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Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010
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Wriith Beta Tester Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:32 pm Posts: 118 Steam Gamer Name: Wriith	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 Sycarius wrote: Wriith wrote: Senen wrote: No refunds. Live with it. Why? How does it make the game better for anyone to take that stance? Or do you just like being contrary? :X I don't really care either way to be honest, but it's just 5 days of play to get something else. It's possible that you might find a new use for it as they add new content. This is totally true. Hopefully there will be new uses for it when the new content gets added. Unfortunately that is going to be in 2 months. I'll live with it if there is no refund - I've been playing this game for 5 months now and enjoy it thoroughly. I just think that it would be a smart approach to allow refunds on tokens when there are such large changes, be it now or going forward with future balance patches. It couldn't hurt, could it? I mean, that is unless it would take undue amounts of development time, in which case I'd think most people would understandable say 'forget it'. shrug _________________
Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:23 pm

HiRezErez Hi-Rez Team Member Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:59 pm Posts: 3327	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:00 am

Hako Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:01 pm Posts: 2654 Steam Gamer Name: Hako	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 HiRezErez wrote: We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava. That'd be nice. _________________
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:08 am

Wriith Beta Tester Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:32 pm Posts: 118 Steam Gamer Name: Wriith	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 HiRezErez wrote: We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava. Thank you very much for the info Erez. I really do appreciate the fast response. I'll look forward to testing it out when its changed. _________________
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:10 am

Yakeru- Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 64	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 HiRezErez wrote: We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava. What the heck? A full heal full power renew is not a big influence on AvA? Did you ever try to kill any Kompaniet or Legendary Assault in AvA before? I mean, its better than the invul-imba-version, but still to strong imo. Refund would be so much easier and logical. Is it too much programming work to come up with a refund for nerfed devices? _________________ Rappmupp wrote: Isch habe eine sofa zu hause, und eine lampe!
Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:38 am

sauna Beta Tester Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:50 am Posts: 55 Location: Örebro, Sweden Steam Gamer Name: Kompaniet.sauna	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 Good that you're changing stuff and listening (somewhat) to what most reasonable people are saying, HiRez. But jesuswhatthefuuuuck, 2 dudes whining about SSB being worthless now in SOLO PVE, and you're gonna buff it again? Whiners: If you're mostly doing pve and do solo alot, how is the SSB not worth it compared to prot boost? God d***, people like you help destroy good games just due to your whining and moaning. Most of us other players are trying to SAVE the game with feedback that will help its longevity. AvA is the core of GA, people competing with people, don't come with your nonsensical rubbish about wanting the PvE portion to be even more easy mode. What good will PvE do GA when AvA dies out and people are leaving? The increase in open time to 2 hours is also a bad change, it doesn't help smaller agencies in any way. Try getting this: most of us that were active in the EU scene are just trying to get good fights again with low latency and balanced gameplay. I (my agency and I prolly could speak for most of Mpire/Rebel on this) could play this game for a very long time if we could just get that back. _________________ Leader of Kompaniet :: http://www.kompaniet.nu :: #kompaniet @ QuakeNet
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:20 am

Nomad Beta Tester Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:12 am Posts: 6042 Location: Los Angeles	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 HiRezErez wrote: We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava. No. Don't cater to PvE only players, they are ignoring the biggest parts of the game. Do you not understand that it is AVA that we are paying you $10 a month for? Not BS PvE which will be useless in a month when everyone has full epics and won't need to PvE anymore. Base your opinions of Assault boost around its PvP usages. Theres always some sort of exploit one can figure out in PvE, not to mention the fact that unless you're doing expert solo even ultra max is just ez mode with a competent team.
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:32 am

Fiftysixk Joined: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:27 am Posts: 942 Location: Vancouver BC Canada Steam Gamer Name: [PLC] BIGRED	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 -Nomad- wrote: HiRezErez wrote: We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava. No. Don't cater to PvE only players, they are ignoring the biggest parts of the game. Do you not understand that it is AVA that we are paying you $10 a month for? Not BS PvE which will be useless in a month when everyone has full epics and won't need to PvE anymore. Base your opinions of Assault boost around its PvP usages. Theres always some sort of exploit one can figure out in PvE, not to mention the fact that unless you're doing expert solo even ultra max is just ez mode with a competent team. I agree 100%, I left WoW after 3 years of playing because I was sick and tired of PVP being a side game to PVE. Global Agenda IS a PVP game, the mechanics suit it, the engine support it, the community loves it and you d* near perfected it. PVP should be your focus, don't turn this game into WoW, I beg you. What breaks s* is when you try to balance things between PVP and PVE, PVE is historically the one that suffers the least. Don't f*** it up by giving anything other than 100% of your effort into giving the best experience possible for the PVP community. If you have balancing concerns with PVE, change PVE! _________________
Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:54 am

sakucee Beta Tester Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:15 pm Posts: 32	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 Cryme wrote: HiRezStew wrote: The minimum time that an agency can be open for production has been changed from 1 hour to 2 hours. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. SERIOUSLY?
Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:23 am

Ruskoff Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:43 am Posts: 34	Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010 good stuff, thumbs up _________________
Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:34 am

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Wriith

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Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:32 pm
Posts: 118
Steam Gamer Name: Wriith

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

Sycarius wrote:

Wriith wrote:

Senen wrote:

No refunds. Live with it.

Why? How does it make the game better for anyone to take that stance? Or do you just like being contrary? :X

I don't really care either way to be honest, but it's just 5 days of play to get something else. It's possible that you might find a new use for it as they add new content.

This is totally true. Hopefully there will be new uses for it when the new content gets added. Unfortunately that is going to be in 2 months.

I'll live with it if there is no refund - I've been playing this game for 5 months now and enjoy it thoroughly. I just think that it would be a smart approach to allow refunds on tokens when there are such large changes, be it now or going forward with future balance patches.

It couldn't hurt, could it? I mean, that is unless it would take undue amounts of development time, in which case I'd think most people would understandable say 'forget it'. *shrug*

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Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:23 pm

HiRezErez

Hi-Rez Team Member

Joined: Thu Jul 12, 2007 3:59 pm
Posts: 3327

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.

Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:00 am

Hako

Beta Tester

Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:01 pm
Posts: 2654
Steam Gamer Name: Hako

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

HiRezErez wrote:

We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.

That'd be nice.

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Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:08 am

Wriith

Beta Tester

Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:32 pm
Posts: 118
Steam Gamer Name: Wriith

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

HiRezErez wrote:

We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.

Thank you very much for the info Erez. I really do appreciate the fast response. I'll look forward to testing it out when its changed.

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Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:10 am

Yakeru-

Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:35 am
Posts: 64

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

HiRezErez wrote:

We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.

What the heck?
A full heal full power renew is not a big influence on AvA? Did you ever try to kill any Kompaniet or Legendary Assault in AvA before?
I mean, its better than the invul-imba-version, but still to strong imo. Refund would be so much easier and logical. Is it too much programming work to come up with a refund for nerfed devices?

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Rappmupp wrote:

Isch habe eine sofa zu hause, und eine lampe!

Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:38 am

sauna

Beta Tester

Joined: Fri Jun 19, 2009 4:50 am
Posts: 55
Location: Örebro, Sweden
Steam Gamer Name: Kompaniet.sauna

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

Good that you're changing stuff and listening (somewhat) to what most reasonable people are saying, HiRez.

But jesuswhatthefuuuuck, 2 dudes whining about SSB being worthless now in SOLO PVE, and you're gonna buff it again?

Whiners: If you're mostly doing pve and do solo alot, how is the SSB not worth it compared to prot boost?
God d***, people like you help destroy good games just due to your whining and moaning. Most of us other players are trying to SAVE the game with feedback that will help its longevity. AvA is the core of GA, people competing with people, don't come with your nonsensical rubbish about wanting the PvE portion to be even more easy mode.
What good will PvE do GA when AvA dies out and people are leaving?

The increase in open time to 2 hours is also a bad change, it doesn't help smaller agencies in any way.
Try getting this: most of us that were active in the EU scene are just trying to get good fights again with low latency and balanced gameplay. I (my agency and I prolly could speak for most of Mpire/Rebel on this) could play this game for a very long time if we could just get that back.

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Leader of Kompaniet :: http://www.kompaniet.nu :: #kompaniet @ QuakeNet

Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:20 am

Nomad

Beta Tester

Joined: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:12 am
Posts: 6042
Location: Los Angeles

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

HiRezErez wrote:

We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.

No.

Don't cater to PvE only players, they are ignoring the biggest parts of the game.

Do you not understand that it is AVA that we are paying you $10 a month for? Not BS PvE which will be useless in a month when everyone has full epics and won't need to PvE anymore.

Base your opinions of Assault boost around its PvP usages. Theres always some sort of exploit one can figure out in PvE, not to mention the fact that unless you're doing expert solo even ultra max is just ez mode with a competent team.

Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:32 am

Fiftysixk

Joined: Fri Mar 26, 2010 11:27 am
Posts: 942
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Steam Gamer Name: [PLC] BIGRED

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

-Nomad- wrote:

HiRezErez wrote:

We are going to add a bit more to the assault boost to help PvE. May try to give the player full health and power as soon as it's activated to help out without a big influence on Ava.

I agree 100%, I left WoW after 3 years of playing because I was sick and tired of PVP being a side game to PVE. Global Agenda IS a PVP game, the mechanics suit it, the engine support it, the community loves it and you d*** near perfected it.

PVP should be your focus, don't turn this game into WoW, I beg you. What breaks s*** is when you try to balance things between PVP and PVE, PVE is historically the one that suffers the least. Don't f*** it up by giving anything other than 100% of your effort into giving the best experience possible for the PVP community. If you have balancing concerns with PVE, change PVE!

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Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:54 am

sakucee

Beta Tester

Joined: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:15 pm
Posts: 32

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

Cryme wrote:

HiRezStew wrote:

The minimum time that an agency can be open for production has been changed from 1 hour to 2 hours.

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.

WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM. SERIOUSLY?

Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:23 am

Ruskoff

Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:43 am
Posts: 34

Re: Global Agenda Hot Fix - 6/18/2010

good stuff, thumbs up 8-)

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Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:34 am