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Sieptium Joined: Thu May 10, 2012 3:16 pm Posts: 4	Serious unbalance for INF Yeah, could anyone explain how this class are supposed to do anything? Let's go over what it can do... - Bomb stuff - Go invisable - Be quite fast So.. My objective is to destroy the enemy Generator. Aight. I've got stealth. I am pretty fast. Cool. Oh, there's a heavy guarding the generator. Let's kill him. Oh wait. He can take everything I have for at least 10-15 seconds. No way to pick those off easy, even if I should have a huge advantage from behind when he's still and i've planted a sticky on him and bombards him with bullets. So... If I am lucky he won't hit anywhere around me with those giant explosions. Well. That was fine so far. Some competitive play against big clunky idiots. No problemo, that's fine. I can't kill everyone easy. But jesus f* christ. Jammers? Seriously? Are you kidding with me? That is like placing a forcefield that hinders light classes from skiing, that covers half the friggin map. Jammers cover the only place where I am supposed to go for christ sake And then came the raiders. Oh my f* god. Fast class, durable and explosions everywhere. If they see you enter their building you're dead and their "power" makes them unbeatable. Doesnt help that as soon as your stealth ends, everyone can see your tag and they can go for you. Can't hide behind walls, can't hide anywhere. Even if their radar is down. Which is odd? Anyway my point is. With the low stealth duration, tag over your head, weak weaponary (except for stickys, but they're seriously not reliable in open areas), weak armor and the hard counter, aka jammer, in close quarters makes this class absolutely useless against any team with half a brain. Someone please. Do explain to me. How in the flying f*** will I be able to complete my one and only objective? I am going to end with saying this. The Spy. From TF2. Balanced. 1hk everything from behind, has easier targets, not moving in 150 km/h over valleys, can disguise. Stealth recovers while still (with item). Can bomb equipment with limitless supplies to do so. And no jammers. The Spy, has a counter, The Pyro. That is 1 counter. 1. Why is the Spy not unbalanced even though it has ALOT more features and less threats?
Thu May 10, 2012 3:52 pm

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: Serious unbalance for INF _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Thu May 10, 2012 3:58 pm

DemoEvolved Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 2032	Re: Serious unbalance for INF
Thu May 10, 2012 3:59 pm

WitchDoctorVega Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am Posts: 2482 Location: On the coast, NH Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..	Re: Serious unbalance for INF DemoEvolved wrote: _________________ CYBRIDS 4 LYF! Metagens 4 ever!
Thu May 10, 2012 4:00 pm

DemoEvolved Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 2032	Re: Serious unbalance for INF Look I am being helpful. Someone really cool made these. basic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nS-reb5hkY jackal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liwnRsPKNKo
Thu May 10, 2012 4:04 pm

Rithas Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:34 pm Posts: 733 Steam Gamer Name: AngryMarine	Re: Serious unbalance for INF _________________
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DHBSiberian Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:55 pm Posts: 181	Re: Serious unbalance for INF i can tell you as a fulltime Tech that i fear INF more then any other class when defending the gennie.. the INF is def not in need of buffing.. my odds of beating a inf. rely more on getting lucky then any actual advantage.
Thu May 10, 2012 4:04 pm

Tamburlaine Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am Posts: 1859	Re: Serious unbalance for INF DibbzTheLoner wrote: _________________ oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer
Thu May 10, 2012 4:06 pm

DemoEvolved Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am Posts: 2032	Re: Serious unbalance for INF ExigentFX wrote: that's the funniest one, easily
Thu May 10, 2012 4:08 pm

Cyanistic Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:16 pm Posts: 3783 Steam Gamer Name: Cyanistic	Re: Serious unbalance for INF Heavies? You mean those p* easy fatties that love my stickies and knives? Especially outdoors? Ooooh~ They're fun. Jammers? Hhngggfuucckyourshiittraider/dropjams Raiders? Plasma Gun will reck your s* if they can aim, they're more deadly then any other class expect perhaps an aim-bot good brute with the spinfusor. He's an extremely deadly force to be reckoned with, the infiltrator that is.
Thu May 10, 2012 4:11 pm

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Sieptium

Joined: Thu May 10, 2012 3:16 pm
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Serious unbalance for INF

Yeah, could anyone explain how this class are supposed to do anything?

Let's go over what it can do...
- Bomb stuff
- Go invisable
- Be quite fast

So.. My objective is to destroy the enemy Generator. Aight. I've got stealth. I am pretty fast. Cool.

Oh, there's a heavy guarding the generator. Let's kill him. Oh wait. He can take everything I have for at least 10-15 seconds. No way to pick those off easy, even if I should have a huge advantage from behind when he's still and i've planted a sticky on him and bombards him with bullets.

So... If I am lucky he won't hit anywhere around me with those giant explosions.
Well. That was fine so far. Some competitive play against big clunky idiots. No problemo, that's fine. I can't kill everyone easy. But jesus f*** christ. Jammers? Seriously? Are you kidding with me? That is like placing a forcefield that hinders light classes from skiing, that covers half the friggin map. Jammers cover the only place where I am supposed to go for christ sake

And then came the raiders. Oh my f*** god. Fast class, durable and explosions everywhere. If they see you enter their building you're dead and their "power" makes them unbeatable. Doesnt help that as soon as your stealth ends, everyone can see your tag and they can go for you. Can't hide behind walls, can't hide anywhere. Even if their radar is down. Which is odd?

Anyway my point is. With the low stealth duration, tag over your head, weak weaponary (except for stickys, but they're seriously not reliable in open areas), weak armor and the hard counter, aka jammer, in close quarters makes this class absolutely useless against any team with half a brain. Someone please. Do explain to me. How in the flying f*** will I be able to complete my one and only objective?

I am going to end with saying this. The Spy. From TF2. Balanced. 1hk everything from behind, has easier targets, not moving in 150 km/h over valleys, can disguise. Stealth recovers while still (with item). Can bomb equipment with limitless supplies to do so. And no jammers. The Spy, has a counter, The Pyro. That is 1 counter. 1.
Why is the Spy not unbalanced even though it has ALOT more features and less threats?

Thu May 10, 2012 3:52 pm

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

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This signature is green. I like the colour green.
Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green.
Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!

Thu May 10, 2012 3:58 pm

DemoEvolved

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am
Posts: 2032

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

Thu May 10, 2012 3:59 pm

WitchDoctorVega

Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am
Posts: 2482
Location: On the coast, NH
Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

DemoEvolved wrote:

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CYBRIDS 4 LYF! Metagens 4 ever!

Thu May 10, 2012 4:00 pm

DemoEvolved

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am
Posts: 2032

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

Look I am being helpful. Someone really cool made these.

basic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nS-reb5hkY

jackal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liwnRsPKNKo

Thu May 10, 2012 4:04 pm

Rithas

Joined: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:34 pm
Posts: 733
Steam Gamer Name: AngryMarine

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

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Thu May 10, 2012 4:04 pm

DHBSiberian

Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:55 pm
Posts: 181

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

i can tell you as a fulltime Tech that i fear INF more then any other class when defending the gennie..

the INF is def not in need of buffing..

my odds of beating a inf. rely more on getting lucky then any actual advantage.

Thu May 10, 2012 4:04 pm

Tamburlaine

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 1859

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

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oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer

Thu May 10, 2012 4:06 pm

DemoEvolved

Joined: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:28 am
Posts: 2032

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

ExigentFX wrote:

that's the funniest one, easily

Thu May 10, 2012 4:08 pm

Cyanistic

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:16 pm
Posts: 3783
Steam Gamer Name: Cyanistic

Re: Serious unbalance for INF

Heavies? You mean those p*** easy fatties that love my stickies and knives? Especially outdoors?
Ooooh~ They're fun.

Jammers? Hhngggfuucckyourshiittraider/dropjams

Raiders? Plasma Gun will reck your s*** if they can aim, they're more deadly then any other class expect perhaps an aim-bot good brute with the spinfusor.

He's an extremely deadly force to be reckoned with, the infiltrator that is.

Thu May 10, 2012 4:11 pm

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