubbymaster

Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:21 pm
Posts: 337

Re: When can we expect 100% inheritance on autos?

When hirez decides to fix the game

Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:17 am

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