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Doraball Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am Posts: 400	[Hopeless Request] Static Meshes So, a small group of us are going to make a map for T:A using UDK. We have a hopeless dream of someday porting it in to a proper T:A format. Also, we intend to simply give the map to hi-rez free of charge when we complete it(assuming we finish it, we're in very early stages and just planning layout and art style right now). Having said this, is there any chance of getting access to use of the T:A static meshes, under a some kind of license that allows us to develop with them under the condition that anything containing them is hi-rez's intellectual property or something? It would be nice and help us make a map that's more in keeping with the artistic direction currently employed in TA, but, if not, we'll make what we can, and it will be yours to use if you like, Hi-Rez. Toodle pip, And no, I don't actually except a reply.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:48 am

Aldaron07 Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 944	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes TIP: The Unreal Editor's package system is not forwards-compatible. Without modifying the package system, it is not possible to open a package that was created/saved in a version newer than the one you are using. If you were to create a package using the latest UDK release, Hi-Rez would likely not be able to open it with the Unreal Editor they use for T:A. The package version used by Tribes: Ascend and the January 2011 UDK release are exact matches (PackageVersion 805), minus the LicenseePackageVersion flag (licensed users get LicenseePackageVersion 2 while the UDK can only open "0"). They should be able to open any packages created with the January 2011 version or older with next to no difficulties.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:33 pm

Doraball Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am Posts: 400	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes Aldaron07 wrote: TIP: The Unreal Editor's package system is not forwards-compatible. Without modifying the package system, it is not possible to open a package that was created/saved in a version newer than the one you are using. If you were to create a package using the latest UDK release, Hi-Rez would likely not be able to open it with the Unreal Editor they use for T:A. The package version used by Tribes: Ascend and the January 2011 UDK release are exact matches (PackageVersion 805), minus the LicenseePackageVersion flag (licensed users get LicenseePackageVersion 2 while the UDK can only open "0"). They should be able to open any packages created with the January 2011 version or older with next to no difficulties. Thanks for the heads up, I guess I'll install an older version of UDK.
Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:46 pm

FelixTG Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 am Posts: 2245	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes Guess we'll just need to roll our own meshes. _________________ Youtube -- Beowulf Feedback Thread L.L. wrote: A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future.
Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:37 pm

Doraball Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am Posts: 400	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes FelixTG wrote: Guess we'll just need to roll our own meshes. Lookin' that way.
Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:51 pm

Aldaron07 Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 944	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes It was a super long shot without signing several contracts. They say "Maybe later" on things like this, but in all honesty, it's not likely.
Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:01 am

Doraball Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am Posts: 400	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes Aldaron07 wrote: It was a super long shot without signing several contracts. They say "Maybe later" on things like this, but in all honesty, it's not likely. We're completely fine with signing contracts guaranteeing them ownership. Also, I'm gonna use this thread to present updates to the project for anyone interested. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:12 am

Doraball Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am Posts: 400	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes A view from the ground as terrain starts to take shape.
Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:35 pm

Wobberjockey Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am Posts: 8726 Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes Doraball wrote: Aldaron07 wrote: It was a super long shot without signing several contracts. They say "Maybe later" on things like this, but in all honesty, it's not likely. We're completely fine with signing contracts guaranteeing them ownership. my understand was that HiRez would have to sign the contracts with epic, not you having to sign a contract with hi rez could be wrong though _________________ original art at http://tinyurl.com/shazbotsig The Tribes READ ME. Quite possibly the most important thread you'll never read
Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Aldaron07 Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:38 am Posts: 944	Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes Wobberjockey wrote: my understand was that HiRez would have to sign the contracts with epic, not you having to sign a contract with hi rez could be wrong though Quite the opposite if the packages are meant for the UDK as described. Epic Games would have no involvement if it was just Hi-Rez Studios giving Tribes: Ascend assets into the hands of a few community members. They would do all they legally could to keep them from being distributed beyond those few if they actually went/go for the idea. It's not beyond the realm of possibility. People were planning and building mods/maps/skins/whatever for Red Orchestra 2 using a specific UDK release long before the game was in any playable form outside Tripwire Interactive.
Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:13 pm

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Doraball

Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am
Posts: 400

[Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

So, a small group of us are going to make a map for T:A using UDK. We have a hopeless dream of someday porting it in to a proper T:A format. Also, we intend to simply give the map to hi-rez free of charge when we complete it(assuming we finish it, we're in very early stages and just planning layout and art style right now).

Having said this, is there any chance of getting access to use of the T:A static meshes, under a some kind of license that allows us to develop with them under the condition that anything containing them is hi-rez's intellectual property or something?

It would be nice and help us make a map that's more in keeping with the artistic direction currently employed in TA, but, if not, we'll make what we can, and it will be yours to use if you like, Hi-Rez.

Toodle pip, And no, I don't actually except a reply.

Sat Nov 19, 2011 11:48 am

Aldaron07

Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 944

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

TIP: The Unreal Editor's package system is not forwards-compatible. Without modifying the package system, it is not possible to open a package that was created/saved in a version newer than the one you are using. If you were to create a package using the latest UDK release, Hi-Rez would likely not be able to open it with the Unreal Editor they use for T:A.

The package version used by Tribes: Ascend and the January 2011 UDK release are exact matches (PackageVersion 805), minus the LicenseePackageVersion flag (licensed users get LicenseePackageVersion 2 while the UDK can only open "0"). They should be able to open any packages created with the January 2011 version or older with next to no difficulties.

Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:33 pm

Doraball

Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am
Posts: 400

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

Aldaron07 wrote:

Thanks for the heads up, I guess I'll install an older version of UDK.

Sat Nov 19, 2011 3:46 pm

FelixTG

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 am
Posts: 2245

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

Guess we'll just need to roll our own meshes.

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Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:37 pm

Doraball

Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am
Posts: 400

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

FelixTG wrote:

Guess we'll just need to roll our own meshes.

Lookin' that way.

Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:51 pm

Aldaron07

Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 944

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

It was a super long shot without signing several contracts.

They say "Maybe later" on things like this, but in all honesty, it's not likely.

Tue Nov 22, 2011 12:01 am

Doraball

Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am
Posts: 400

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

Aldaron07 wrote:

It was a super long shot without signing several contracts.

They say "Maybe later" on things like this, but in all honesty, it's not likely.

We're completely fine with signing contracts guaranteeing them ownership. Also, I'm gonna use this thread to present updates to the project for anyone interested.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:12 am

Doraball

Joined: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:09 am
Posts: 400

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

A view from the ground as terrain starts to take shape.

Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:35 pm

Wobberjockey

Beta Tester

Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am
Posts: 8726
Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

Doraball wrote:

Aldaron07 wrote:

It was a super long shot without signing several contracts.

They say "Maybe later" on things like this, but in all honesty, it's not likely.

We're completely fine with signing contracts guaranteeing them ownership.

my understand was that HiRez would have to sign the contracts with epic, not you having to sign a contract with hi rez

could be wrong though

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Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Aldaron07

Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:38 am
Posts: 944

Re: [Hopeless Request] Static Meshes

Wobberjockey wrote:

my understand was that HiRez would have to sign the contracts with epic, not you having to sign a contract with hi rez

could be wrong though

Quite the opposite if the packages are meant for the UDK as described. Epic Games would have no involvement if it was just Hi-Rez Studios giving Tribes: Ascend assets into the hands of a few community members. They would do all they legally could to keep them from being distributed beyond those few if they actually went/go for the idea.

It's not beyond the realm of possibility. People were planning and building mods/maps/skins/whatever for Red Orchestra 2 using a specific UDK release long before the game was in any playable form outside Tripwire Interactive.

Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:13 pm