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Varnas Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 772 Location: Lithuania	Re: Falcon (Sent) Oroibahazopi wrote: FluffDaSheep wrote: Oroibahazopi wrote: I hate the way bullets travel from a dodgy angle and not down the x-hair. It's not realistic at all given anyone who actually uses a gun tends to line the sights up with their eyes and not shoot from the hip. I mean it's really intuitive to have bullets/projectiles shoot from the bottom right to the center of the screen. Intuitive for anyone but Quake players apparently. I share your hatred of eyebullets. With gusto. OT: Yes, I think the Falcon is too good. No, I don't care that ZProtoss is about to tell us all that we're just not good enough to take out pro Sentinels at point blank range. Erm, the italics were meant to emphasize sarcasm. I want eye bullets. I love eye bullets. My accuracy would be way higher with eye bullets. Again who actually shoots from the hip and expects any decent accuracy. im pretty sure all bullets go from the center of the screen,
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:36 am

Litego Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:12 pm Posts: 5538 Location: North Cape - Norway	Re: Falcon (Sent) In reality hip shooting only exist in Hollywood. Nobody f* hip fires real guns in a war, because it's f* retarded. In video games it's fine, but bullets should still come out of your eye. Also bullets come out the eye for the Falcon, but for some reason they do not from the Nova Blaster. Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs. If you can't kill a Sent in CQC the sent is just better than you. _________________ Lag spike + lag compensation = lols
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:43 am

Varnas Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 772 Location: Lithuania	Re: Falcon (Sent) Litego wrote: In reality hip shooting only exist in Hollywood. Nobody f* hip fires real guns in a war, because it's f* retarded. In video games it's fine, but bullets should still come out of your eye. Also bullets come out the eye for the Falcon, but for some reason they do not from the Nova Blaster. Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs. If you can't kill a Sent in CQC the sent is just better than you. Nova blaster is rather strange for sentinel, because its slow projectile speed, and ablity to bounce off walls seem to be perfect for indoor combat, when the falcon is outdoor fighting jsut seems strange to have nova blaster on sentinel, brute would make better use of it
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:46 am

Oroibahazopi Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm Posts: 1139	Re: Falcon (Sent) The one that really annoys me even though it's only visual is the BTX bullet trail.
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:48 am

Varnas Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am Posts: 772 Location: Lithuania	Re: Falcon (Sent) Oroibahazopi wrote: The one that really annoys me even though it's only visual is the BTX bullet trail. yes, it should go from the center bottom, looks weird when it goes diagonally
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:50 am

gloowa Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:58 pm Posts: 471	Re: Falcon (Sent) lawlertron wrote: SxxyKate is a troll. Nothing this person says should be taken seriously. As for the Falcon, yes, it is OP as hell. All of the autos are. The Chain Gun is the only one that is arguably not OP due to the simple fact that DMB has poor mobility. Along with the technician's auto which is balanced by the nature of the class, low health, and the fact that everyone uses the thumper anyway. I don't even want to tell you how many heavies I've killed 1v1 using the Falcon. I feel bad for them. Snipers in almost all FPS games have always been balanced by the fact that they were relatively weak up close. If you got close, you had the advantage. With the Falcon that really isn't the case in Tribes Ascend. You get close to a sniper? Better hope he doesn't see you, or else he'll use his superior mobility (light armor) and the Falcon to rip your face off. SNT's default secondary pistol is more like it. Hard to hit anything with, but still effective enough to be balanced. The Falcon is crazy OP. Agreed on most points, especially the first sentence, all SxxyKate does when someone suggests any Sentinel changes is tell them to learn to play. Anyway, in my opinion Falcon is not OP. Falcon on Sentinel is OP. On the other hand, if it were my decision, all automatics would get their damage halved. I mean, WTF, Raiders auto can kill 3 lights with one clip o_0 lawlertron wrote: Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs. no, it is not stronger. it has highier DPS. Doesn't mean it's stronger. lawlertron wrote: If you can't kill a Sent in CQC the sent is just better than you. Right. It's the ONLY explanation why people keep saying Falcon is OP for 2 months now - all Sents are demigods, with their skills highier than Olympus, and all of us nooby non-Sentinels should learn from them. After building a temple to their divinity, of course. _________________
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:51 am

FluffDaSheep Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am Posts: 473	Re: Falcon (Sent) Varnas wrote: im pretty sure all bullets go from the center of the screen, Yes, they do. Except the Nova Blaster's. What about the SN7 (inf pistol)? Also, in reality people don't fly around in jetpacks. Also, in reality your eye is not INSIDE your gun barrel. It might be slightly above the gun barrel, but then you would still see tracers traveling in an upward line rather than a dot moving away from you. Eyebullets are not realistic. Fine if you prefer eyebullets, but don't use realism as an argument for their existence.
Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:54 am

Whitewhale Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm Posts: 3556	Re: Falcon (Sent) all the top snipers in oceania agree falcon is OP cept the trolls like this statement Quote: Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs. nubs gonna nub
Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:00 am

wooser Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:07 pm Posts: 695	Re: Falcon (Sent) Thing is that a s* sent is likely to never hit a single shot of the blaster. s* sent then buys the falcon and can hit things reliably even if its weak, then likely wear the enemy down enough to kill them. They get a lot of mobility to do that with if they take the regen pack too.
Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:14 am

DearTyphoid Beta Tester Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:50 pm Posts: 659 Location: A nation of undertakers	Re: Falcon (Sent) Litego wrote: In reality hip shooting only exist in Hollywood. Nobody f* hip fires real guns in a war, because it's f* retarded. In video games it's fine, but bullets should still come out of your eye. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_fire :3 _________________
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Varnas

Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am
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Re: Falcon (Sent)

Oroibahazopi wrote:

FluffDaSheep wrote:

Oroibahazopi wrote:

I hate the way bullets travel from a dodgy angle and not down the x-hair. It's not realistic at all given anyone who actually uses a gun tends to line the sights up with their eyes and not shoot from the hip. I mean it's really intuitive to have bullets/projectiles shoot from the bottom right to the center of the screen.

Intuitive for anyone but Quake players apparently. I share your hatred of eyebullets. With gusto.

OT: Yes, I think the Falcon is too good. No, I don't care that ZProtoss is about to tell us all that we're just not good enough to take out pro Sentinels at point blank range.

Erm, the italics were meant to emphasize sarcasm.

I want eye bullets. I love eye bullets. My accuracy would be way higher with eye bullets. Again who actually shoots from the hip and expects any decent accuracy.

im pretty sure all bullets go from the center of the screen,

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:36 am

Litego

Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:12 pm
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Location: North Cape - Norway

Re: Falcon (Sent)

In reality hip shooting only exist in Hollywood. Nobody f*** hip fires real guns in a war, because it's f*** retarded. In video games it's fine, but bullets should still come out of your eye.

Also bullets come out the eye for the Falcon, but for some reason they do not from the Nova Blaster.

Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs.

If you can't kill a Sent in CQC the sent is just better than you.

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Lag spike + lag compensation = lols

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:43 am

Varnas

Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am
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Location: Lithuania

Re: Falcon (Sent)

Litego wrote:

Nova blaster is rather strange for sentinel, because its slow projectile speed, and ablity to bounce off walls seem to be perfect for indoor combat, when the falcon is outdoor fighting jsut seems strange to have nova blaster on sentinel, brute would make better use of it

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:46 am

Oroibahazopi

Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm
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Re: Falcon (Sent)

The one that really annoys me even though it's only visual is the BTX bullet trail.

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:48 am

Varnas

Joined: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:25 am
Posts: 772
Location: Lithuania

Re: Falcon (Sent)

Oroibahazopi wrote:

The one that really annoys me even though it's only visual is the BTX bullet trail.

yes, it should go from the center bottom, looks weird when it goes diagonally

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:50 am

gloowa

Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2012 7:58 pm
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Re: Falcon (Sent)

lawlertron wrote:

SxxyKate is a troll. Nothing this person says should be taken seriously.

As for the Falcon, yes, it is OP as hell. All of the autos are. The Chain Gun is the only one that is arguably not OP due to the simple fact that DMB has poor mobility. Along with the technician's auto which is balanced by the nature of the class, low health, and the fact that everyone uses the thumper anyway.

I don't even want to tell you how many heavies I've killed 1v1 using the Falcon. I feel bad for them.

Snipers in almost all FPS games have always been balanced by the fact that they were relatively weak up close. If you got close, you had the advantage. With the Falcon that really isn't the case in Tribes Ascend. You get close to a sniper? Better hope he doesn't see you, or else he'll use his superior mobility (light armor) and the Falcon to rip your face off.

SNT's default secondary pistol is more like it. Hard to hit anything with, but still effective enough to be balanced. The Falcon is crazy OP.

Agreed on most points, especially the first sentence, all SxxyKate does when someone suggests any Sentinel changes is tell them to learn to play.

Anyway, in my opinion Falcon is not OP. Falcon on Sentinel is OP. On the other hand, if it were my decision, all automatics would get their damage halved. I mean, WTF, Raiders auto can kill 3 lights with one clip o_0

lawlertron wrote:

Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs.

no, it is not stronger. it has highier DPS. Doesn't mean it's stronger.

lawlertron wrote:

If you can't kill a Sent in CQC the sent is just better than you.

Right. It's the ONLY explanation why people keep saying Falcon is OP for 2 months now - all Sents are demigods, with their skills highier than Olympus, and all of us nooby non-Sentinels should learn from them. After building a temple to their divinity, of course.

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Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:51 am

FluffDaSheep

Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am
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Re: Falcon (Sent)

Varnas wrote:

im pretty sure all bullets go from the center of the screen,

Yes, they do. Except the Nova Blaster's. What about the SN7 (inf pistol)?

Also, in reality people don't fly around in jetpacks. Also, in reality your eye is not INSIDE your gun barrel. It might be slightly above the gun barrel, but then you would still see tracers traveling in an upward line rather than a dot moving away from you. Eyebullets are not realistic. Fine if you prefer eyebullets, but don't use realism as an argument for their existence.

Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:54 am

Whitewhale

Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm
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Re: Falcon (Sent)

all the top snipers in oceania agree falcon is OP

cept the trolls like this statement

Quote:

Falcon is the weakest SMG while Nova Blaster is stronger than all SMGs.

nubs gonna nub

Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:00 am

wooser

Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2012 4:07 pm
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Re: Falcon (Sent)

Thing is that a s*** sent is likely to never hit a single shot of the blaster. s*** sent then buys the falcon and can hit things reliably even if its weak, then likely wear the enemy down enough to kill them. They get a lot of mobility to do that with if they take the regen pack too.

Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:14 am

DearTyphoid

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Re: Falcon (Sent)

Litego wrote:

In reality hip shooting only exist in Hollywood. Nobody f*** hip fires real guns in a war, because it's f*** retarded. In video games it's fine, but bullets should still come out of your eye.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_fire

:3

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