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c0mad0r Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 604 Location: San Diego, CA. USA	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH dnkypnch wrote: ParticleLODBias= can safely be tweaked. HiRezEverett (?) iirc gave tweakable values a week or so ago. 0-10. you can test by setting zero and looking at the mortar or disc trails and also the 'size' of the tracers. setting 10 removes most of the trails and makes the tracers less blinding. the default setting is the unreal engine default. Only reason I had it set to "Do Not Touch" is because I did not know what the back-end values were from the Server and felt it best to leave it alone until until more was known. ParticleLODBias can really cause some stuttering issues if set incorrectly. If Everette gave values for it though, I'll update my list. Do you have a post by any chance? And thanks. FYI... setting a value of ParticleLODBias=-1 does incredible things to minor particle effects such as trails (jet and in-flight discs,bullets,projectiles). It's really helped my Bolt Launcher use out as I can see a long trail of the Bolt now. _________________ Try My T:A TS3 Skin: Download Try My T:A Mumble Skin: Download (Mumble Note: Click "Download original" from top right or "File, Download Original")
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:02 pm

dnkypnch Joined: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:32 pm Posts: 1285	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH uhm, idk search the forums for that string. i 'tihnk' it was everett but not 100%. someone with orange name gave values tho.
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:06 pm

thepoddo Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:54 pm Posts: 11 Steam Gamer Name: pod	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH I can assure the DepthOfField value does not work as you might think, and I was not expecting it myself it does not have anything to do with actual depth of field as you would expect, if set to false it disables a LOT of effects try it yourself
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:13 pm

BrianNuTz Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:02 am Posts: 634	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH what can i change to make the bolt trails more visible
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:17 pm

c0mad0r Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 604 Location: San Diego, CA. USA	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH BrianNuTz wrote: what can i change to make the bolt trails more visible ParticleLODBias=-1 Gives absolutely the best view of Pathfinder bolts for now. HiRez is still working on Particle Effects for minor textures, so there may be more tweaks to this in the future, but -1 works better than 0 for seeing bolts and other minute details. _________________ Try My T:A TS3 Skin: Download Try My T:A Mumble Skin: Download (Mumble Note: Click "Download original" from top right or "File, Download Original")
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:24 pm

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH roadbuster86 wrote: I can assure the DepthOfField value does not work as you might think, and I was not expecting it myself it does not have anything to do with actual depth of field as you would expect, if set to false it disables a LOT of effects try it yourself Yea, depthoffield definitely doesn't do what it is described. Turning it off gives the game a layer of haze. It seems like it has something to do with lightning mostly. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
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c0mad0r Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 604 Location: San Diego, CA. USA	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH RootbeerAlamode wrote: roadbuster86 wrote: I can assure the DepthOfField value does not work as you might think, and I was not expecting it myself it does not have anything to do with actual depth of field as you would expect, if set to false it disables a LOT of effects try it yourself Yea, depthoffield definitely doesn't do what it is described. Turning it off gives the game a layer of haze. It seems like it has something to do with lightning mostly. DepthofField determines the focal distance of objects rendered within your PoV and tries to mimic how the human eye works; It has nothing to do with lighting (although lighting will intensify or mute the effects) and everything to do with blurring effect of objects at distances from your character "FOCUS_Position". Here's some examples of what it means that I just cannot describe any better: http://udkc.info/index.php?title=Tutori ... h_of_Field _________________ Try My T:A TS3 Skin: Download Try My T:A Mumble Skin: Download (Mumble Note: Click "Download original" from top right or "File, Download Original")
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:35 pm

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH I can assure that is not what its doing in T:A. brb I will grab some screens. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:54 pm

RootbeerAlamode Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 5:01 pm Posts: 1538 Steam Gamer Name: D-Hearts	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH True on the left, false on the right. The only thing changed here was depth of field. I suppose that true is adding more clarity to the foreground, but false is removing clarity from everything and making the entire game look washed out and dark. _________________ 100% Inheritance, 100% Intuitive. Inheritance Demonstration [video] Tips for Aiming with 100% [video]
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thepoddo Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:54 pm Posts: 11 Steam Gamer Name: pod	Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH exactly. that's why I am taking this thread with a grain of salt. from a techical standpoint it's correct, but hi-rez might have implemented things differently
Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:09 pm

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c0mad0r

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

dnkypnch wrote:

ParticleLODBias= can safely be tweaked. HiRezEverett (?) iirc gave tweakable values a week or so ago. 0-10. you can test by setting zero and looking at the mortar or disc trails and also the 'size' of the tracers. setting 10 removes most of the trails and makes the tracers less blinding.

the default setting is the unreal engine default.

Only reason I had it set to "Do Not Touch" is because I did not know what the back-end values were from the Server and felt it best to leave it alone until until more was known. ParticleLODBias can really cause some stuttering issues if set incorrectly. If Everette gave values for it though, I'll update my list. Do you have a post by any chance? And thanks.

FYI... setting a value of ParticleLODBias=-1 does incredible things to minor particle effects such as trails (jet and in-flight discs,bullets,projectiles). It's really helped my Bolt Launcher use out as I can see a long trail of the Bolt now.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:02 pm

dnkypnch

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

uhm, idk search the forums for that string. i 'tihnk' it was everett but not 100%. someone with orange name gave values tho.

Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:06 pm

thepoddo

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

I can assure the DepthOfField value does not work as you might think, and I was not expecting it myself
it does not have anything to do with actual depth of field as you would expect, if set to false it disables a LOT of effects
try it yourself

Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:13 pm

BrianNuTz

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:02 am
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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

what can i change to make the bolt trails more visible

Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:17 pm

c0mad0r

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm
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Location: San Diego, CA. USA

Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

BrianNuTz wrote:

what can i change to make the bolt trails more visible

ParticleLODBias=-1

Gives absolutely the best view of Pathfinder bolts for now. HiRez is still working on Particle Effects for minor textures, so there may be more tweaks to this in the future, but -1 works better than 0 for seeing bolts and other minute details.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:24 pm

RootbeerAlamode

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

roadbuster86 wrote:

Yea, depthoffield definitely doesn't do what it is described. Turning it off gives the game a layer of haze. It seems like it has something to do with lightning mostly.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:25 pm

c0mad0r

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

RootbeerAlamode wrote:

roadbuster86 wrote:

Yea, depthoffield definitely doesn't do what it is described. Turning it off gives the game a layer of haze. It seems like it has something to do with lightning mostly.

DepthofField determines the focal distance of objects rendered within your PoV and tries to mimic how the human eye works; It has nothing to do with lighting (although lighting will intensify or mute the effects) and everything to do with blurring effect of objects at distances from your character "FOCUS_Position".

Here's some examples of what it means that I just cannot describe any better:

http://udkc.info/index.php?title=Tutori ... h_of_Field

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:35 pm

RootbeerAlamode

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

I can assure that is not what its doing in T:A. brb I will grab some screens.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:54 pm

RootbeerAlamode

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

True on the left, false on the right.

The only thing changed here was depth of field.

I suppose that true is adding more clarity to the foreground, but false is removing clarity from everything and making the entire game look washed out and dark.

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Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:06 pm

thepoddo

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Re: Tribes.ini : EXPLAINED IN DEPTH

exactly.
that's why I am taking this thread with a grain of salt.
from a techical standpoint it's correct, but hi-rez might have implemented things differently

Mon Feb 13, 2012 4:09 pm

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