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Tanathryn Joined: Sun Feb 07, 2010 4:01 pm Posts: 1617 Location: ABQ, NM	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH c0mad0r wrote: RootbeerAlamode wrote: roadbuster86 wrote: I can assure the DepthOfField value does not work as you might think, and I was not expecting it myself it does not have anything to do with actual depth of field as you would expect, if set to false it disables a LOT of effects try it yourself Yea, depthoffield definitely doesn't do what it is described. Turning it off gives the game a layer of haze. It seems like it has something to do with lightning mostly. DepthofField determines the focal distance of objects rendered within your PoV and tries to mimic how the human eye works; It has nothing to do with lighting (although lighting will intensify or mute the effects) and everything to do with blurring effect of objects at distances from your character "FOCUS_Position". Here's some examples of what it means that I just cannot describe any better: http://udkc.info/index.php?title=Tutori ... h_of_Field They definitely broke it. It used to work as how you described. As I was experimenting last night, I kept wondering why my lighting was going all weird like I turned off all the shaders or something and DepthofField was the culprit.
Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:14 pm

c0mad0r Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 604 Location: San Diego, CA. USA	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH RootbeerAlamode wrote: True on the left, false on the right. The only thing changed here was depth of field. I suppose that true is adding more clarity to the foreground, but false is removing clarity from everything and making the entire game look washed out and dark. And that is exactly what DoF is supposed to do: Make the foreground clearly lit and focused while everything else is muted and dull. This however can be offset by changing/turning down shadows and increasing lighting effects though. In any case, I made the OP to help people understand what the effects DO, not what they should be set as... My settings are my own and I just shared them as a "suggestion" based on my performance testing for best features + Max FPS gains to give people an idea of what they can set them to. The Spreadsheet is there to help you find the settings best for your game play style. _________________ Try My T:A TS3 Skin: Download Try My T:A Mumble Skin: Download (Mumble Note: Click "Download original" from top right or "File, Download Original")
Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:18 pm

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH Depth of field true seems to work as intended. Clearer foreground, muted background. Its false that is the problem, it just looks like ass. All of it, everything. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:09 pm

BrianNuTz Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:02 am Posts: 634	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH more split screenshots of settings that is most helpful
Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:16 pm

sfxer Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:38 pm Posts: 1328	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH I prefer depth of field false. Game looks so whited/blue-tinted out with it enabled. I don't get that muddy blank look that you guys are experiencing when you turn it off. Are you turning it off without disabling all of the other garbage in the engine along with it? _________________ -- LgN\|sfxer - Team Legion - #Legion on irc.tribalwar.com - http://www.the-legion.net --
Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:46 pm

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH I am running on mostly very high, with a few minor tweaks. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
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c0mad0r Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 604 Location: San Diego, CA. USA	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH sfxer wrote: I prefer depth of field false. Game looks so whited/blue-tinted out with it enabled. I don't get that muddy blank look that you guys are experiencing when you turn it off. Are you turning it off without disabling all of the other garbage in the engine along with it? Both tribes.ini settings and the video card type (ATI Vs nVidia) make a difference in how Depth of Field (DoF) is seen on ones screen. I too prefer it off because it adds too much detail and darkness for my liking. _________________ Try My T:A TS3 Skin: Download Try My T:A Mumble Skin: Download (Mumble Note: Click "Download original" from top right or "File, Download Original")
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FluffDaSheep Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am Posts: 473	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH This is very useful stuff, well done. Should be stickied imo.
Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:54 pm

Polish Joined: Fri May 20, 2011 2:02 pm Posts: 12	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH There is no manta here
Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:56 pm

sfxer Joined: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:38 pm Posts: 1328	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH I have a Nvidia chipset. With DepthofField=True find that everything gets very whited out/blue tinted on a map like Katabatic, and it's hard to see any other hues. DepthofField=False gives me better contrast overall. I also play with beyond minimal specs. Game still looks fine to me, but it's not eye-candy pretty. It's performance. Then again, I've played Quake 3 for the last decade and we play with less than DOS graphics, so... heh biased. I don't get off on graphics like the Calluhdooty people do. :> _________________ -- LgN\|sfxer - Team Legion - #Legion on irc.tribalwar.com - http://www.the-legion.net --
Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:57 pm

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Tanathryn

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

c0mad0r wrote:

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

roadbuster86 wrote:

I can assure the DepthOfField value does not work as you might think, and I was not expecting it myself
it does not have anything to do with actual depth of field as you would expect, if set to false it disables a LOT of effects
try it yourself

Yea, depthoffield definitely doesn't do what it is described. Turning it off gives the game a layer of haze. It seems like it has something to do with lightning mostly.

DepthofField determines the focal distance of objects rendered within your PoV and tries to mimic how the human eye works; It has nothing to do with lighting (although lighting will intensify or mute the effects) and everything to do with blurring effect of objects at distances from your character "FOCUS_Position".

Here's some examples of what it means that I just cannot describe any better:

http://udkc.info/index.php?title=Tutori ... h_of_Field

They definitely broke it. It used to work as how you described. As I was experimenting last night, I kept wondering why my lighting was going all weird like I turned off all the shaders or something and DepthofField was the culprit.

Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:14 pm

c0mad0r

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm
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Location: San Diego, CA. USA

Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

True on the left, false on the right.

The only thing changed here was depth of field.

I suppose that true is adding more clarity to the foreground, but false is removing clarity from everything and making the entire game look washed out and dark.

And that is exactly what DoF is supposed to do: Make the foreground clearly lit and focused while everything else is muted and dull. This however can be offset by changing/turning down shadows and increasing lighting effects though.

In any case, I made the OP to help people understand what the effects DO, not what they should be set as... My settings are my own and I just shared them as a "suggestion" based on my performance testing for best features + Max FPS gains to give people an idea of what they can set them to.

The Spreadsheet is there to help you find the settings best for your game play style.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:18 pm

RootbeerAlamode

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

Depth of field true seems to work as intended. Clearer foreground, muted background.
Its false that is the problem, it just looks like ass. All of it, everything.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:09 pm

BrianNuTz

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

more split screenshots of settings

that is most helpful

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:16 pm

sfxer

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

I prefer depth of field false. Game looks so whited/blue-tinted out with it enabled. I don't get that muddy blank look that you guys are experiencing when you turn it off. Are you turning it off without disabling all of the other garbage in the engine along with it?

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:46 pm

RootbeerAlamode

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

I am running on mostly very high, with a few minor tweaks.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:52 pm

c0mad0r

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

sfxer wrote:

Both tribes.ini settings and the video card type (ATI Vs nVidia) make a difference in how Depth of Field (DoF) is seen on ones screen. I too prefer it off because it adds too much detail and darkness for my liking.

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FluffDaSheep

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

This is very useful stuff, well done. Should be stickied imo.

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:54 pm

Polish

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

There is no manta here :mrgreen:

Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:56 pm

sfxer

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

I have a Nvidia chipset. With DepthofField=True find that everything gets very whited out/blue tinted on a map like Katabatic, and it's hard to see any other hues. DepthofField=False gives me better contrast overall. I also play with beyond minimal specs. Game still looks fine to me, but it's not eye-candy pretty. It's performance. Then again, I've played Quake 3 for the last decade and we play with less than DOS graphics, so... heh biased. I don't get off on graphics like the Calluhdooty people do. :>

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