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pubD Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 9:14 pm Posts: 359	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible Signed. _________________ T:A - existence
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:07 pm

Litego Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:12 pm Posts: 5538 Location: North Cape - Norway	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible The graphs are class bound. A 2/5 on a PTH is not the same as a 2/5 on a DMB, this should be obvious. I'd like to see numbers too but leave the graphs, it's nice to have visual representation. However, change it from the 5 step thing we got going now and just replace it with an exact clean continuous graph. _________________ Lag spike + lag compensation = lols
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:10 pm

CmdKlaws Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:26 pm Posts: 49	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible Litego wrote: However, change it from the 5 step thing we got going now and just replace it with an exact clean continuous graph. I think this is the easiest solution, I find the 5 bar thing to be completely useless and has absolutely no meaning to me. What I'd love to see is exact specs for each weapon, with completely unnecessary values (for teh immersionz?) like weight, manufacturer, model number, etc etc alongside exact projectile speeds and rates of fire.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:16 pm

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible SenorRaoul wrote: This is still a game right? Finding out what the weapons do and how they work in game is fun! Looking at detailed spreadsheets and graphs is a chore you do to find flaws in the system, and depending on your type you either show them to the developers or you abuse them like a b**. Btw. show me the FPS that gives you spreadsheets and graphs, or actually accurate and detailed stats that reflect the ingame values . tf2. All of the unlocks tell you exactly how different they are from the base gun. You can also find all numbers listed on the OFFICIAL wiki. Basically all this s* is going to be on the internet readily available anyways, just cut out the middleman. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Tamburlaine Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am Posts: 1859	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible Litego wrote: The graphs are class bound. A 2/5 on a PTH is not the same as a 2/5 on a DMB, this should be obvious. I'd like to see numbers too but leave the graphs, it's nice to have visual representation. However, change it from the 5 step thing we got going now and just replace it with an exact clean continuous graph. A single shot from the brute's auto shotgun does more than twice as much damage than a single shot from his pistol, yet one gets 3/5 and other gets 2/5. A shot from the juggernaut's spinfusor is a 2/5 for damage and his LMG is a 1/5, yet the spinfusor does nearly ten times the damage per shot. There is a fifty damage difference between a round from the arx buster (600) and the grenade launcher (550), yet there is a 1/5 difference going by the bars. A shot from the eagle pistol does 25% more damage than the AR, yet they have the same damage rating. DOGS LYING DOWN WITH CATS, PEOPLE. _________________ oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:24 pm

SenorRaoul Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:56 pm Posts: 304	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible RootbeerAlamode wrote: the OFFICIAL wiki. which is entirely made by the players/fans.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:27 pm

neodymdnb Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:51 pm Posts: 156	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible I totaly agree but I wonder,will anybody from hi rez ever read this thread,will anybody care? even if everyone said its good idea,will it change anything?
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:32 pm

LDial Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 am Posts: 1085	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible HOW ABOUT WE FORGET THE STATS AND HAVE OUR f*** TRAINING MODE BACK. I AM STILL INCREDULOUS AND VERY ANGRY. Last edited by LDial on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:53 pm

angryreacharound Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:56 pm Posts: 131	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible neodymdnb wrote: I totaly agree but I wonder,will anybody from hi rez ever read this thread,will anybody care? even if everyone said its good idea,will it change anything? There is only one way to find out.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:54 pm

Tamburlaine Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am Posts: 1859	Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible LDial wrote: HOW ABOUT WE FORGET THE STATS AND HAVE OUR f*** TRAINING MODE BACK. I AM STILL INCREDULOUS AND VERY ANGRY. I referred to it as a "compromise", though in my ideal world, we'd have both. Also, I'd have a horse. _________________ oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer
Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:03 pm

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pubD

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Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

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Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:07 pm

Litego

Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 8:12 pm
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Location: North Cape - Norway

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

The graphs are class bound. A 2/5 on a PTH is not the same as a 2/5 on a DMB, this should be obvious.

I'd like to see numbers too but leave the graphs, it's nice to have visual representation. However, change it from the 5 step thing we got going now and just replace it with an exact clean continuous graph.

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Lag spike + lag compensation = lols

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:10 pm

CmdKlaws

Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:26 pm
Posts: 49

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

Litego wrote:

However, change it from the 5 step thing we got going now and just replace it with an exact clean continuous graph.

I think this is the easiest solution, I find the 5 bar thing to be completely useless and has absolutely no meaning to me.

What I'd love to see is exact specs for each weapon, with completely unnecessary values (for teh immersionz?) like weight, manufacturer, model number, etc etc alongside exact projectile speeds and rates of fire.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:16 pm

RootbeerAlamode

Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm
Posts: 1538
Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

SenorRaoul wrote:

This is still a game right?
Finding out what the weapons do and how they work in game is fun!
Looking at detailed spreadsheets and graphs is a chore you do to find flaws in the system, and depending on your type you either show them to the developers or you abuse them like a b****.

Btw. show me the FPS that gives you spreadsheets and graphs, or actually accurate and detailed stats that reflect the ingame values .

tf2.

All of the unlocks tell you exactly how different they are from the base gun. You can also find all numbers listed on the OFFICIAL wiki.

Basically all this s*** is going to be on the internet readily available anyways, just cut out the middleman.

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Inheritance Demonstration [video]
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Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:22 pm

Tamburlaine

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 1859

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

Litego wrote:

A single shot from the brute's auto shotgun does more than twice as much damage than a single shot from his pistol, yet one gets 3/5 and other gets 2/5. A shot from the juggernaut's spinfusor is a 2/5 for damage and his LMG is a 1/5, yet the spinfusor does nearly ten times the damage per shot. There is a fifty damage difference between a round from the arx buster (600) and the grenade launcher (550), yet there is a 1/5 difference going by the bars. A shot from the eagle pistol does 25% more damage than the AR, yet they have the same damage rating.

DOGS LYING DOWN WITH CATS, PEOPLE.

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oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:24 pm

SenorRaoul

Joined: Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:56 pm
Posts: 304

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

the OFFICIAL wiki.

which is entirely made by the players/fans.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:27 pm

neodymdnb

Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:51 pm
Posts: 156

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

I totaly agree

but I wonder,will anybody from hi rez ever read this thread,will anybody care? even if everyone said its good idea,will it change anything?

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:32 pm

LDial

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 am
Posts: 1085

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

HOW ABOUT WE FORGET THE STATS AND HAVE OUR f*** TRAINING MODE BACK.

I AM STILL INCREDULOUS AND VERY ANGRY.

Last edited by LDial on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:53 pm

angryreacharound

Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:56 pm
Posts: 131

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

neodymdnb wrote:

I totaly agree

but I wonder,will anybody from hi rez ever read this thread,will anybody care? even if everyone said its good idea,will it change anything?

There is only one way to find out.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:54 pm

Tamburlaine

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 1859

Re: Make Weapon Stats Visible

LDial wrote:

HOW ABOUT WE FORGET THE STATS AND HAVE OUR f*** TRAINING MODE BACK.

I AM STILL INCREDULOUS AND VERY ANGRY.

I referred to it as a "compromise", though in my ideal world, we'd have both.

Also, I'd have a horse.

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oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer

Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:03 pm

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