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faramir Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:25 pm Posts: 533 Location: Marseille, France	Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level Yesterday night, I joined the 3 classic types of London servers (but it must apply to the entire Tribesverse). The first one was a classic pure STACKING Blood Eagle edition. I joined a game that ended in a boring 5:0... the next one started as a landslide... I asked if stacking was the norm on this server. The answer was "shut up or leave". 30s later I was on a different server. This one was a boring pub. Lots of llama grabs, very little defense, boring stand off. Since Raindance was around the corner... I stayed there for a while. And eventually left when Raindance finished. The third server was my best Tribes Ascend experience to date. There were a lot of 30+ players. While some llama grabs occurred most of the grabs were done at insane speeds. Capping on a stand off was a matter of having enough health to disc jump when the flag returned. On Arx after failing to kill the flag runner, I passed him by going faster in the side corridor and pulled my best egrab a split second in front of him... I had less than 100hp left. Here are the names of some good players that were on this server: - JanoLapin great defense on Blood Eagle side. - BeuSSai great offense on the Blood Eagle side. - TuDoZ best thumper on the Diamond Sword side. - tehKNi is a pain with his shrike and reliable 300+ flag grabs on the Diamond Sword side. - Erkin will simply hand over your ass right and left. - squintik a sentinel that doesn't camp his spawn point. - ToXinE great all rounder that also switch teams at map change to balance/change the gameplay. - Rinuel seems to enjoy egrabs and instant nitron-flag-returns more than me. The only painful/boring game was on Crossfire when all the major defense players were on the same side. I switched to the "I believe I can fly" mode hunting for the 300+kph skiing speed. _________________ Fabrice Roux a Tribes 1/2 veteran from southern France Faramir[TOP] turret farmer in T1 Renegades/Shifter/Base - T2 Base/Classic Maker of the Faramir Tribes 2 script pack (50 of the best Tribes 2 scripts) I gave up on Tribes Ascend on 2012/09/04.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:56 am

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4824 Location: NA East	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level This tends to happen to me as well in NA east, but I usually stubbornly stay in the server, thinking it'll just drop me there again if I re-queue. I really should try switching servers more often, because some of the games are really bad. Maybe it'll queue me better once I break 30? Been 29 for a while, because it's tough playing when I see so much about the game I think can be better. Have no idea how their match making works though, if it's in tiers, or completely relative, etc. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:25 am

DogmeatX Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am Posts: 1259	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level Don't know about REALLY FUN but had some more enjoyable/matches which last longer than normal and aren't 5-0 on the "Oldtimers" servers recently. It could be because a number of the players are relatively high rank i.e. been playing ages and there are a few T1/T2 players there too. I just wish those servers had full map rotation. Lots of people drop when Katabatic rolls round
Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:27 am

Miuku Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:28 pm Posts: 118	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level Really fun; 7 snipers on raindance. Did we win? Sure, but it's still INCREDIBLY GOD d*** BORING. _________________ :: Miuku :: Heavy Offence :: Flatliners [is dead?] :: What has happened to my health, stolen some would say.. where is my health, when I need you most.. gone away.. and as I try to make my way to the generator room, I will learn to survive..
Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:37 am

FreaK367 Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm Posts: 587 Location: England Steam Gamer Name: FreaK	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level Now and again I'll get into a server that has competitive teams, fairly evenly matched, and d* it is fun. Both teams trying their hardest. Found one a couple of days ago and after one epic match we vowed to keep the same teams, and it was really close and just great for about 3 maps before I needed to leave. First map my team lost 5 - 4, second map we won 4 - 3 in overtime, third map was a slim 5 - 4 win to my team, all lasting atleast 20 minutes. I've got to say though, 90% of the time, teams are stacked to holy hell. I always join the unstacked team since stacking is for scum. I absolutely HATE stackers, there is no fun in it. Yesterday I was on a server that was Diamond Sword stacked, I played 3 matches before rage quitting. It was 16 v 16 and Blood Eagle had about 10 Bronze ranks, 5 silver, and me. Diamond Sword had about 13 Silver ranks and 3 Bronze. I'd love to say "rank means nothing!", like people do, but it was like playing with infants. I had to try and do everything, we had no defense or offense, I don't actually know what my team was doing. And Diamond Sword had atleast 5 defenders, 5 offense and 5 chasers. First map ended 5 - 2, I had both caps and 6 returns, but with no help we just got destroyed, second map was 5 - 1, I got the cap, but we had no defense, so ours was just getting llama grabbed and I had to try and fight off 5 chasers while the enemy carrier just stood on his stand waiting. Third map was 4 - 0 within 10 minutes, and I just got sick of it, I was attempting to cap against this time about 7 defenders, while the rest of my team didn't make any sort of effort to defend or chase. So I rage quit. Inbetween rounds I was asking people not to stack, but it was just the same teams over and over, in the third map, one of the guys, a fellow gold rank did join Blood Eagle like I asked, so then it was 2 vs 16, still didn't work. What annoyed me equally was my team, I seen guys saying "I'm at the highest point on the map, join me!", "Gen party", and after the second map one guy Said "I've never done this well as a Sentinel before", useless morons. Sorry, but I'm competitive, I want to win, I want unstacked teams to try harder and win, I just wish others had my work ethic. When we're losing 3 - 0, Ignore the d* generator, defending the flag is more important. Drives me insane. But yeah, the 10% I get evenly matched fun games, Tribes: Ascend feels like an amazing game. It's just the 90% that makes me want to quit. _________________ Desired: Bind VGS commands to keys. Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap) Large Automatic Nerfs Decent Plasma Gun Nerf Large Jackal Nerf
Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:10 am

disci Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Winland	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level What ever team I join on pubs it gets stacked. This is why I don't play pubs, since I hate team stacking so much!
Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:56 am

GAsEnvoy Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:10 pm Posts: 569	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level My very first impressions of Tribes that i posted on the GA forums was basically jet packs are terrible, pubs are terrible, comp level play has some serious potential though. And i think that verdict has held up. Once private servers go online and you can put level limiters then i think the fun factor of tribes will go up exponentially. _________________ croyolacrowns wrote: f*** diplomacy. This is a game about people who abandoned civilized culture so they could fire exploding nuclear discs at each other. Give us straight talk or eat death. TheCEOBitches! wrote: All the game system you see in Smite are by my design...everything you either like or dislike...you can blame on me.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:16 am

RabbitSlayer Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:27 pm Posts: 19	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level Just played on a server with a level 40 and another high level player. All other players were level 1 to 5. No armor or good weapons. Terrible experience. I wonder how many were turned off the game because of those two players.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:29 am

Harmonics Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:06 am Posts: 66	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level this is why i want the server browser to show us the names and ranks in each server before joining, anyone know if they plan on adding that feature?
Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:38 am

VonSchlupeurk Joined: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:05 pm Posts: 448	Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level Sounds like it was practically a pickup game this happens when friends and friends of friends join up on a previously empty server. They are more inclined to work with each other , hence improving the game structure. Which provides inspiration for average players as well. FreaK367 wrote: I had to try and do everything, we had no defense or offense, I don't actually know what my team was doing. Ah yes , the Missing Team Syndrome. One of the great mysteries of Tribes Ascend , as the 5 seconds respawn loop cannot account for the great void of teammates in relevant map areas. RabbitSlayer wrote: Just played on a server with a level 40 and another high level player. All other players were level 1 to 5. No armor or good weapons. Terrible experience. I wonder how many were turned off the game because of those two players. They must have been trolling , level 1-6 players are matched against each other only - the only way for higher level players to get on those servers is to join a friend with a freshly created account. _________________ Tactician bronze badge : 500 XP. Getting it from a supply drop in combat : priceless.
Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:27 am

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faramir

Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:25 pm
Posts: 533
Location: Marseille, France

Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

Yesterday night, I joined the 3 classic types of London servers (but it must apply to the entire Tribesverse).

The first one was a classic pure STACKING Blood Eagle edition. I joined a game that ended in a boring 5:0... the next one started as a landslide... I asked if stacking was the norm on this server. The answer was "shut up or leave". 30s later I was on a different server.

This one was a boring pub. Lots of llama grabs, very little defense, boring stand off. Since Raindance was around the corner... I stayed there for a while. And eventually left when Raindance finished.

The third server was my best Tribes Ascend experience to date. There were a lot of 30+ players. While some llama grabs occurred most of the grabs were done at insane speeds. Capping on a stand off was a matter of having enough health to disc jump when the flag returned.
On Arx after failing to kill the flag runner, I passed him by going faster in the side corridor and pulled my best egrab a split second in front of him... I had less than 100hp left.

Here are the names of some good players that were on this server:
- JanoLapin great defense on Blood Eagle side.
- BeuSSai great offense on the Blood Eagle side.
- TuDoZ best thumper on the Diamond Sword side.
- tehKNi is a pain with his shrike and reliable 300+ flag grabs on the Diamond Sword side.
- Erkin will simply hand over your ass right and left.
- squintik a sentinel that doesn't camp his spawn point.
- ToXinE great all rounder that also switch teams at map change to balance/change the gameplay.
- Rinuel seems to enjoy egrabs and instant nitron-flag-returns more than me.

The only painful/boring game was on Crossfire when all the major defense players were on the same side. I switched to the "I believe I can fly" mode hunting for the 300+kph skiing speed.

_________________
Fabrice Roux a Tribes 1/2 veteran from southern France
Faramir[TOP] turret farmer in T1 Renegades/Shifter/Base - T2 Base/Classic
Maker of the Faramir Tribes 2 script pack (50 of the best Tribes 2 scripts)
I gave up on Tribes Ascend on 2012/09/04.

Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:56 am

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
Posts: 4824
Location: NA East

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

This tends to happen to me as well in NA east, but I usually stubbornly stay in the server, thinking it'll just drop me there again if I re-queue. I really should try switching servers more often, because some of the games are really bad.

Maybe it'll queue me better once I break 30? Been 29 for a while, because it's tough playing when I see so much about the game I think can be better. Have no idea how their match making works though, if it's in tiers, or completely relative, etc.

_________________

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Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:25 am

DogmeatX

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am
Posts: 1259

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

Don't know about REALLY FUN but had some more enjoyable/matches which last longer than normal and aren't 5-0 on the "Oldtimers" servers recently.

It could be because a number of the players are relatively high rank i.e. been playing ages and there are a few T1/T2 players there too.

I just wish those servers had full map rotation. Lots of people drop when Katabatic rolls round

Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:27 am

Miuku

Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:28 pm
Posts: 118

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

Really fun; 7 snipers on raindance.

Did we win? Sure, but it's still INCREDIBLY GOD d*** BORING.

_________________
:: Miuku :: Heavy Offence :: Flatliners [is dead?] ::

What has happened to my health, stolen some would say.. where is my health, when I need you most.. gone away..
and as I try to make my way to the generator room, I will learn to survive..

Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:37 am

FreaK367

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm
Posts: 587
Location: England
Steam Gamer Name: FreaK

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

Now and again I'll get into a server that has competitive teams, fairly evenly matched, and d*** it is fun. Both teams trying their hardest. Found one a couple of days ago and after one epic match we vowed to keep the same teams, and it was really close and just great for about 3 maps before I needed to leave. First map my team lost 5 - 4, second map we won 4 - 3 in overtime, third map was a slim 5 - 4 win to my team, all lasting atleast 20 minutes.

I've got to say though, 90% of the time, teams are stacked to holy hell. I always join the unstacked team since stacking is for scum. I absolutely HATE stackers, there is no fun in it. Yesterday I was on a server that was Diamond Sword stacked, I played 3 matches before rage quitting.

It was 16 v 16 and Blood Eagle had about 10 Bronze ranks, 5 silver, and me. Diamond Sword had about 13 Silver ranks and 3 Bronze. I'd love to say "rank means nothing!", like people do, but it was like playing with infants. I had to try and do everything, we had no defense or offense, I don't actually know what my team was doing. And Diamond Sword had atleast 5 defenders, 5 offense and 5 chasers.

First map ended 5 - 2, I had both caps and 6 returns, but with no help we just got destroyed, second map was 5 - 1, I got the cap, but we had no defense, so ours was just getting llama grabbed and I had to try and fight off 5 chasers while the enemy carrier just stood on his stand waiting. Third map was 4 - 0 within 10 minutes, and I just got sick of it, I was attempting to cap against this time about 7 defenders, while the rest of my team didn't make any sort of effort to defend or chase. So I rage quit.

Inbetween rounds I was asking people not to stack, but it was just the same teams over and over, in the third map, one of the guys, a fellow gold rank did join Blood Eagle like I asked, so then it was 2 vs 16, still didn't work.

What annoyed me equally was my team, I seen guys saying "I'm at the highest point on the map, join me!", "Gen party", and after the second map one guy Said "I've never done this well as a Sentinel before", useless morons.

Sorry, but I'm competitive, I want to win, I want unstacked teams to try harder and win, I just wish others had my work ethic. When we're losing 3 - 0, Ignore the d*** generator, defending the flag is more important. Drives me insane.

But yeah, the 10% I get evenly matched fun games, Tribes: Ascend feels like an amazing game. It's just the 90% that makes me want to quit.

_________________

Desired:
Bind VGS commands to keys.
Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap)
Large Automatic Nerfs
Decent Plasma Gun Nerf
Large Jackal Nerf

Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:10 am

disci

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Winland

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

What ever team I join on pubs it gets stacked. This is why I don't play pubs, since I hate team stacking so much!

Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:56 am

GAsEnvoy

Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:10 pm
Posts: 569

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

My very first impressions of Tribes that i posted on the GA forums was basically jet packs are terrible, pubs are terrible, comp level play has some serious potential though. And i think that verdict has held up. Once private servers go online and you can put level limiters then i think the fun factor of tribes will go up exponentially.

_________________

croyolacrowns wrote:

f*** diplomacy. This is a game about people who abandoned civilized culture so they could fire exploding nuclear discs at each other. Give us straight talk or eat death.

TheCEOBitches! wrote:

All the game system you see in Smite are by my design...everything you either like or dislike...you can blame on me.

Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:16 am

RabbitSlayer

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:27 pm
Posts: 19

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

Just played on a server with a level 40 and another high level player. All other players were level 1 to 5. No armor or good weapons. Terrible experience. I wonder how many were turned off the game because of those two players.

Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:29 am

Harmonics

Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:06 am
Posts: 66

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

this is why i want the server browser to show us the names and ranks in each server before joining, anyone know if they plan on adding that feature?

Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:38 am

VonSchlupeurk

Joined: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:05 pm
Posts: 448

Re: Pubs can be REALLY FUN and with a high level

Sounds like it was practically a pickup game

this happens when friends and friends of friends join up on a previously empty server. They are more inclined to work with each other , hence improving the game structure. Which provides inspiration for average players as well.

FreaK367 wrote:

I had to try and do everything, we had no defense or offense, I don't actually know what my team was doing.

Ah yes , the Missing Team Syndrome. One of the great mysteries of Tribes Ascend , as the 5 seconds respawn loop cannot account for the great void of teammates in relevant map areas.

RabbitSlayer wrote:

They must have been trolling , level 1-6 players are matched against each other only - the only way for higher level players to get on those servers is to join a friend with a freshly created account.

_________________

Tactician bronze badge : 500 XP. Getting it from a supply drop in combat : priceless.

Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:27 am

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