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shmeetzTA Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:29 am Posts: 691	Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? ...Or is it just something they forgot to change in the menu? The damage bar for both of them is the same. _________________ Ever feel like the guy you're fighting is able to stay in the air for just a little longer than everyone else? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Cd5XogxnE
Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:11 am

raqyee Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:52 am Posts: 1914	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? They deal the same damage. DSF does more damage, but only on direct impact, that's why it's not noted in stat bars. However, it is noted in weapon description so it's fine. _________________ Feel free to add me on steam \| Member of conclave.cc
Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:26 am

Sabertoothpuppy Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:03 pm Posts: 575	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? Because those bar indicators have always been an accurate and reliable way to rate the weapons in just about every game where they are implemented... DSF deals 880 damage on direct hit at the cost of a lesser blast radius LSF still deals 770 damage on a direct hit and has the same splash damage but a greater radius. Sounds like an oversight to me, not that those bars actually matter...
Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:27 am

Celso-Flores Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:54 pm Posts: 312 Location: Switzerland	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? S4br3t00th wrote: Because those bar indicators have always been an accurate and reliable way to rate the weapons in just about every game where they are implemented... +1 I don't know whether you have to be the type for those bars but I for one can't do s*** with them. I'd rather just have the numbers _________________ IGN: Ssential GAME DESIGNER PROTIP: With less CoD comes creativity
Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:46 am

Ananasi Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:49 pm Posts: 1001	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? Celso-Flores wrote: +1 I don't know whether you have to be the type for those bars but I for one can't do s*** with them. I'd rather just have the numbers Ananasi wrote: OK, all teh spinnies, have fun: Heavy Spinfusor Damage = 750 Direct hit multiplier = 1.4 Damage radius = 360 UU Momentum transfer = 90000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.4 Devastator Spinfusor Damage = 700 Direct hit multiplier = 1.72 Damage radius = 390 UU Momentum transfer = 90000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.4 Light Spinfusor Damage = 550 Direct hit multiplier = 1.4 Damage radius = 360 UU Momentum transfer = 85000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.0 Dueling Spinfusor Damage = 550 Direct hit multiplier = 1.6 Damage radius = 340 UU Momentum transfer = 85000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.0 Spinfusor Damage = 650 Direct hit multiplier = 1.4 Damage radius = 360 UU Momentum transfer = 85000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.2 Spinfusor MKD Damage = 600 Direct hit multiplier = 1.4 Damage radius = 390 UU Momentum transfer = 85000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.2 Spinfusor MK-X Damage = 660 Direct hit multiplier = 1.4 Damage radius = 360 UU Momentum transfer = 85000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.2 Stealth Spinfusor Damage = 500 Direct hit multiplier = 1.4 Damage radius = 360 UU Momentum transfer = 75000 Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.0 (UU = unreal unit) And yes, I really should find time to put it on the wiki.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:36 am

Tavastia Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:06 pm Posts: 105	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? Why do they have different momentum transfers? That is beyond retarded. _________________
Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:29 pm

Raindance Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:46 am Posts: 289	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? Tavastia wrote: Why do they have different momentum transfers? That is beyond retarded. The two discers (dueling, light) mentioned, both have the same? _________________
Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:31 pm

Tavastia Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:06 pm Posts: 105	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? I misinterpreted momentum transfer as inheritance. Is it propoer to think momemntum transfer is disc jumping power? _________________
Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:01 pm

Daybreak23 Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:50 pm Posts: 119	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? Uh.. how big is 20 UU? Cause it seems that the difference in splash damage. Then it's kinda silly.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Ananasi Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:49 pm Posts: 1001	Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage? Tavastia wrote: I misinterpreted momentum transfer as inheritance. Is it propoer to think momemntum transfer is disc jumping power? That is correct, it represents relative disc jumping power.
Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:27 pm

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shmeetzTA

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:29 am
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Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

...Or is it just something they forgot to change in the menu? The damage bar for both of them is the same.

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Ever feel like the guy you're fighting is able to stay in the air for just a little longer than everyone else?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32Cd5XogxnE

Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:11 am

raqyee

Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:52 am
Posts: 1914

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

They deal the same damage. DSF does more damage, but only on direct impact, that's why it's not noted in stat bars. However, it is noted in weapon description so it's fine.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:26 am

Sabertoothpuppy

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:03 pm
Posts: 575

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

Because those bar indicators have always been an accurate and reliable way to rate the weapons in just about every game where they are implemented...

DSF deals 880 damage on direct hit at the cost of a lesser blast radius
LSF still deals 770 damage on a direct hit and has the same splash damage but a greater radius.

Sounds like an oversight to me, not that those bars actually matter...

Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:27 am

Celso-Flores

Joined: Sun Oct 24, 2010 4:54 pm
Posts: 312
Location: Switzerland

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

S4br3t00th wrote:

Because those bar indicators have always been an accurate and reliable way to rate the weapons in just about every game where they are implemented...

+1 I don't know whether you have to be the type for those bars but I for one can't do s*** with them. I'd rather just have the numbers

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GAME DESIGNER PROTIP:
With less CoD comes creativity

Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:46 am

Ananasi

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:49 pm
Posts: 1001

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

Celso-Flores wrote:

+1 I don't know whether you have to be the type for those bars but I for one can't do s*** with them. I'd rather just have the numbers

Ananasi wrote:

OK, all teh spinnies, have fun:

Heavy Spinfusor
Damage = 750
Direct hit multiplier = 1.4
Damage radius = 360 UU
Momentum transfer = 90000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.4

Devastator Spinfusor
Damage = 700
Direct hit multiplier = 1.72
Damage radius = 390 UU
Momentum transfer = 90000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.4

Light Spinfusor
Damage = 550
Direct hit multiplier = 1.4
Damage radius = 360 UU
Momentum transfer = 85000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.0

Dueling Spinfusor
Damage = 550
Direct hit multiplier = 1.6
Damage radius = 340 UU
Momentum transfer = 85000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.0

Spinfusor
Damage = 650
Direct hit multiplier = 1.4
Damage radius = 360 UU
Momentum transfer = 85000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.2

Spinfusor MKD
Damage = 600
Direct hit multiplier = 1.4
Damage radius = 390 UU
Momentum transfer = 85000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.2

Spinfusor MK-X
Damage = 660
Direct hit multiplier = 1.4
Damage radius = 360 UU
Momentum transfer = 85000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.2

Stealth Spinfusor
Damage = 500
Direct hit multiplier = 1.4
Damage radius = 360 UU
Momentum transfer = 75000
Default damage multiplier vs armor = 1.0

(UU = unreal unit)

And yes, I really should find time to put it on the wiki.

Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:36 am

Tavastia

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:06 pm
Posts: 105

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

Why do they have different momentum transfers? That is beyond retarded.

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:29 pm

Raindance

Joined: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:46 am
Posts: 289

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

Tavastia wrote:

Why do they have different momentum transfers? That is beyond retarded.

The two discers (dueling, light) mentioned, both have the same?

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:31 pm

Tavastia

Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 1:06 pm
Posts: 105

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

I misinterpreted momentum transfer as inheritance. Is it propoer to think momemntum transfer is disc jumping power?

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Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:01 pm

Daybreak23

Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:50 pm
Posts: 119

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

Uh.. how big is 20 UU?
Cause it seems that the difference in splash damage. Then it's kinda silly.

Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:56 pm

Ananasi

Joined: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:49 pm
Posts: 1001

Re: Dueling SF vs. Light SF - both do the same amount of damage?

Tavastia wrote:

I misinterpreted momentum transfer as inheritance. Is it propoer to think momemntum transfer is disc jumping power?

That is correct, it represents relative disc jumping power.

Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:27 pm

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