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Aepocalypsa Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:32 am Posts: 107	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] There's a HUGE hole in the map to the side of the slopes going down to the lowest part of the gen room. Can't post a picture, but its really obvious. Jumping in them causes you to fall through the map and eventually die. _________________ Ceterum censeo Inheritem centum procentum este.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:01 pm

GoFFe Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:37 pm Posts: 215	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] Maps over scaled and feels extremely floaty I was going 350 and it felt like I was going 150, with less gravity This map also shows that we need better and stronger jetpacks >_<
Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:05 pm

Platinumstorm Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:23 pm Posts: 169	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] This map is incredible, I actually felt like I was playing Tribes again, and then it went to Drydock and I ended up being really sad. The bases are awesome, the terrain is awesome, it feels pretty big, it has that aesthetic tribes feel - it's pretty much your best work. I would recommend seeing if you could make a team limit for turrets on the map, perhaps because that map seems to need more.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:11 pm

Tramadolol Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:47 am Posts: 610	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] GoFFe wrote: Maps over scaled and feels extremely floaty I was going 350 and it felt like I was going 150, with less gravity This map also shows that we need better and stronger jetpacks >_< This. Ok, my 0.02c now: - I actually think the map is way too big. - The textures/theme of the map is nice but i've big problems being able to see BE players on that terrain. - The Flagstand is one bigass turtlezone. 3x MK4 turrets + Dommbringers .. puke - The Genroom is waaaaaay too big. Especially considering what you've done to the Bella genroom. - The entrances to the genroom are placed quite badly imo. - the SPAWNPOINTS are in f*cking china yet AGAIN. I don't know how often we've to tell you this: MOVE THE SPAWNZONES CLOSER TO YOUR OWN BASE. It's really not that hard.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:25 pm

phanakapan Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:24 am Posts: 289	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] I've only been able to play it for about 30 minutes in roaming but these are the glaring things i noticed: the scale of the map is great. seriously. it is exactly the right size, but it is implemented all wrong. people have been calling for larger scale maps to give people more time to intercept return routes and to space out and scale up the action within the game. This map does neither. i was able to patch together a route that grabbed at 380 in literally 10 minutes. I'm confident we will see routes in the 450 range within a week. the mile high straight down mountains everywhere are really the worst idea for keeping the game balanced and promoting chasing. with the vertical hills everywhere letting cappers get such speed with ease and the large flat area around the flag stand, chasing is going to be tough or impossible altogether. there is no good place to start chasing routes and once you do you will crater into a lot of jagged hills. large scale is great because it allows more time for intercept, but the terrain itself is much too jagged and the terrain around the flag stand is bad for starting chase routes. i foresee the same boring sniper and shrike heavy defenses being a must on yet another map. the super high rock formations are going to make snipers pretty much immune to distract except from other snipers. the spawns are incredibly far away from the stand, gimping defense yet again. The turrets being raised like they are will make them difficult to kill for HO. This is a persistent issue in all the maps and it would have been nice to see it addressed in this maps design. with the scale and these kinds of annoyances I doubt we will ever see heavies on offense on this map. I like things about this map, but I already think it will need an overhaul to balance it out. the quickest fixes would be to mellow out the terrain and drop the height of the rock formations. I'm all for high mountains, but they should be used sparingly and purposefully to direct traffic in specific areas of the map. Think of exactly how the two high mountains on kata break the action into 3 specific lanes of traffic through the middle of the map. on the new map there is a high central mountain, but there are also high mountains at random all over the place and a whole lot of jagged verticals that break routes in random places. it just doesn't seem thought out. Last edited by phanakapan on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:27 pm

Wombo194 Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:31 pm Posts: 81	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] Very fun map, however: The size of this map puts more emphasis on stronger jetting and higher energy regeneration. Make it happen. The flag stand seems a bit too compressed, but I'm probably just not used to it. Visually its very bland and boring. _________________
Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:28 pm

bloodyritual Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:47 pm Posts: 363	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] I love the size of this map, but I feel like the bases could be farther apart. You can bomb through the flag, nitron jump, soar over the big volcano in the middle, and cap and there's no way in hell anything short of a sniper would stop you. I honestly don't even think shrikes could do anything about it. _________________
Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:01 pm

camel-toad Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:11 pm Posts: 119	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] This map renders heavy offense nearly useless. It illustrates even more than previous maps how gimped the mirv/mortar range is and with the turrets being posted so high up it makes using a mortar absolutely pointless. The interior gen room is a hopeless combat situation for anyone using a mortar or mirv and the lack of conduits make it a total death trap for heavies that enter. Overall I like the look of the map but gameplay wise I think the creator completely neglected all consideration of heavies.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 pm

GTWgOOse Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:46 am Posts: 239	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] The size is good. Just big enough to nudge nrg/projectile/player speed up just a bit without ruining the small maps. HAVOK!!!! A while back I was saying: The gameplay needs to evolve hand in hand with the terrain/maps. That is why it is so great to see HR stretching the legs of TA a bit. Good job.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:07 pm

BiscuitHammer Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 1:24 pm Posts: 355	Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF] Several of the repair guns are bugged and don't seem to work. I can go take a screenshot if needed.
Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:09 pm

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Aepocalypsa

Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:32 am
Posts: 107

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

There's a HUGE hole in the map to the side of the slopes going down to the lowest part of the gen room. Can't post a picture, but its really obvious. Jumping in them causes you to fall through the map and eventually die.

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Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:01 pm

GoFFe

Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:37 pm
Posts: 215

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

Maps over scaled and feels extremely floaty

I was going 350 and it felt like I was going 150, with less gravity

This map also shows that we need better and stronger jetpacks >_<

Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:05 pm

Platinumstorm

Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 7:23 pm
Posts: 169

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

This map is incredible, I actually felt like I was playing Tribes again, and then it went to Drydock and I ended up being really sad.

The bases are awesome, the terrain is awesome, it feels pretty big, it has that aesthetic tribes feel - it's pretty much your best work.

I would recommend seeing if you could make a team limit for turrets on the map, perhaps because that map seems to need more.

Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:11 pm

Tramadolol

Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:47 am
Posts: 610

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

GoFFe wrote:

Maps over scaled and feels extremely floaty

I was going 350 and it felt like I was going 150, with less gravity

This map also shows that we need better and stronger jetpacks >_<

This.
Ok, my 0.02c now:

- I actually think the map is way too big.
- The textures/theme of the map is nice but i've big problems being able to see BE players on that terrain.
- The Flagstand is one bigass turtlezone. 3x MK4 turrets + Dommbringers .. *puke*
- The Genroom is waaaaaay too big. Especially considering what you've done to the Bella genroom.
- The entrances to the genroom are placed quite badly imo.
- the SPAWNPOINTS are in f*cking china yet AGAIN. I don't know how often we've to tell you this: MOVE THE SPAWNZONES CLOSER TO YOUR OWN BASE. It's really not that hard.

Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:25 pm

phanakapan

Joined: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:24 am
Posts: 289

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

I've only been able to play it for about 30 minutes in roaming but these are the glaring things i noticed:

the scale of the map is great. seriously. it is exactly the right size, but it is implemented all wrong. people have been calling for larger scale maps to give people more time to intercept return routes and to space out and scale up the action within the game. This map does neither.

i was able to patch together a route that grabbed at 380 in literally 10 minutes. I'm confident we will see routes in the 450 range within a week. the mile high straight down mountains everywhere are really the worst idea for keeping the game balanced and promoting chasing. with the vertical hills everywhere letting cappers get such speed with ease and the large flat area around the flag stand, chasing is going to be tough or impossible altogether. there is no good place to start chasing routes and once you do you will crater into a lot of jagged hills. large scale is great because it allows more time for intercept, but the terrain itself is much too jagged and the terrain around the flag stand is bad for starting chase routes. i foresee the same boring sniper and shrike heavy defenses being a must on yet another map.

the super high rock formations are going to make snipers pretty much immune to distract except from other snipers.

the spawns are incredibly far away from the stand, gimping defense yet again.

The turrets being raised like they are will make them difficult to kill for HO. This is a persistent issue in all the maps and it would have been nice to see it addressed in this maps design. with the scale and these kinds of annoyances I doubt we will ever see heavies on offense on this map.

I like things about this map, but I already think it will need an overhaul to balance it out. the quickest fixes would be to mellow out the terrain and drop the height of the rock formations. I'm all for high mountains, but they should be used sparingly and purposefully to direct traffic in specific areas of the map. Think of exactly how the two high mountains on kata break the action into 3 specific lanes of traffic through the middle of the map. on the new map there is a high central mountain, but there are also high mountains at random all over the place and a whole lot of jagged verticals that break routes in random places. it just doesn't seem thought out.

Last edited by phanakapan on Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:27 pm

Wombo194

Joined: Sun Nov 27, 2011 2:31 pm
Posts: 81

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

Very fun map, however:

The size of this map puts more emphasis on stronger jetting and higher energy regeneration. Make it happen.

The flag stand seems a bit too compressed, but I'm probably just not used to it.

Visually its very bland and boring.

_________________

Wed Feb 22, 2012 6:28 pm

bloodyritual

Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:47 pm
Posts: 363

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

I love the size of this map, but I feel like the bases could be farther apart. You can bomb through the flag, nitron jump, soar over the big volcano in the middle, and cap and there's no way in hell anything short of a sniper would stop you. I honestly don't even think shrikes could do anything about it.

_________________

Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:01 pm

camel-toad

Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:11 pm
Posts: 119

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

This map renders heavy offense nearly useless. It illustrates even more than previous maps how gimped the mirv/mortar range is and with the turrets being posted so high up it makes using a mortar absolutely pointless.

The interior gen room is a hopeless combat situation for anyone using a mortar or mirv and the lack of conduits make it a total death trap for heavies that enter.

Overall I like the look of the map but gameplay wise I think the creator completely neglected all consideration of heavies.

Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:04 pm

GTWgOOse

Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:46 am
Posts: 239

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

The size is good.

Just big enough to nudge nrg/projectile/player speed up just a bit without ruining the small maps.

HAVOK!!!!

A while back I was saying: The gameplay needs to evolve hand in hand with the terrain/maps. That is why it is so great to see HR stretching the legs of TA a bit.
Good job.

Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:07 pm

BiscuitHammer

Joined: Sun May 02, 2010 1:24 pm
Posts: 355

Re: Map feedback - Temple Ruins [CTF]

Several of the repair guns are bugged and don't seem to work. I can go take a screenshot if needed.

Wed Feb 22, 2012 7:09 pm