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Patch Notes: October 8, 2010
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dual Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:07 pm Posts: 6354 Steam Gamer Name: EpicBroccoli	Re: Patch Notes: Oct 8, 2010 What was your full suggestion? _________________
Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm

jaradrabbit Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 1837	Re: Patch Notes: Oct 8, 2010 EpicBroccoli wrote: What was your full suggestion? viewtopic.php?p=347679#p347679 "Tag loot and resources that are generated in-map so that they can only be used on that map, by that agency, for that season. For example, ore mined from map Hax, in season six, by Hope would be called: Lvel 1 Ore - Hax-6 - HOPE" And they half listened. _________________ HiRezDuke wrote: I've forwarded this extremely important issue to every person on the team... A fix is being implemented quickly to eliminate this gruesome travesty of a nightmare.
Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:55 pm

SteamTrout Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:21 am Posts: 3448 Location: Land of Rainbows and Sunshine	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 The problem with your solution is that it will generate crapton of unique items which is simply not feasible for any kind of MMORPG which doesn't want to have its servers permanently down. _________________ No-skill Agenda Tauryll wrote: Frenzy wave is like sex in a convenient wave format
Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:06 am

DryEagle Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:26 am Posts: 808 Steam Gamer Name: DryEagle	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 an easier solution would be to make ore not be tradable between agencies. that way it doesnt need to have unique names because you can't move it out anyway. _________________
Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:23 am

lazyj Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:58 am Posts: 189	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 is it just me, or has raid difficulty gone up drastically since the oct 1 patch? i used to be able to win on raids pretty regularly but the last few teams ive been on haven't made it past the 3rd wave of enemies as the number of bots that spawn has increased greatly. its not uncommon to have 5 or 6 guardians in a single wave, backed up by multiple ants/spiders/snipers and a crap load of drones. it definately wasnt as tough as this before. if hirez thought the difficulty was too low previously then i can understand increasing it, but i think they've gone a bit overboard.
Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:43 am

SteamTrout Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:21 am Posts: 3448 Location: Land of Rainbows and Sunshine	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 It's not the raid difficulty. It's you getting double unlucky. Meleecons are bad for raid, m'kay. So are HH assaults. _________________ No-skill Agenda Tauryll wrote: Frenzy wave is like sex in a convenient wave format
Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:04 am

jaradrabbit Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 1837	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 SteamTrout wrote: The problem with your solution is that it will generate crapton of unique items which is simply not feasible for any kind of MMORPG which doesn't want to have its servers permanently down. ... but as I said in the full post, they get wiped at the end of every season. So it becomes a few hundreds item enteries in the database, max, every season. All of which are parented to master objects. Which from a game design point of view is nothing. _________________ HiRezDuke wrote: I've forwarded this extremely important issue to every person on the team... A fix is being implemented quickly to eliminate this gruesome travesty of a nightmare.
Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:13 am

jaradrabbit Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:35 am Posts: 1837	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 Ashimmu wrote: an easier solution would be to make ore not be tradable between agencies. that way it doesnt need to have unique names because you can't move it out anyway. Not a solution. One person can grab it and make the sacrifice of switching agencies. Then it isn't a trade. Believe me, I did the full impact analysis on this, there are too many loopholes if they don't tatoo it to the agency. _________________ HiRezDuke wrote: I've forwarded this extremely important issue to every person on the team... A fix is being implemented quickly to eliminate this gruesome travesty of a nightmare.
Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:16 am

Andur Beta Tester Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 7:35 pm Posts: 5835 Location: Spain	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 lazyj481 wrote: is it just me, or has raid difficulty gone up drastically since the oct 1 patch? Yes, but it's new players hitting level 30, nothing else. Specially, if your team has at least 3 recons and you're getting swarmed by guardians, it's their fault.
Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:15 am

dual Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:07 pm Posts: 6354 Steam Gamer Name: EpicBroccoli	Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010 If you have more than 5 level 30's in a raid, it's usually a loss. _________________
Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:31 am

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dual

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:07 pm
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Steam Gamer Name: EpicBroccoli

Re: Patch Notes: Oct 8, 2010

What was your full suggestion?

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Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:40 pm

jaradrabbit

Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:35 am
Posts: 1837

Re: Patch Notes: Oct 8, 2010

EpicBroccoli wrote:

What was your full suggestion?

viewtopic.php?p=347679#p347679

"Tag loot and resources that are generated in-map so that they can only be used on that map, by that agency, for that season.

For example, ore mined from map Hax, in season six, by Hope would be called:

Lvel 1 Ore - Hax-6 - HOPE"

And they half listened.

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HiRezDuke wrote:

I've forwarded this extremely important issue to every person on the team... A fix is being implemented quickly to eliminate this gruesome travesty of a nightmare.

Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:55 pm

SteamTrout

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:21 am
Posts: 3448
Location: Land of Rainbows and Sunshine

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

The problem with your solution is that it will generate crapton of unique items which is simply not feasible for any kind of MMORPG which doesn't want to have its servers permanently down.

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Tauryll wrote:

Frenzy wave is like sex in a convenient wave format

Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:06 am

DryEagle

Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:26 am
Posts: 808
Steam Gamer Name: DryEagle

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

an easier solution would be to make ore not be tradable between agencies. that way it doesnt need to have unique names because you can't move it out anyway.

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Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:23 am

lazyj

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:58 am
Posts: 189

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

is it just me, or has raid difficulty gone up drastically since the oct 1 patch?

i used to be able to win on raids pretty regularly but the last few teams ive been on haven't made it past the 3rd wave of enemies as the number of bots that spawn has increased greatly. its not uncommon to have 5 or 6 guardians in a single wave, backed up by multiple ants/spiders/snipers and a crap load of drones. it definately wasnt as tough as this before.
if hirez thought the difficulty was too low previously then i can understand increasing it, but i think they've gone a bit overboard.

Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:43 am

SteamTrout

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:21 am
Posts: 3448
Location: Land of Rainbows and Sunshine

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

It's not the raid difficulty. It's you getting double unlucky. Meleecons are bad for raid, m'kay. So are HH assaults.

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Tauryll wrote:

Frenzy wave is like sex in a convenient wave format

Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:04 am

jaradrabbit

Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:35 am
Posts: 1837

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

SteamTrout wrote:

The problem with your solution is that it will generate crapton of unique items which is simply not feasible for any kind of MMORPG which doesn't want to have its servers permanently down.

... but as I said in the full post, they get wiped at the end of every season. So it becomes a few hundreds item enteries in the database, max, every season. All of which are parented to master objects. Which from a game design point of view is nothing.

_________________

HiRezDuke wrote:

I've forwarded this extremely important issue to every person on the team... A fix is being implemented quickly to eliminate this gruesome travesty of a nightmare.

Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:13 am

jaradrabbit

Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 10:35 am
Posts: 1837

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

Ashimmu wrote:

an easier solution would be to make ore not be tradable between agencies. that way it doesnt need to have unique names because you can't move it out anyway.

Not a solution. One person can grab it and make the sacrifice of switching agencies. Then it isn't a trade. Believe me, I did the full impact analysis on this, there are too many loopholes if they don't tatoo it to the agency.

_________________

HiRezDuke wrote:

I've forwarded this extremely important issue to every person on the team... A fix is being implemented quickly to eliminate this gruesome travesty of a nightmare.

Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:16 am

Andur

Beta Tester

Joined: Tue May 05, 2009 7:35 pm
Posts: 5835
Location: Spain

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

lazyj481 wrote:

is it just me, or has raid difficulty gone up drastically since the oct 1 patch?

Yes, but it's new players hitting level 30, nothing else.

Specially, if your team has at least 3 recons and you're getting swarmed by guardians, it's their fault.

Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:15 am

dual

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:07 pm
Posts: 6354
Steam Gamer Name: EpicBroccoli

Re: Patch Notes: October 8, 2010

If you have more than 5 level 30's in a raid, it's usually a loss.

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Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:31 am