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Trilandian Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm Posts: 485	Call down... turrets? Who here doesn't hate call down strikes? I hate them, you hate them, we all hate them. I've yet to see a single post in which a person thinks call down strikes are acceptable (much less a good thing). A couple of times when someone in a thread on an unrelated subject complained about call down strikes, I told them that once the private servers were up, they would have the option of playing games not plagued by these hated monstrosities. But what about the pubs? Will they forever be relegated to be wastelands of strike spam where a solid defense can vanish in a blink of an eye? I say thee nay! We must have justice! But what of the credits? Surely one's spending can't be limited to upgrading base assets, buying vehicles and calling down inventory stations. An alternative solution is needed. And then I had it! What if... stay with me on this... what if you could call down... turrets?!? Turrets just like the couple you have strewn around your base. You call them down, then once they land it takes them a few seconds to deploy (during which they are completely vulnerable) and become operational and battle ready. Difference is, when they're totally broken, there's no fixing them back up. We could have several types of turrets with varying functions, strengths and costs. Cannon turrets, gatling turrets, flak turrets, missile turrets, mortar turrets... sky's the limit. Strengthen the defenses around your base's perimeter, bombard the enemy's base to knock their defense out of position, create a hard-point in the middle of the map as a staging ground for your offense or as a relief point for your cappers, you decide! With this alternative, a match's balance won't suddenly shift drastically whenever someone reached 10k credits, and those zany kill-streakers will still have something to spend their earnings on. So... what y'all think? _________________ Thump... BOOM --- My Contributions Intelligent Turret Placement Management tools --- Important Topics Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC Last edited by Trilandian on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:47 am, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:35 am

Xbob42 Beta Tester Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:03 pm Posts: 188	Re: Call down... turrets? I really love the strikes. But I only play on TDM. On CTF, they seem to be quite the worst thing in the universe because of exposed bases and all that jazz, and super easy routes to hit FCs with if that's your thing. But in TDM, they can be exceptional tactical.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:38 am

Trilandian Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm Posts: 485	Re: Call down... turrets? Xbob42 wrote: I really love the strikes. But I only play on TDM. On CTF, they seem to be quite the worst thing in the universe because of exposed bases and all that jazz, and super easy routes to hit FCs with if that's your thing. But in TDM, they can be exceptional tactical. No one said it has to affect all game modes. I'm only talking about CTF. _________________ Thump... BOOM --- My Contributions Intelligent Turret Placement Management tools --- Important Topics Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:39 am

Xbob42 Beta Tester Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:03 pm Posts: 188	Re: Call down... turrets? That's the thing. Everyone on here assumes that everyone plays only CTF. Therefore, when things like strike prices change, it affects TDM as well. I wish Hi-Rez would balance different modes with different rules...
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:41 am

Trilandian Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm Posts: 485	Re: Call down... turrets? Xbob42 wrote: That's the thing. Everyone on here assumes that everyone plays only CTF. Therefore, when things like strike prices change, it affects TDM as well. I wish Hi-Rez would balance different modes with different rules... Nice thought. Maybe (hopefully) past release they will. _________________ Thump... BOOM --- My Contributions Intelligent Turret Placement Management tools --- Important Topics Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:41 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: Call down... turrets? I think this is a good idea, though they'd need to cost a fair amount due to how useful they'd be. Maybe 5000 to call in a Mk.0 Base Turret, 7000 to call in a Gattling Turret (basically a large, rapid-fire Light Turret), and 9000 to call in a Flak Turret (which can only aim at airborne targets and fires rounds which detonate mid-air with a large radius) The high cost means upgrading the normal Base Turrets is still a more effective use of credits for long term defence, but call-in turrets would make a good money sink for when the Base Turrets are already upgraded. _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much! Last edited by DibbzTheLoner on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:48 am, edited 2 times in total.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:43 am

supern00b Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:24 am Posts: 551 Location: New Zealand	Re: Call down... turrets? I would agree on this being implemented ONLY in CTF. This infact, would be a great way to replace the current strikes. However the big lazor strikes should stay in TDM. And no strikes in arena for gods sake...... _________________ Joined: Tue 12 Jul, 2011 4:24 am Left: Wed 05 Mar, 2013 9:35 pm Posts in 2013: 1 I always edit for typos.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:44 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: Call down... turrets? supern00b wrote: I would agree on this being implemented ONLY in CTF. This infact, would be a great way to replace the current strikes. However the big lazor strikes should stay in TDM. And no strikes in arena for gods sake...... This. _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:46 am

blackchimes Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:07 am Posts: 1109	Re: Call down... turrets? Should've went Airborne I like call-in turrets idea as long as they're Manneable and don't work on their own.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:48 am

UnDeaDCyBorG Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:48 am Posts: 144	Re: Call down... turrets? Strikes are acceptable and a good thing. There. I said it. And no, there's no irony in that statement, just maybe a little bit of over-exaggeration. In Pubs, teamplay isn't. A Good defense is much easier to assemble than a good offense, let alone one coordinated with cappers. As such, strikes are the only option to not let games devolve in boring stalemates, even if that means it's team rabbit for 25 minutes. Now, orbitals, we can talk about that, but tac strikes are essentially the pub players juggernaut support. If, one day, we get a broad base of at least somewhat capable players, proper reward accolades for clearing bases, and bombers to fly, I fully agree with you that strikes are possibly obsolete. Until then, are are kind of required. Nonetheless, the ability to call down deployables is a sound one. _________________ uncleanon wrote: If you disagree your opinion is invalid.
Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:50 am

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Trilandian

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm
Posts: 485

Call down... turrets?

Who here doesn't hate call down strikes?

I hate them, you hate them, we all hate them.

I've yet to see a single post in which a person thinks call down strikes are acceptable (much less a good thing).

A couple of times when someone in a thread on an unrelated subject complained about call down strikes, I told them that once the private servers were up, they would have the option of playing games not plagued by these hated monstrosities.

But what about the pubs? Will they forever be relegated to be wastelands of strike spam where a solid defense can vanish in a blink of an eye? I say thee nay! We must have justice!

But what of the credits? Surely one's spending can't be limited to upgrading base assets, buying vehicles and calling down inventory stations. An alternative solution is needed.

And then I had it! What if... stay with me on this... what if you could call down... turrets?!? Turrets just like the couple you have strewn around your base. You call them down, then once they land it takes them a few seconds to deploy (during which they are completely vulnerable) and become operational and battle ready. Difference is, when they're totally broken, there's no fixing them back up.
We could have several types of turrets with varying functions, strengths and costs. Cannon turrets, gatling turrets, flak turrets, missile turrets, mortar turrets... sky's the limit. Strengthen the defenses around your base's perimeter, bombard the enemy's base to knock their defense out of position, create a hard-point in the middle of the map as a staging ground for your offense or as a relief point for your cappers, you decide!

With this alternative, a match's balance won't suddenly shift drastically whenever someone reached 10k credits, and those zany kill-streakers will still have something to spend their earnings on.

So... what y'all think?

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Thump... BOOM
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My Contributions
Intelligent Turret Placement
Management tools
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Important Topics
Missing/Broken Features - tinyurl.com/TA-MaBF
Tactics tutorial - tinyurl.com/TA-HRMaTATT
Call down turrets - tinyurl.com/TA-CDT
Varying unlock costs - tinyurl.com/TA-HRWTVUC

Last edited by Trilandian on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:47 am, edited 1 time in total.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:35 am

Xbob42

Beta Tester

Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:03 pm
Posts: 188

Re: Call down... turrets?

I really love the strikes. But I only play on TDM. On CTF, they seem to be quite the worst thing in the universe because of exposed bases and all that jazz, and super easy routes to hit FCs with if that's your thing. But in TDM, they can be exceptional tactical.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:38 am

Trilandian

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm
Posts: 485

Re: Call down... turrets?

Xbob42 wrote:

No one said it has to affect all game modes. I'm only talking about CTF.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:39 am

Xbob42

Beta Tester

Joined: Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:03 pm
Posts: 188

Re: Call down... turrets?

That's the thing. Everyone on here assumes that everyone plays only CTF. Therefore, when things like strike prices change, it affects TDM as well. I wish Hi-Rez would balance different modes with different rules...

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:41 am

Trilandian

Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:28 pm
Posts: 485

Re: Call down... turrets?

Xbob42 wrote:

Nice thought. Maybe (hopefully) past release they will.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:41 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: Call down... turrets?

I think this is a good idea, though they'd need to cost a fair amount due to how useful they'd be.

Maybe 5000 to call in a Mk.0 Base Turret, 7000 to call in a Gattling Turret (basically a large, rapid-fire Light Turret), and 9000 to call in a Flak Turret (which can only aim at airborne targets and fires rounds which detonate mid-air with a large radius)

The high cost means upgrading the normal Base Turrets is still a more effective use of credits for long term defence, but call-in turrets would make a good money sink for when the Base Turrets are already upgraded.

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Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green.
Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!

Last edited by DibbzTheLoner on Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:48 am, edited 2 times in total.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:43 am

supern00b

Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:24 am
Posts: 551
Location: New Zealand

Re: Call down... turrets?

I would agree on this being implemented ONLY in CTF.
This infact, would be a great way to replace the current strikes.

However the big lazor strikes should stay in TDM.

And no strikes in arena for gods sake......

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Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:44 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: Call down... turrets?

supern00b wrote:

This.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:46 am

blackchimes

Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 7:07 am
Posts: 1109

Re: Call down... turrets?

Should've went Airborne

I like call-in turrets idea as long as they're Manneable and don't work on their own.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:48 am

UnDeaDCyBorG

Joined: Sun May 29, 2011 8:48 am
Posts: 144

Re: Call down... turrets?

Strikes are acceptable and a good thing.
There.
I said it.
And no, there's no irony in that statement, just maybe a little bit of over-exaggeration.
In Pubs, teamplay isn't.
A Good defense is much easier to assemble than a good offense, let alone one coordinated with cappers.
As such, strikes are the only option to not let games devolve in boring stalemates, even if that means it's team rabbit for 25 minutes.
Now, orbitals, we can talk about that, but tac strikes are essentially the pub players juggernaut support.
If, one day, we get a broad base of at least somewhat capable players, proper reward accolades for clearing bases, and bombers to fly, I fully agree with you that strikes are possibly obsolete.
Until then, are are kind of required.

Nonetheless, the ability to call down deployables is a sound one.

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If you disagree your opinion is invalid.

Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:50 am

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