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Cyberlink Community Agent Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm Posts: 3058 Location: Dallas, TX USA Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119	DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Read this, vote here, and see the poll feedback here. _________________ I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates. Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148
Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:07 pm

dhmrs Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:03 pm Posts: 42	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" I like the decreased falloff. Would recommend making Phase clip 2 shots and SAP 1 shot, just to give a reason to still use phase (Not that anyone does atm, but it would be better than keeping it dead content). _________________
Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:30 pm

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4870 Location: NA East	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Contributed. I think the scope requirement and charge mechanic have a lot to do with entry level players having difficulty with sniping, and though this doesn't effect me, or games I think are important, I think it does have a negative effect on new player retention. The only other sub note, would be I do like the idea of energy in both energy rifles correlating directly to damage, IE: Who's going to use the PR if it does less damage for the same amount of energy? I feel like this should be implied, but that's kind of how the poll/blog was worded, since he lumped them by class of rifle. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:40 pm

Cyberlink Community Agent Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm Posts: 3058 Location: Dallas, TX USA Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Nice response pool so far. _________________ I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates. Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148
Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:48 pm

Macavity Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:59 am Posts: 45	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Without having looked at the poll or the results, I'll just say that you can't make huge balance changes by having a poll on these forums. If HiRez balanced this game around what people voted for, we'd all be running around with autos doing 10 damage. I hope you take this into consideration, HiRez.
Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:23 pm

Spacecadet2323 Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:48 pm Posts: 6	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Once again low rez has failed to consider counter play. LETS FIX THE SNIPEERRRR HURR DURRR but lets not consider what it will be like to play against. In public games they are already a kill stealing menace they should really fix that, explain to me why the person who does 99% damage to someone only gets the assist when a F*&k tard sniper will pew pew his last 10 hp and get the kill credit ?
Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:35 pm

Cyberlink Community Agent Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm Posts: 3058 Location: Dallas, TX USA Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Macavity wrote: Without having looked at the poll or the results, I'll just say that you can't make huge balance changes by having a poll on these forums. If HiRez balanced this game around what people voted for, we'd all be running around with autos doing 10 damage. I hope you take this into consideration, HiRez. Clearly, these votes do not make up the majority of the final decision. Game changes are derived from: Server metrics Player feedback Internal testing This is simply to help out the dev in question view quantified feedback from the forums. Just something I do as a CA to help them out on my own behalf. _________________ I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates. Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148
Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:36 pm

Horridius Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:30 pm Posts: 745	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" Spacecadet2323 wrote: In public games they are already a kill stealing menace they should really fix that, explain to me why the person who does 99% damage to someone only gets the assist when a F*&k tard sniper will pew pew his last 10 hp and get the kill credit ? You do realise that with this change the kill stealing is going to nerfed ... More damage, less RoF -> Less spamming shots -> Less chances to steal kills. It seems you weren't thinking at all. Ignore this guy people, please move on.
Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:46 pm

Spacecadet2323 Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:48 pm Posts: 6	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" 700 damage 700 damage 700 damage 700 damage 700 damage WHATS WRONG WITH YOU
Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:50 pm

Whitewhale Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm Posts: 3556	Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!" rate of fire nerf LONG overdue, this would be a great great thing, aswell as zooming out on change low falloff is silly with HAPPY FLAG and the map design high damage is ok but 700 seems to high
Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:54 pm

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Cyberlink

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Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm
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Location: Dallas, TX USA
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DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Read this, vote here, and see the poll feedback here.

_________________

I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates.

Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket

Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148

Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:07 pm

dhmrs

Joined: Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:03 pm
Posts: 42

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

I like the decreased falloff. Would recommend making Phase clip 2 shots and SAP 1 shot, just to give a reason to still use phase (Not that anyone does atm, but it would be better than keeping it dead content).

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Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:30 pm

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
Posts: 4870
Location: NA East

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Contributed.

I think the scope requirement and charge mechanic have a lot to do with entry level players having difficulty with sniping, and though this doesn't effect me, or games I think are important, I think it does have a negative effect on new player retention.

The only other sub note, would be I do like the idea of energy in both energy rifles correlating directly to damage, IE: Who's going to use the PR if it does less damage for the same amount of energy?

I feel like this should be implied, but that's kind of how the poll/blog was worded, since he lumped them by class of rifle.

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Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:40 pm

Cyberlink

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Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Nice response pool so far.

Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:48 pm

Macavity

Joined: Wed Mar 04, 2009 3:59 am
Posts: 45

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Without having looked at the poll or the results, I'll just say that you can't make huge balance changes by having a poll on these forums.

If HiRez balanced this game around what people voted for, we'd all be running around with autos doing 10 damage.

I hope you take this into consideration, HiRez.

Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:23 pm

Spacecadet2323

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:48 pm
Posts: 6

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Once again low rez has failed to consider counter play. LETS FIX THE SNIPEERRRR HURR DURRR but lets not consider what it will be like to play against.

In public games they are already a kill stealing menace they should really fix that, explain to me why the person who does 99% damage to someone only gets the assist when a F*&k tard sniper will pew pew his last 10 hp and get the kill credit ?

Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:35 pm

Cyberlink

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Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm
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Location: Dallas, TX USA
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Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Macavity wrote:

Clearly, these votes do not make up the majority of the final decision.
Game changes are derived from:

Server metrics
Player feedback
Internal testing

This is simply to help out the dev in question view quantified feedback from the forums.
Just something I do as a CA to help them out on my own behalf.

Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:36 pm

Horridius

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:30 pm
Posts: 745

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

Spacecadet2323 wrote:

In public games they are already a kill stealing menace they should really fix that, explain to me why the person who does 99% damage to someone only gets the assist when a F*&k tard sniper will pew pew his last 10 hp and get the kill credit ?

You do realise that with this change the kill stealing is going to nerfed ... More damage, less RoF -> Less spamming shots -> Less chances to steal kills. It seems you weren't thinking at all. Ignore this guy people, please move on.

Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:46 pm

Spacecadet2323

Joined: Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:48 pm
Posts: 6

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

700 damage

700 damage

700 damage

700 damage

700 damage

WHATS WRONG WITH YOU

Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:50 pm

Whitewhale

Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm
Posts: 3556

Re: DEV Blog (HirezScott) "Snipers!"

rate of fire nerf LONG overdue, this would be a great great thing, aswell as zooming out on change

low falloff is silly with HAPPY FLAG and the map design

high damage is ok but 700 seems to high

Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:54 pm

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