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UniversalPie Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm Posts: 619 Location: GTA Ontario	Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] Real indoor flag... even if temporary, brilliant! _________________
Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:07 pm

DEDRiCK Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:01 am Posts: 151 Location: Vancouver	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] It is too bad that it ended up being added for Custom Servers only first but it was to be expected.
Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:36 pm

UniversalPie Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm Posts: 619 Location: GTA Ontario	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] Well it seems that if they wanted to make generators more important... they figured out how. Thankfully this comes at the same time as fractal nerfs _________________
Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:01 am

GTWgOOse Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:46 am Posts: 239	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] From the preview vid it looks like a great addition. Keep em coming Kev. Dynamic flag stand .. Way to be. Stuff like this is welcome in "MY" new tribes. I want new stuff rather than JUST a remake but it is a very tricky thing to do and my feeling is this could work. I did find it funny that you said " I wanted a new look" "So I added GREEN crystals" I laughed, whats next ooooo purple ones. Truth is Im glad to see this kind of stuff, it kinda speaks to some new found freedom for you mappers over there. Like the big wigs finally said "yea fine do whatever lets try it" and let the mappers breath a little bit. Most likely Im wrong about that, either way it seems the maps are getting allot better. keep it up we need lots of em.
Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:59 am

cameirus Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:32 am Posts: 99	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] much better map than that other one. This one actually looks like some thought went into its design.
Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:50 am

Pawndemonium Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:00 pm Posts: 659 Location: at home	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] Good shot on that one, that frost theme has quite the reputation in T:A. Finally some different approaches required to get the flag, this really needs to be established on more maps. Need to play this one extensively for proper feedback, but well... the skybox kinda... sucks, it's LowRez, and that second layer below it, which has some stars on it is probably a left over. The mapceiling is too high in general, probably related to some routes, but it doesn't do the map justice when grabbing some stars. Having that skybox from Katabatic should do, it fits the map, and when you add more fog with a whole snowstorm it's a different setting aswell! =P Terrain seems to be a bit onesided aswell, aesthetically it looks too clean, with no clutter around, and the tunnel could need some more edges aswell to prevent having a view to the other entrance. A very promising map, but it shouldn't be deemed finished imo. _________________ Best Blog EU I'm posting that in a tuxedo suit, so you better take me seriously! "ululul I is right becuz Blizzard, hurr durr, proven proven ulul"
Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:24 am

Shrimm Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 pm Posts: 189	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] The moving flag stand needs to move back to be lined up with the entrance ways so there is still some way to not llama when gen is up. It would still be defensible but having gen down would be highly preferable to the enemy. Also the gen needs to change, currently you can completely keep it safe with one FF and a tech. Also you can bring a tank into the gen room fairly easily >.< EDIT: just to be clear I understand you're supposed to grab the flag and pass to the inc capper. But that shouldn't be the only way to deal with the flag when gens are up. EDIT 2: Here's an image showing what I mean exactly. Ignore the pro photoshopping Also the stand should probably be a little more to the left than that so it's not completely open to the two entrances. But a route through those entrances should still be possible if you have decent aim. Last edited by Shrimm on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:00 am

Newmz Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:44 pm Posts: 5055 Steam Gamer Name: newmz.tw	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] Shrimm wrote: EDIT: just to be clear I understand you're supposed to grab the flag and pass to the inc capper. But that shouldn't be the only way to deal with the flag when gens are up. why not? _________________ list of common GA abbreviations COMPLAIN ABOUT BAD SMITE TEAMS HERE HiRezErez wrote: Think of all the people who like to troll sitting in chat instead of in your match
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:05 am

TeodZero Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:44 am Posts: 80	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] Shrimm wrote: Also you can bring a tank into the gen room fairly easily >.< Like on any other map?
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:23 am

frekkerebba Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 8:07 am Posts: 29	Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF] To bad that the lv4 gen have way to much health and repairs to fast. At least change the lv 4 gen or make the gen in this map weaker.
Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:24 am

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UniversalPie

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Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

Real indoor flag... even if temporary, brilliant!

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Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:07 pm

DEDRiCK

Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:01 am
Posts: 151
Location: Vancouver

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

It is too bad that it ended up being added for Custom Servers only first but it was to be expected.

Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:36 pm

UniversalPie

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm
Posts: 619
Location: GTA Ontario

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

Well it seems that if they wanted to make generators more important... they figured out how. Thankfully this comes at the same time as fractal nerfs

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Wed Jul 25, 2012 12:01 am

GTWgOOse

Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:46 am
Posts: 239

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

From the preview vid it looks like a great addition. Keep em coming Kev.
Dynamic flag stand .. Way to be. Stuff like this is welcome in "MY" new tribes. I want new stuff rather than JUST a remake but it is a very tricky thing to do and my feeling is this could work.
I did find it funny that you said " I wanted a new look" "So I added GREEN crystals" I laughed, whats next ooooo purple ones. 8-)

Truth is Im glad to see this kind of stuff, it kinda speaks to some new found freedom for you mappers over there. Like the big wigs finally said "yea fine do whatever lets try it" and let the mappers breath a little bit. Most likely Im wrong about that, either way it seems the maps are getting allot better.
keep it up we need lots of em.

Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:59 am

cameirus

Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:32 am
Posts: 99

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

much better map than that other one.

This one actually looks like some thought went into its design.

Wed Jul 25, 2012 8:50 am

Pawndemonium

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:00 pm
Posts: 659
Location: at home

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

Good shot on that one, that frost theme has quite the reputation in T:A.
Finally some different approaches required to get the flag, this really needs to be established on more maps.

Need to play this one extensively for proper feedback, but well... the skybox kinda... sucks, it's LowRez, and that second layer below it, which has some stars on it is probably a left over.
The mapceiling is too high in general, probably related to some routes, but it doesn't do the map justice when grabbing some stars.
Having that skybox from Katabatic should do, it fits the map, and when you add more fog with a whole snowstorm it's a different setting aswell! =P

Terrain seems to be a bit onesided aswell, aesthetically it looks too clean, with no clutter around, and the tunnel could need some more edges aswell to prevent having a view to the other entrance.
A very promising map, but it shouldn't be deemed finished imo.

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I'm posting that in a tuxedo suit, so you better take me seriously!

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Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:24 am

Shrimm

Joined: Sat Feb 11, 2012 3:09 pm
Posts: 189

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

The moving flag stand needs to move back to be lined up with the entrance ways so there is still some way to not llama when gen is up. It would still be defensible but having gen down would be highly preferable to the enemy.

Also the gen needs to change, currently you can completely keep it safe with one FF and a tech. Also you can bring a tank into the gen room fairly easily >.<

EDIT: just to be clear I understand you're supposed to grab the flag and pass to the inc capper. But that shouldn't be the only way to deal with the flag when gens are up.

EDIT 2: Here's an image showing what I mean exactly. Ignore the pro photoshopping

Also the stand should probably be a little more to the left than that so it's not completely open to the two entrances. But a route through those entrances should still be possible if you have decent aim.

Last edited by Shrimm on Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:00 am

Newmz

Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:44 pm
Posts: 5055
Steam Gamer Name: newmz.tw

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

Shrimm wrote:

EDIT: just to be clear I understand you're supposed to grab the flag and pass to the inc capper. But that shouldn't be the only way to deal with the flag when gens are up.

why not?

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Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:05 am

TeodZero

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:44 am
Posts: 80

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

Shrimm wrote:

Also you can bring a tank into the gen room fairly easily >.<

Like on any other map?

Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:23 am

frekkerebba

Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 8:07 am
Posts: 29

Re: Map Feedback - Permafrost [CTF]

To bad that the lv4 gen have way to much health and repairs to fast.
At least change the lv 4 gen or make the gen in this map weaker.

Wed Jul 25, 2012 11:24 am