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Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!
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mousedisc Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:38 am Posts: 531	Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! The new match making system is insanely great for a first iteration congrats. One thing I noticed though is, that without voip, a lot of us are still floundering for team coordination, especially for larger maps like Tartarus. If you assume the way to beat the other team is to time the attack, with offense leading only a few moments before the capper, the minimap is the only way to solve these team coordination problem. You can't assume offense can just consistently clear and then stop firing at stand when capper comes in with a VFF. The minimap is also the way for a defense to get a leg up on incoming. It's been discussed before what it should look like (like t1 or t2 etc). For a slightly different set of ideas, I'm focusing on behavior this time. - Minimap is always visible and shows a square. The corner to center is the radius/range. Position of map is configurable via gui. - Friendlies always show up. - Bottom right icon on map itself shows radar status. - If radar status is up any enemy within radar radius shows up. - Any enemy spotted shows in the same static icon format that it does in air right now. - Any enemy triggering a motion sensor shows up in static icon format. - Radius might potentially be size of drydock, but for larger maps like Kata should pan. The additional incentive for radar uptime will reinforce the technicians role within the game as well as generator. _________________ ADD CONFIGURABLE CROSSHAIRS: + * . O RELEASE MAPPING TOOLS
Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:02 am

shmeetzTA Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:29 am Posts: 691	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! I would love a mini map! In fact i think it would be a 1000 times better if the only way see an enemy was on a radar blip mini map. Tied directly to the generator of course. The 3D spotting/lacation things make it feel kind of like we're playing with training wheels. There should never be any kind of icon/marker out in the 3D playing area of the map that gives a players position away to the other team imo. Maybe i'm just old school, idk. _________________ Ever feel like the guy you're fighting is able to stay in the air for just a little longer than everyone else? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Cd5XogxnE
Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:18 pm

SkepticTA Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm Posts: 3062	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. _________________ (AHK) T:A Physics Profiler
Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:17 pm

Kayato Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:40 pm Posts: 28	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! I think is fine without a mini-map, more free screen. Btw the maps are smalls, just look around to find your teamates.
Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:34 pm

nomadchaser Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:24 am Posts: 396	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! An unobstructive minimap as part of the core HUD components would be great and go along with what the franchise has already established.
Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:42 pm

Daekesh Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:46 am Posts: 3203	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. _________________ TTaM, Lumberjack EU Admin and Lead (only?) Coder @ www.GameShrine.org. Tribes: Ascend competition for Europe, Oceania and the US.
Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:24 pm

disci Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Winland	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! Daekesh wrote: SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.
Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:25 pm

disci Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Winland	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! Kayato wrote: I think is fine without a mini-map, more free screen. Btw the maps are smalls, just look around to find your teamates. Sorry but you have no idea...
Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:26 pm

Lesteriuse Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:39 pm Posts: 1743 Location: Zagreb, Croatia	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! Daekesh wrote: SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. SkepticTA wrote: Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc. _________________ A thread on performance bottlenecks in the engine and what needs to be optimised My blueplate/mid-air nitron montage
Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:26 pm

Whitewhale Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm Posts: 3556	Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it! its actually starting to get really annoying having to ask for such basic functionss hirez, i have spoken to a number of u guys irl so its nice play...but ffs just do this we have been asking since november
Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:07 pm

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Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

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mousedisc

Joined: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:38 am
Posts: 531

Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

The new match making system is insanely great for a first iteration congrats. One thing I noticed though is, that without voip, a lot of us are still floundering for team coordination, especially for larger maps like Tartarus.

If you assume the way to beat the other team is to time the attack, with offense leading only a few moments before the capper, the minimap is the only way to solve these team coordination problem. You can't assume offense can just consistently clear and then stop firing at stand when capper comes in with a VFF.

The minimap is also the way for a defense to get a leg up on incoming. It's been discussed before what it should look like (like t1 or t2 etc). For a slightly different set of ideas, I'm focusing on behavior this time.

- Minimap is always visible and shows a square. The corner to center is the radius/range. Position of map is configurable via gui.
- Friendlies always show up.
- Bottom right icon on map itself shows radar status.
- If radar status is up any enemy within radar radius shows up.
- Any enemy spotted shows in the same static icon format that it does in air right now.
- Any enemy triggering a motion sensor shows up in static icon format.
- Radius might potentially be size of drydock, but for larger maps like Kata should pan.

The additional incentive for radar uptime will reinforce the technicians role within the game as well as generator.

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ADD CONFIGURABLE CROSSHAIRS: + * . O
RELEASE MAPPING TOOLS

Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:02 am

shmeetzTA

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:29 am
Posts: 691

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

I would love a mini map! In fact i think it would be a 1000 times better if the only way see an enemy was on a radar blip mini map. Tied directly to the generator of course. The 3D spotting/lacation things make it feel kind of like we're playing with training wheels. There should never be any kind of icon/marker out in the 3D playing area of the map that gives a players position away to the other team imo. Maybe i'm just old school, idk.

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Ever feel like the guy you're fighting is able to stay in the air for just a little longer than everyone else?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Cd5XogxnE

Thu Jul 19, 2012 12:18 pm

SkepticTA

Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:41 pm
Posts: 3062

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

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(AHK) T:A Physics Profiler

Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:17 pm

Kayato

Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:40 pm
Posts: 28

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

I think is fine without a mini-map, more free screen. Btw the maps are smalls, just look around to find your teamates.

Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:34 pm

nomadchaser

Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:24 am
Posts: 396

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

An unobstructive minimap as part of the core HUD components would be great and go along with what the franchise has already established.

Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:42 pm

Daekesh

Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2011 8:46 am
Posts: 3203

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

_________________
TTaM, Lumberjack
EU Admin and Lead (only?) Coder @ www.GameShrine.org.
Tribes: Ascend competition for Europe, Oceania and the US.

Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:24 pm

disci

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Winland

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

Daekesh wrote:

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:25 pm

disci

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Winland

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

Kayato wrote:

I think is fine without a mini-map, more free screen. Btw the maps are smalls, just look around to find your teamates.

Sorry but you have no idea...

Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:26 pm

Lesteriuse

Joined: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:39 pm
Posts: 1743
Location: Zagreb, Croatia

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

Daekesh wrote:

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

SkepticTA wrote:

Minimap and full-view map please. So we can see where all of our teammates are and which assets are online, radius of sensors, etc.

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A thread on performance bottlenecks in the engine and what needs to be optimised
My blueplate/mid-air nitron montage

Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:26 pm

Whitewhale

Joined: Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:09 pm
Posts: 3556

Re: Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!

its actually starting to get really annoying having to ask for such basic functionss

hirez, i have spoken to a number of u guys irl so its nice play...but ffs just do this we have been asking since november

Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:07 pm

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Minimap thread again, sorry guys, we just need it!