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Patch Notes: October 1, 2010
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Kfoolu Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 1:08 pm Posts: 14	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 Legedric wrote: What's the next step? Selling full level 50 toons in the cash shop? Say, that's not a bad idea! You should join Hi-Rez's marketing division. _________________
Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:24 am

ReMortis Beta Tester Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:03 am Posts: 87 Steam Gamer Name: ReMortis	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 While I agree that giving out fully free 2k/day tokens for doing NOTHING is a slippery slope. This definitely makes me want to purchase a booster. I just hope that they don't continue to expand the line between those with boosters and those without. _________________
Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:59 am

Gigahurtz Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:43 pm Posts: 26 Location: California	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 Since the patch, I can't seem to sell my previously equipped Rainbow Dye to the NPC vendors. Is it just me or did they change it so I can't sell it back? _________________ The Razer Gamer's Wet Dream!http://l33t.razerzone.com/index.php?user_dtl=28c179b9657112661b482a07af5daf8f
Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:05 am

Locked Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:58 pm Posts: 699	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 Gigahurtz wrote: Since the patch, I can't seem to sell my previously equipped Rainbow Dye to the NPC vendors. Is it just me or did they change it so I can't sell it back? I was under the impression only unbound rainbow dyes could be vendored. Might be wrong though. _________________
Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:51 am

Sansa Beta Tester Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:37 pm Posts: 4237	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 Locked wrote: Gigahurtz wrote: Since the patch, I can't seem to sell my previously equipped Rainbow Dye to the NPC vendors. Is it just me or did they change it so I can't sell it back? I was under the impression only unbound rainbow dyes could be vendored. Might be wrong though. You used to could sell bound rainbow dyes as long as you weren't wearing them at the time.
Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:26 am

DryEagle Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:26 am Posts: 808 Steam Gamer Name: DryEagle	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 you cant vendor stuff if it's equipped on any profile, even if it's not currently equipped. remove it from all profiles and it will be vendorable. _________________
Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:32 am

Taurondir Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:27 pm Posts: 348	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 My 2c about the 2k tokens a day with boosts: I chop/change games all the time. I make an attempt to squeeze as much fun out of a game in a short period, then usually take a break to another game. For example, I got a copy of MW2 not for the PvP or because I thought it was good, but so me and a mate could play the CoOp missions when hes around, while we waited for the next game, which ended up being GA, actually, as our group likes team based games (we are trying to get proficient enough in GA to start 4v4 matches) I dont see the 2k as bad, but I do see how older players might be annoyed at the idea. To me, as I have said before, getting a boost, was like a "thank you HiRez" thing, not a "awesome, faster level 50", I would of grinded the levels regardless. My only gripe is the need to balance this in another direction. I take it the star rating has a basis in trueskill values, so, in my view, players that have high trueskill values are likely to be old players (as in, from the start of GA), and ones that do a lot of "work" in GA, and it would be nice if they could get offsets in the way of more perks. If boosts owners get to get more gear with gift account tokens, high TrueSkill players should get better drops/rewards, better discounts etc, that way casual players can offset some grind with boosts, and help HiRez, and the good players can keep playing and test GA, and offset some grind via playtime/skill. I would have no problem knowing that high star players (if the system is working that is) had double chance of Rainbows or whatever, cause that would also become an incentive to try and raise mine. If not my idea, surely _some_ ideas of rewarding good play with more then flair has occured to people? _________________ MollyJones wrote: ... while keeping in mind that the "bah, just kill it" solution is frequently countered by "look, cramped space, crossfire / flame turret, oh-god-I'm-covered-in-drones." Yes.
Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:51 am

Randmer Beta Tester Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:12 pm Posts: 1895 Location: Moscow, Russia Steam Gamer Name: Plukh	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 Again, the issue is not the size of the reward itself (HiRez could've tripled current Booster bonuses, for all I care), but a fundamental shift in when players are rewarded. Previously, you had to complete a mission (even if you lose it) to get your rewards - this means that you did have to invest your time to get rewarded, standing still got you nothing, so to say. I see that I'm in a minority, though. No problem, I'll definitely live with this change, even if I don't like it personally, or I think that it's a major mistake - or, perhaps, an evil portent of the things to come . _________________ A more fun Defense Raid proposal Replace Perfect Target with Reverse Fission Bomb
Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:22 am

Gigahurtz Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:43 pm Posts: 26 Location: California	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 Ashimmu wrote: you cant vendor stuff if it's equipped on any profile, even if it's not currently equipped. remove it from all profiles and it will be vendorable. Yup the weird thing is that I unequipped it on all my profiles and I actually see it in my dyes in the inventory. When I try to click sell, it won't work and the dye is still there. :/ _________________ The Razer Gamer's Wet Dream!http://l33t.razerzone.com/index.php?user_dtl=28c179b9657112661b482a07af5daf8f
Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:43 pm

dual Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:07 pm Posts: 6354 Steam Gamer Name: EpicBroccoli	Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010 I should test this on my recon, I'm so poor... I'd have to re install Ga tho. _________________
Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:54 pm

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Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

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Kfoolu

Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 1:08 pm
Posts: 14

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

Legedric wrote:

What's the next step? Selling full level 50 toons in the cash shop?

Say, that's not a bad idea! You should join Hi-Rez's marketing division.

_________________

Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:24 am

ReMortis

Beta Tester

Joined: Sat Sep 12, 2009 2:03 am
Posts: 87
Steam Gamer Name: ReMortis

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

While I agree that giving out fully free 2k/day tokens for doing NOTHING is a slippery slope. This definitely makes me want to purchase a booster. I just hope that they don't continue to expand the line between those with boosters and those without.

_________________

Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:59 am

Gigahurtz

Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:43 pm
Posts: 26
Location: California

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

Since the patch, I can't seem to sell my previously equipped Rainbow Dye to the NPC vendors. Is it just me or did they change it so I can't sell it back? :?:

_________________

The Razer Gamer's Wet Dream!http://l33t.razerzone.com/index.php?user_dtl=28c179b9657112661b482a07af5daf8f

Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:05 am

Locked

Joined: Thu May 06, 2010 2:58 pm
Posts: 699

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

Gigahurtz wrote:

Since the patch, I can't seem to sell my previously equipped Rainbow Dye to the NPC vendors. Is it just me or did they change it so I can't sell it back? :?:

I was under the impression only unbound rainbow dyes could be vendored. Might be wrong though.

_________________

Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:51 am

Sansa

Beta Tester

Joined: Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:37 pm
Posts: 4237

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

Locked wrote:

Gigahurtz wrote:

Since the patch, I can't seem to sell my previously equipped Rainbow Dye to the NPC vendors. Is it just me or did they change it so I can't sell it back? :?:

I was under the impression only unbound rainbow dyes could be vendored. Might be wrong though.

You used to could sell bound rainbow dyes as long as you weren't wearing them at the time.

Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:26 am

DryEagle

Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:26 am
Posts: 808
Steam Gamer Name: DryEagle

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

you cant vendor stuff if it's equipped on any profile, even if it's not currently equipped. remove it from all profiles and it will be vendorable.

_________________

Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:32 am

Taurondir

Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:27 pm
Posts: 348

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

My 2c about the 2k tokens a day with boosts:

I chop/change games all the time. I make an attempt to squeeze as much fun out of a game in a short period, then usually take a break to another game.

For example, I got a copy of MW2 not for the PvP or because I thought it was good, but so me and a mate could play the CoOp missions when hes around, while we waited for the next game, which ended up being GA, actually, as our group likes team based games (we are trying to get proficient enough in GA to start 4v4 matches)

I dont see the 2k as bad, but I do see how older players might be annoyed at the idea. To me, as I have said before, getting a boost, was like a "thank you HiRez" thing, not a "awesome, faster level 50", I would of grinded the levels regardless.

My only gripe is the need to balance this in another direction. I take it the star rating has a basis in trueskill values, so, in my view, players that have high trueskill values are likely to be old players (as in, from the start of GA), and ones that do a lot of "work" in GA, and it would be nice if they could get offsets in the way of more perks.

If boosts owners get to get more gear with gift account tokens, high TrueSkill players should get better drops/rewards, better discounts etc, that way casual players can offset some grind with boosts, and help HiRez, and the good players can keep playing and test GA, and offset some grind via playtime/skill.

I would have no problem knowing that high star players (if the system is working that is) had double chance of Rainbows or whatever, cause that would also become an incentive to try and raise mine.

If not my idea, surely _some_ ideas of rewarding good play with more then flair has occured to people?

_________________

MollyJones wrote:

... while keeping in mind that the "bah, just kill it" solution is frequently countered by "look, cramped space, crossfire / flame turret, oh-god-I'm-covered-in-drones." Yes.

Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:51 am

Randmer

Beta Tester

Joined: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:12 pm
Posts: 1895
Location: Moscow, Russia
Steam Gamer Name: Plukh

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

Again, the issue is not the size of the reward itself (HiRez could've tripled current Booster bonuses, for all I care), but a fundamental shift in when players are rewarded. Previously, you had to complete a mission (even if you lose it) to get your rewards - this means that you did have to invest your time to get rewarded, standing still got you nothing, so to say.

I see that I'm in a minority, though. No problem, I'll definitely live with this change, even if I don't like it personally, or I think that it's a major mistake - or, perhaps, an evil portent of the things to come :-(

_________________
A more fun Defense Raid proposal
Replace Perfect Target with Reverse Fission Bomb

Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:22 am

Gigahurtz

Joined: Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:43 pm
Posts: 26
Location: California

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

Ashimmu wrote:

you cant vendor stuff if it's equipped on any profile, even if it's not currently equipped. remove it from all profiles and it will be vendorable.

Yup the weird thing is that I unequipped it on all my profiles and I actually see it in my dyes in the inventory. When I try to click sell, it won't work and the dye is still there. :/

_________________

The Razer Gamer's Wet Dream!http://l33t.razerzone.com/index.php?user_dtl=28c179b9657112661b482a07af5daf8f

Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:43 pm

dual

Joined: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:07 pm
Posts: 6354
Steam Gamer Name: EpicBroccoli

Re: Patch Notes: October 1, 2010

I should test this on my recon, I'm so poor... I'd have to re install Ga tho.

_________________

Sat Oct 02, 2010 5:54 pm