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NsanePoptart Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:29 pm Posts: 3	Opinion on XP and Gold At first I was so happy when tribes ascend came out after the kick to the nuts with 2 but at least 2 was much more versatile when letting you pick classes & such. The idea of free gaming is great but i'd rather pay fullprice for the game at first so I can have access to all of the stuff that the game has to offer and then pay for when a expansion comes out. If the game is good the revenue will follow. If you look closely from what I can tell it would cost you more to have all the upgrades and classes unlocked than it would if you just payed $60 for it at start. Please take a look at this link and take a look at the cost charts that are on the website http://www.tribesascendwiki.com/Infiltrator and then look at hi rez'z top tier package yeah im sure if you spent most of your day playing and getting 3,000 xp for an hour's worth of play you might be able to sqeek it out in a month or so. Maybe I gots it all wrong but really at this point since its free can't they just walk away anytime they want. What I would like to see is if you pay for top tier you should get accesss for everything including all upgrades if not lower the costs of the packages and lower the XP cost of the items and offer more items it just brings you back to the basics of supply and demand. Well anyway thats my 2cents please be gentle lol I like the game but dont exactly agree on the XP/gold structure.
Wed May 02, 2012 9:01 pm

starlinvf Beta Tester Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am Posts: 1478	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Welcome to the HiRez F2P business model. Gold exchanges on your left, lube dispenser is on your right. _________________ "Even if it is just a gimmick, you can bet it'll be a crowd pleaser to see a player's feet kick up in the air and initiate a top down attack."
Wed May 02, 2012 9:05 pm

nutcrackr Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:14 am Posts: 131 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: nutcrackr	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold XP gain without boosts is very slow, but with boosts you can earn 100k in a week without playing that much. Boosts cost 24 - 40 cents a day so you can unlock weapons for a low price if you just play with boosts and not buy anything with gold.
Wed May 02, 2012 11:06 pm

Elysiume Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm Posts: 1058	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Straight up buying the game for anything under hundreds of dollars isn't going to happen, so don't waste your breath. I personally think experience costs could use some tweaks. Nothing drastic; something like 25/50/75 instead of 40/75/100. This would be paired with gold costs being shifted to 250/500/750, which, as a bonus, gives a consistent gold:exp ratio. _________________ 100% inheritance is something the game needs. Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.
Wed May 02, 2012 11:54 pm

NsanePoptart Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:29 pm Posts: 3	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Hey all I appreciate your feedback on this topic and any other comments are always welcome. Knowledge is the key
Thu May 03, 2012 7:46 pm

clank1 Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:23 am Posts: 128	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Repostan, ~45 hours for a completely f2p account to unlock a 100k weapon. Not including daily first wins. I think if they're going to keep releasing new content, they should eventually drop the prices of the older weapons/skins. Just a thought. NsanePoptart wrote: Hey all I appreciate your feedback on this topic and any other comments are always welcome. Knowledge is the key Don't, don't do that. _________________
Fri May 04, 2012 12:31 am

Guilotine Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:24 pm Posts: 14	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Well if you pay that 40€ for this game you have 60 day boost and alot of gold to spend on unlocks ( mainly weapons and perks ) while you save up exp you make to upgrades and class unlocks. I rather have Freemium model game than full priced with these exp requirements, Making up 6k with first win bonus aint even big deal with boost and VIP account
Fri May 04, 2012 2:48 am

MrLordcaptain Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm Posts: 654	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Elysiume wrote: Straight up buying the game for anything under hundreds of dollars isn't going to happen, so don't waste your breath. I personally think experience costs could use some tweaks. Nothing drastic; something like 25/50/75 instead of 40/75/100. This would be paired with gold costs being shifted to 250/500/750, which, as a bonus, gives a consistent gold:exp ratio. Now thats a decent idea. _________________ Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns
Fri May 04, 2012 4:06 am

starlinvf Beta Tester Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am Posts: 1478	Re: Opinion on XP and Gold Guilotine wrote: Well if you pay that 40€ for this game you have 60 day boost and alot of gold to spend on unlocks ( mainly weapons and perks ) while you save up exp you make to upgrades and class unlocks. I rather have Freemium model game than full priced with these exp requirements, Making up 6k with first win bonus aint even big deal with boost and VIP account The point of the full price is to bypass the exp requirements. But at the same time they lose the skinner box motivation, which is proven to be a cheap and powerful trick to add value to the game. _________________ "Even if it is just a gimmick, you can bet it'll be a crowd pleaser to see a player's feet kick up in the air and initiate a top down attack."
Fri May 04, 2012 5:52 am

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NsanePoptart

Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:29 pm
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Opinion on XP and Gold

At first I was so happy when tribes ascend came out after the kick to the nuts with 2 but at least 2 was much more versatile when letting you pick classes & such. The idea of free gaming is great but i'd rather pay fullprice for the game at first so I can have access to all of the stuff that the game has to offer and then pay for when a expansion comes out. If the game is good the revenue will follow. If you look closely from what I can tell it would cost you more to have all the upgrades and classes unlocked than it would if you just payed $60 for it at start. Please take a look at this link and take a look at the cost charts that are on the website
http://www.tribesascendwiki.com/Infiltrator
and then look at hi rez'z top tier package yeah im sure if you spent most of your day playing and getting 3,000 xp for an hour's worth of play you might be able to sqeek it out in a month or so. Maybe I gots it all wrong but really at this point since its free can't they just walk away anytime they want. What I would like to see is if you pay for top tier you should get accesss for everything including all upgrades if not lower the costs of the packages and lower the XP cost of the items and offer more items it just brings you back to the basics of supply and demand. Well anyway thats my 2cents please be gentle lol I like the game but dont exactly agree on the XP/gold structure.

Wed May 02, 2012 9:01 pm

starlinvf

Beta Tester

Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am
Posts: 1478

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Welcome to the HiRez F2P business model. Gold exchanges on your left, lube dispenser is on your right.

_________________
"Even if it is just a gimmick, you can bet it'll be a crowd pleaser to see a player's feet kick up in the air and initiate a top down attack."

Wed May 02, 2012 9:05 pm

nutcrackr

Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:14 am
Posts: 131
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: nutcrackr

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

XP gain without boosts is very slow, but with boosts you can earn 100k in a week without playing that much. Boosts cost 24 - 40 cents a day so you can unlock weapons for a low price if you just play with boosts and not buy anything with gold.

Wed May 02, 2012 11:06 pm

Elysiume

Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm
Posts: 1058

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Straight up buying the game for anything under hundreds of dollars isn't going to happen, so don't waste your breath. I personally think experience costs could use some tweaks. Nothing drastic; something like 25/50/75 instead of 40/75/100. This would be paired with gold costs being shifted to 250/500/750, which, as a bonus, gives a consistent gold:exp ratio.

_________________
100% inheritance is something the game needs.
Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.

Wed May 02, 2012 11:54 pm

NsanePoptart

Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:29 pm
Posts: 3

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Hey all I appreciate your feedback on this topic and any other comments are always welcome. Knowledge is the key

Thu May 03, 2012 7:46 pm

clank1

Joined: Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:23 am
Posts: 128

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Repostan, ~45 hours for a completely f2p account to unlock a 100k weapon. Not including daily first wins.

I think if they're going to keep releasing new content, they should eventually drop the prices of the older weapons/skins. Just a thought.

NsanePoptart wrote:

Hey all I appreciate your feedback on this topic and any other comments are always welcome. Knowledge is the key

Don't, don't do that.

_________________

Fri May 04, 2012 12:31 am

Guilotine

Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:24 pm
Posts: 14

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Well if you pay that 40€ for this game you have 60 day boost and alot of gold to spend on unlocks ( mainly weapons and perks ) while you save up exp you make to upgrades and class unlocks. I rather have Freemium model game than full priced with these exp requirements, Making up 6k with first win bonus aint even big deal with boost and VIP account

Fri May 04, 2012 2:48 am

MrLordcaptain

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm
Posts: 654

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Elysiume wrote:

Now thats a decent idea.

_________________
Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns

Fri May 04, 2012 4:06 am

starlinvf

Beta Tester

Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am
Posts: 1478

Re: Opinion on XP and Gold

Guilotine wrote:

The point of the full price is to bypass the exp requirements. But at the same time they lose the skinner box motivation, which is proven to be a cheap and powerful trick to add value to the game.

_________________
"Even if it is just a gimmick, you can bet it'll be a crowd pleaser to see a player's feet kick up in the air and initiate a top down attack."

Fri May 04, 2012 5:52 am

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