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Transpersonal Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:27 pm Posts: 1083	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena miqueloz wrote: This map's pretty awful because of the jet pack mechanics, to be honest. Even if you're at full energy and you walk out of the platforms just an inch chances are you're dead. Yes. It was a fun map with T2 jets. With the state of jetpacking in Ascend, I'm not really a fan of either air map. Splash damage + knockback + horrible jets leads to too many deaths by falling. Even when you just barely maneuver out of a fall, you have zero energy and people can splash damage you with no difficulty.
Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:59 pm

cash4gold Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:01 pm Posts: 7	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena THis map reminds me a LOT of the classic UT custom map Forsakken Sky. That map was awesome in UT99, and then the remix in UT2k3 and UT2k4. Was really popular with the lowgrav instagib scene and a lot of remakes followed. By chance is that map the inspiration for this one?
Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:25 pm

thelastspace Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:01 am Posts: 19	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena cash4gold wrote: THis map reminds me a LOT of the classic UT custom map Forsakken Sky. That map was awesome in UT99, and then the remix in UT2k3 and UT2k4. Was really popular with the lowgrav instagib scene and a lot of remakes followed. By chance is that map the inspiration for this one? No the map was inspired by FlyingElmo's Tribes 2 map "Aeroena," and he originally was inspired by bomberman when making the map.
Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:06 pm

HiRezKate Hi-Rez Team Member Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:00 pm Posts: 791 Location: Dome City	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena thelastspace wrote: cash4gold wrote: THis map reminds me a LOT of the classic UT custom map Forsakken Sky. That map was awesome in UT99, and then the remix in UT2k3 and UT2k4. Was really popular with the lowgrav instagib scene and a lot of remakes followed. By chance is that map the inspiration for this one? No the map was inspired by FlyingElmo's Tribes 2 map "Aeroena," and he originally was inspired by bomberman when making the map. When originally doing this map, Bart gave me 4 pictures printed out on one paper to use as reference- 2 were of the original Bomberman map, and 2 were of the Aeroena variation. _________________ MagiCandyBar wrote: Soon.™ blackchimes wrote: WORST MAP EVER, TOO SMALL/TOO BIG, THE HILLS ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH/THE HILLS ARE TOO HIGH, THE FLAG IS TOO EXPOSED/IS NOT EXPOSED ENOUGH, SNIPEFEST, TOO MUCH GREEN/ BLOOM. YOU RUINED IT HIREZ
Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 pm

kavlo Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 26	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena Don't know if it's because I use the minecraft.ini but when I am in air firing to someone who is at the top of me I just can't know if i am still moving up or if i am falling. It made me fall many times. Maybe adding more details in the sky will make it easier to know where you are exactly and where are you going to. I mean if I there are some orbital balls (maybe you can say it's sensors) in the sky and I see this orbital moving up then I can think "OMG I am falling ! Look down Kavlo or you won't lend on a platform". Do you think it's a good idea to add it ? PS : If someone doesn't understand i can try to explain it with other words. sorry for my english :S
Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:30 pm

Casus125 Beta Tester Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:31 am Posts: 293	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena kavlo wrote: Don't know if it's because I use the minecraft.ini but when I am in air firing to someone who is at the top of me I just can't know if i am still moving up or if i am falling. It made me fall many times. Maybe adding more details in the sky will make it easier to know where you are exactly and where are you going to. I mean if I there are some orbital balls (maybe you can say it's sensors) in the sky and I see this orbital moving up then I can think "OMG I am falling ! Look down Kavlo or you won't lend on a platform". Do you think it's a good idea to add it ? PS : If someone doesn't understand i can try to explain it with other words. sorry for my english :S Don't look up when falling / get a better sense of where you are.
Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:57 pm

kavlo Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 26	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena I look up to shoot someone. And at this moment I don't even know i am falling so I just can't use your advice. These "things" in the sky are here to tell you "You are falling".
Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:41 pm

Casus125 Beta Tester Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:31 am Posts: 293	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena kavlo wrote: I look up to shoot someone. And at this moment I don't even know i am falling so I just can't use your advice. These "things" in the sky are here to tell you "You are falling". But if you can't tell you're falling by the fact that your target is getting further away/you're out of energy/game sense, how would another object better facilitate that?
Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:44 pm

kavlo Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am Posts: 26	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena In fact, the two times when i fell in the void without knowing it, the ennemy was falling too. but he wasn't straight at top of me so he lend on a platform. I think it will facilitate it because these objects won't move.
Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:18 pm

Nahksuirebit Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:19 am Posts: 18	Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena HiRezKate wrote: When originally doing this map, Bart gave me 4 pictures printed out on one paper to use as reference- 2 were of the original Bomberman map, and 2 were of the Aeroena variation. And so naturally you didn't think to go into T2 to get a firsthand look at aeroena yourself? Is this seriously the person making these maps? People like FlyingElmo cranked out originals and remakes of T1 maps that were more accurate AND at a faster pace for free. What exactly are they paying you for again? Oh and lol that you deleted my post about you renaming "aeroena" to "air arena."
Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:53 pm

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Transpersonal

Joined: Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:27 pm
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Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

miqueloz wrote:

This map's pretty awful because of the jet pack mechanics, to be honest. Even if you're at full energy and you walk out of the platforms just an inch chances are you're dead.

Yes. It was a fun map with T2 jets. With the state of jetpacking in Ascend, I'm not really a fan of either air map. Splash damage + knockback + horrible jets leads to too many deaths by falling. Even when you just barely maneuver out of a fall, you have zero energy and people can splash damage you with no difficulty.

Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:59 pm

cash4gold

Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:01 pm
Posts: 7

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

THis map reminds me a LOT of the classic UT custom map Forsakken Sky. That map was awesome in UT99, and then the remix in UT2k3 and UT2k4. Was really popular with the lowgrav instagib scene and a lot of remakes followed.

By chance is that map the inspiration for this one?

Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:25 pm

thelastspace

Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:01 am
Posts: 19

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

cash4gold wrote:

No the map was inspired by FlyingElmo's Tribes 2 map "Aeroena," and he originally was inspired by bomberman when making the map.

Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:06 pm

HiRezKate

Hi-Rez Team Member

Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:00 pm
Posts: 791
Location: Dome City

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

thelastspace wrote:

cash4gold wrote:

No the map was inspired by FlyingElmo's Tribes 2 map "Aeroena," and he originally was inspired by bomberman when making the map.

When originally doing this map, Bart gave me 4 pictures printed out on one paper to use as reference- 2 were of the original Bomberman map, and 2 were of the Aeroena variation. :lol:

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Soon.™

blackchimes wrote:

WORST MAP EVER, TOO SMALL/TOO BIG, THE HILLS ARE NOT HIGH ENOUGH/THE HILLS ARE TOO HIGH, THE FLAG IS TOO EXPOSED/IS NOT EXPOSED ENOUGH, SNIPEFEST, TOO MUCH GREEN/ BLOOM. YOU RUINED IT HIREZ

Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:52 pm

kavlo

Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am
Posts: 26

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

Don't know if it's because I use the minecraft.ini but when I am in air firing to someone who is at the top of me I just can't know if i am still moving up or if i am falling. It made me fall many times.

Maybe adding more details in the sky will make it easier to know where you are exactly and where are you going to.
I mean if I there are some orbital balls (maybe you can say it's sensors) in the sky and I see this orbital moving up then I can think "OMG I am falling ! Look down Kavlo or you won't lend on a platform".

Do you think it's a good idea to add it ?

PS : If someone doesn't understand i can try to explain it with other words. sorry for my english :S

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:30 pm

Casus125

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Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:31 am
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Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

kavlo wrote:

Don't look up when falling / get a better sense of where you are.

Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:57 pm

kavlo

Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am
Posts: 26

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

I look up to shoot someone.
And at this moment I don't even know i am falling so I just can't use your advice.
These "things" in the sky are here to tell you "You are falling".

Thu Jun 14, 2012 1:41 pm

Casus125

Beta Tester

Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:31 am
Posts: 293

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

kavlo wrote:

I look up to shoot someone.
And at this moment I don't even know i am falling so I just can't use your advice.
These "things" in the sky are here to tell you "You are falling".

But if you can't tell you're falling by the fact that your target is getting further away/you're out of energy/game sense, how would another object better facilitate that?

Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:44 pm

kavlo

Joined: Thu May 17, 2012 9:08 am
Posts: 26

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

In fact, the two times when i fell in the void without knowing it, the ennemy was falling too. but he wasn't straight at top of me so he lend on a platform.

I think it will facilitate it because these objects won't move.

Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:18 pm

Nahksuirebit

Joined: Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:19 am
Posts: 18

Re: Map Feedback - Air Arena

HiRezKate wrote:

When originally doing this map, Bart gave me 4 pictures printed out on one paper to use as reference- 2 were of the original Bomberman map, and 2 were of the Aeroena variation. :lol:

And so naturally you didn't think to go into T2 to get a firsthand look at aeroena yourself? Is this seriously the person making these maps? People like FlyingElmo cranked out originals and remakes of T1 maps that were more accurate AND at a faster pace for free. What exactly are they paying you for again?

Oh and lol that you deleted my post about you renaming "aeroena" to "air arena."

Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:53 pm