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illerFFN Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:52 pm Posts: 1174	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance WTF is going on with the Raindance Flagstand??? I kept seeing this crap where people were LAUNCHING straight up while smacking right into the front Archway on it and I just assumed they were exploiting some kind of Spin-Jumping mechanic to intentionally launch themselves that way but then it happened to me when all I was doing was gently floating back to the stand to guard it. It wasn't just a small increase in upward velocity either... Not making this up, here's exactly what the stats say happened when I accidentally hit that little piece of weird geometry
Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:47 pm

FelixTG Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 am Posts: 2245	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance That's just the Pinball mod they re-added to T:A. Working as intended. _________________ Youtube -- Beowulf Feedback Thread L.L. wrote: A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future.
Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:55 am

dsiOne Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:14 pm Posts: 327 Steam Gamer Name: dsi1	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance FelixTG wrote: That's just the Pinball mod they re-added to T:A. Working as intended. I just realized why Hi-Rez chose Tribes for its second money grab Tribes as we know it was founded on a bug Hi-Rez releases buggy flawed F2P games, grabs what they can, then moves on to the next game Instead of the game dying due to being terrible, like GA, the Tribes community fights itself over if these flaws are actually good things are not its the perfect crime. _________________ 100% Inheritance: It's 100% Intuitive and 100% Natural. \|\| Add Targeting Lasers Having to aim from a reference point that doesnt exist is not an intuitive or newbie friendly feature, and it will hurt the game in the long run
Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:11 am

Lesteriuse Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:39 pm Posts: 1726 Location: Zagreb, Croatia	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance dsiOne wrote: FelixTG wrote: That's just the Pinball mod they re-added to T:A. Working as intended. I just realized why Hi-Rez chose Tribes for its second money grab Tribes as we know it was founded on a bug Hi-Rez releases buggy flawed F2P games, grabs what they can, then moves on to the next game Instead of the game dying due to being terrible, like GA, the Tribes community fights itself over if these flaws are actually good things are not its the perfect crime. This is painfully correct. Take rock bouncing as an example. _________________ A thread on performance bottlenecks in the engine and what needs to be optimised My blueplate/mid-air nitron montage
Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:13 am

HiRezKP Hi-Rez Team Member Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:32 am Posts: 139	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance Let's keep these threads for map feedback only please. _________________ Tocs wrote: Just throwing another punch so the Dev team knows people still hate this map. This map is a poop.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:29 am

mifly Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:24 am Posts: 913	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance HiRezKP wrote: Let's keep these threads for map feedback only please. A bug on Raindance flagstand is definitely map feedback. Hope it will be fixed soon! I thought removing/highly nerfing rock-bounces in one of last patches was done as a side effect of general fixing bugs like this one. edit: that was accelerate patch: http://www.egmnow.com/tribesascend/trib ... tch-notes/ Quote: Fixed an issue that was allowing players to flat impact walls at high speed, and instantly move 180 degrees in the opposite direction with no speed loss or damage taken. This allowed for some game breaking front-to-front routes, and created a number of other gameplay related issues. This fix will have a heavy effect on rock-bouncing, a skill and strategy emerging from competitive games. We built in some tolerances to this fix that allow free bouncing at certain angles, and bleed less speed depending on the angle of impact. We will continue to adjust as needed. Rock bouncing is a feature we love, but the bug needed to be fixed for other extreme cases that were not to the benefit of the game.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:55 am

HiRezKP Hi-Rez Team Member Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:32 am Posts: 139	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance We haven't had a repro case for that so if someone could post a video of it so we can pinpoint the problem that would be great! We've made several changes to the collision changes to the meshes that make up the flag stand, so if the bug is still happening then it must be something else. I would really appreciate it if someone could upload a video of them consistently running in to this bug. _________________ Tocs wrote: Just throwing another punch so the Dev team knows people still hate this map. This map is a poop.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:29 am

cookiii Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:17 am Posts: 137 Location: Australia	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance The side walls of the flag stand in Raindance can become transparent and allow you to look inside the room if you are standing adjacent to it. I have attached the screenshot. Similar thing happens in crossfire too (didn't want to post another reply for the same topic). In Crossfire, standing on the nose of the ship and looking through the windshield literally allows you to see inside the ship (not sure if intended) You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. _________________
Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:50 am

Pilg0r Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:46 pm Posts: 160 Location: Timmins, Ontario, Canada	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance HiRezKP wrote: We haven't had a repro case for that so if someone could post a video of it so we can pinpoint the problem that would be great! We've made several changes to the collision changes to the meshes that make up the flag stand, so if the bug is still happening then it must be something else. I would really appreciate it if someone could upload a video of them consistently running in to this bug. Happens to me all the time. Will get some video tonight. _________________
Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:28 pm

Eldiran Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:26 pm Posts: 256	Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance On a related note regarding this bug, when you do end up going stupidly fast, it glitches out your profile in an amusing way. I once got shot into the air at 1100+ on Raindance, and now my badge screen looks like this: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594 ... 21AB428C3/
Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:16 pm

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illerFFN

Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:52 pm
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Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

WTF is going on with the Raindance Flagstand???

I kept seeing this crap where people were LAUNCHING straight up while smacking right into the front Archway on it and I just assumed they were exploiting some kind of Spin-Jumping mechanic to intentionally launch themselves that way but then it happened to me when all I was doing was gently floating back to the stand to guard it. It wasn't just a small increase in upward velocity either...

Not making this up, here's exactly what the stats say happened when I accidentally hit that little piece of weird geometry

Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:47 pm

FelixTG

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 am
Posts: 2245

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

That's just the Pinball mod they re-added to T:A. Working as intended.

_________________
Youtube -- Beowulf Feedback Thread

L.L. wrote:

A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future.

Thu Jun 28, 2012 1:55 am

dsiOne

Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:14 pm
Posts: 327
Steam Gamer Name: dsi1

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

FelixTG wrote:

That's just the Pinball mod they re-added to T:A. Working as intended.

I just realized why Hi-Rez chose Tribes for its second money grab

Tribes as we know it was founded on a bug
Hi-Rez releases buggy flawed F2P games, grabs what they can, then moves on to the next game
Instead of the game dying due to being terrible, like GA, the Tribes community fights itself over if these flaws are actually good things are not

its the perfect crime.

_________________
100% Inheritance: It's 100% Intuitive and 100% Natural. || Add Targeting Lasers
Having to aim from a reference point that doesnt exist is not an intuitive or newbie friendly feature, and it will hurt the game in the long run

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:11 am

Lesteriuse

Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:39 pm
Posts: 1726
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

dsiOne wrote:

FelixTG wrote:

That's just the Pinball mod they re-added to T:A. Working as intended.

This is painfully correct. Take rock bouncing as an example.

_________________

A thread on performance bottlenecks in the engine and what needs to be optimised
My blueplate/mid-air nitron montage

Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:13 am

HiRezKP

Hi-Rez Team Member

Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:32 am
Posts: 139

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

Let's keep these threads for map feedback only please.

_________________

Tocs wrote:

Just throwing another punch so the Dev team knows people still hate this map.
This map is a poop.

Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:29 am

mifly

Joined: Thu Apr 19, 2012 8:24 am
Posts: 913

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

HiRezKP wrote:

Let's keep these threads for map feedback only please.

A bug on Raindance flagstand is definitely map feedback. Hope it will be fixed soon!

I thought removing/highly nerfing rock-bounces in one of last patches was done as a side effect of general fixing bugs like this one.

edit: that was accelerate patch:
http://www.egmnow.com/tribesascend/trib ... tch-notes/

Quote:

Fixed an issue that was allowing players to flat impact walls at high speed, and instantly move 180 degrees in the opposite direction with no speed loss or damage taken. This allowed for some game breaking front-to-front routes, and created a number of other gameplay related issues.

This fix will have a heavy effect on rock-bouncing, a skill and strategy emerging from competitive games. We built in some tolerances to this fix that allow free bouncing at certain angles, and bleed less speed depending on the angle of impact. We will continue to adjust as needed. Rock bouncing is a feature we love, but the bug needed to be fixed for other extreme cases that were not to the benefit of the game.

Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:55 am

HiRezKP

Hi-Rez Team Member

Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 12:32 am
Posts: 139

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

We haven't had a repro case for that so if someone could post a video of it so we can pinpoint the problem that would be great! We've made several changes to the collision changes to the meshes that make up the flag stand, so if the bug is still happening then it must be something else. I would really appreciate it if someone could upload a video of them consistently running in to this bug.

_________________

Tocs wrote:

Just throwing another punch so the Dev team knows people still hate this map.
This map is a poop.

Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:29 am

cookiii

Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:17 am
Posts: 137
Location: Australia

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

The side walls of the flag stand in Raindance can become transparent and allow you to look inside the room if you are standing adjacent to it. I have attached the screenshot.

Similar thing happens in crossfire too (didn't want to post another reply for the same topic). In Crossfire, standing on the nose of the ship and looking through the windshield literally allows you to see inside the ship (not sure if intended)

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:50 am

Pilg0r

Joined: Fri Oct 28, 2011 12:46 pm
Posts: 160
Location: Timmins, Ontario, Canada

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

HiRezKP wrote:

Happens to me all the time. Will get some video tonight.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:28 pm

Eldiran

Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:26 pm
Posts: 256

Re: Map Feedback - CTF Raindance

On a related note regarding this bug, when you do end up going stupidly fast, it glitches out your profile in an amusing way. I once got shot into the air at 1100+ on Raindance, and now my badge screen looks like this:

http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/594 ... 21AB428C3/

Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:16 pm