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ZProtoss Alpha Tester Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm Posts: 427	This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. (Note: Please see the reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Tribes/comments ... astically/ for immediate feedback. Below is a copy/paste) Before you read the following fix, I'd like to ask one main thing in the following responses: ASK HI REZ TO INCLUDE THIS AS AN IN-GAME MENU OPTION. My basic understanding of the below fix is as follows: Essentially, UE3 by default decides to lag mouse inputs in exchange for better frame rate. It's a setting that while not a big deal for console games, is a huge deal for PC games. By turning the OneFrameThreadLag setting to false, you'll notice an immediate and sudden improvement in how your mouse feels in game. This is because your direct input is no longer delayed by X amount of frames. Please note though, that as mentioned above, this does come at a frame rate penalty. If you're on a PC that can barely play T:A in its current form, this fix might make the game unplayable. If you're on a more modern PC, you shouldn't have a noticable frame hit. Fix is below this line. Go to: C:\UsersYOUR PC NAME\Documents\My Games\Tribes Ascend\TribesGame\Config Open: Tribes.ini Insert under DirectionalLightMaps=True the following: "OneFrameThreadLag=False" (without " marks) Save the ini. Enjoy drastically increased mouse responsiveness.
Tue May 01, 2012 5:55 pm

Graupel Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:52 pm Posts: 11 Location: EU	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. Really does work, just tried it out. I think the comp. guys could appreciate this.
Tue May 01, 2012 6:26 pm

c0mad0r Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm Posts: 604 Location: San Diego, CA. USA	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. OneFrameThreadLag is set "TRUE" by default specifically for NET lag. It determines whether to allow the rendering thread of T:A to lag one frame behind the game thread, which compensates for slow connections or high latency/ping issues. While it DOES in fact help with mouse responsiveness, please realize that the side effect may result it worse lag at times. EXAMPLE OneFrameThreadLag=TRUE You're on a 16v16 CTF match and the game starts to studder a bit. OneFrameThreadLag will allow it to receive data from the previous "frame" and smoothly transition to the current "frame", thus reducing studder during the catch-up game. EXAMPLE OneFrameThreadLag=FALSE You're on a 16v16 CTF match and the game starts to studder a bit. Without OneFrameThreadLag on, the previous receive data from the previous "frame" is disregarded and will immediately render the current frame. This results in you "jumping" from one place to another more often. _________________ Try My T:A TS3 Skin: Download Try My T:A Mumble Skin: Download (Mumble Note: Click "Download original" from top right or "File, Download Original")
Tue May 01, 2012 6:34 pm

theprzn Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:23 pm Posts: 105	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. i cant wait to try it out. this isnt just something that reduces menu mouse latency is it? but also in game latency? if so, good stuff zp. now please help me find out why any smoke effect absolutely destroys frame rates. _________________ zfz.jihad4jesus
Tue May 01, 2012 6:42 pm

ZProtoss Alpha Tester Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm Posts: 427	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. theprzn wrote: i cant wait to try it out. this isnt just something that reduces menu mouse latency is it? but also in game latency? if so, good stuff zp. now please help me find out why any smoke effect absolutely destroys frame rates. No clue on the nebulous smoke effects :[
Tue May 01, 2012 8:37 pm

Wobberjockey Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am Posts: 8726 Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up. this seems to me like it would be one of those _________________ original art at http://tinyurl.com/shazbotsig The Tribes READ ME. Quite possibly the most important thread you'll never read
Tue May 01, 2012 8:41 pm

ZProtoss Alpha Tester Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm Posts: 427	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. Wobberjockey wrote: i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up. this seems to me like it would be one of those This could easily be set as an in-game menu option. It is not startup specific. edit: Also, (even though its not) - for the sake of argument that you were right. It's not really hard to have a setting with a prompt of "you must restart your game for changes to take effect." Either way, no reason why it can't be a menu option, particularly when it's such a big impact setting. Last edited by ZProtoss on Tue May 01, 2012 8:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue May 01, 2012 8:44 pm

Mabeline Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:56 am Posts: 329 Location: eSports	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. Wobberjockey wrote: i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up. this seems to me like it would be one of those You're not allowed to talk about technical things anymore. _________________ SkepticTA wrote: The only thing comp needs to ban is Mabel.
Tue May 01, 2012 8:45 pm

hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. Wobberjockey wrote: i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up. Even if that is the case and it requires a restart, most games handle that by, you know, telling you that the change you just made won't take effect until you restart... _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options.
Tue May 01, 2012 9:01 pm

prodiG Beta Tester Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:26 am Posts: 15	Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP. I cannot stress how important it is to have crucial things like this in the UI. I live in Edmonton, a city with a very active local gaming scene and as such spend a lot of time playing at a local LAN center here (I have a great PC at home but playing with people in the same room as you is just more fun) - you can't make changes to things like .ini files on LAN center machines (for obvious vandalism and security reasons). The idea of "you can tweak it in the .ini" doesn't work for anyone a) without the knowledge to do so or b) without the ability to do so in situations like the above. For a lot of the little tweaks it's not huge, but for something as significant as this it's absolutely necessary.
Tue May 01, 2012 9:15 pm

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ZProtoss

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Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm
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This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

(Note: Please see the reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Tribes/comments ... astically/ for immediate feedback. Below is a copy/paste)

Before you read the following fix, I'd like to ask one main thing in the following responses:

ASK HI REZ TO INCLUDE THIS AS AN IN-GAME MENU OPTION.

My basic understanding of the below fix is as follows: Essentially, UE3 by default decides to lag mouse inputs in exchange for better frame rate. It's a setting that while not a big deal for console games, is a huge deal for PC games.

By turning the OneFrameThreadLag setting to false, you'll notice an immediate and sudden improvement in how your mouse feels in game. This is because your direct input is no longer delayed by X amount of frames.

Please note though, that as mentioned above, this does come at a frame rate penalty. If you're on a PC that can barely play T:A in its current form, this fix might make the game unplayable. If you're on a more modern PC, you shouldn't have a noticable frame hit.

Fix is below this line.

Go to:

C:\Users*YOUR PC NAME*\Documents\My Games\Tribes Ascend\TribesGame\Config

Open:

Tribes.ini

Insert under DirectionalLightMaps=True the following:

"OneFrameThreadLag=False" (without " marks)

Save the ini.

Enjoy drastically increased mouse responsiveness.

Tue May 01, 2012 5:55 pm

Graupel

Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:52 pm
Posts: 11
Location: EU

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

Really does work, just tried it out. I think the comp. guys could appreciate this.

Tue May 01, 2012 6:26 pm

c0mad0r

Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:54 pm
Posts: 604
Location: San Diego, CA. USA

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

OneFrameThreadLag is set "TRUE" by default specifically for NET lag. It determines whether to allow the rendering thread of T:A to lag one frame behind the game thread, which compensates for slow connections or high latency/ping issues.

While it DOES in fact help with mouse responsiveness, please realize that the side effect may result it worse lag at times.

EXAMPLE OneFrameThreadLag=TRUE

You're on a 16v16 CTF match and the game starts to studder a bit. OneFrameThreadLag will allow it to receive data from the previous "frame" and smoothly transition to the current "frame", thus reducing studder during the catch-up game.

EXAMPLE OneFrameThreadLag=FALSE

You're on a 16v16 CTF match and the game starts to studder a bit. Without OneFrameThreadLag on, the previous receive data from the previous "frame" is disregarded and will immediately render the current frame. This results in you "jumping" from one place to another more often.

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Tue May 01, 2012 6:34 pm

theprzn

Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:23 pm
Posts: 105

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

i cant wait to try it out. this isnt just something that reduces menu mouse latency is it? but also in game latency?
if so, good stuff zp.

now please help me find out why any smoke effect absolutely destroys frame rates.

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Tue May 01, 2012 6:42 pm

ZProtoss

Alpha Tester

Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm
Posts: 427

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

theprzn wrote:

No clue on the nebulous smoke effects :[

Tue May 01, 2012 8:37 pm

Wobberjockey

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Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up.

this seems to me like it would be one of those

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Tue May 01, 2012 8:41 pm

ZProtoss

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Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:58 pm
Posts: 427

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

Wobberjockey wrote:

i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up.

this seems to me like it would be one of those

This could easily be set as an in-game menu option. It is not startup specific.

edit:

Also, (even though its not) - for the sake of argument that you were right. It's not really hard to have a setting with a prompt of "you must restart your game for changes to take effect."

Either way, no reason why it can't be a menu option, particularly when it's such a big impact setting.

Last edited by ZProtoss on Tue May 01, 2012 8:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Tue May 01, 2012 8:44 pm

Mabeline

Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:56 am
Posts: 329
Location: eSports

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

Wobberjockey wrote:

i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up.

this seems to me like it would be one of those

You're not allowed to talk about technical things anymore.

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The only thing comp needs to ban is Mabel.

Tue May 01, 2012 8:45 pm

hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
Posts: 1567

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

Wobberjockey wrote:

i know that certain .ini settiongs simply cannot be in game menu options, because they are read and set when the game starts up.

Even if that is the case and it requires a restart, most games handle that by, you know, telling you that the change you just made won't take effect until you restart...

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Tue May 01, 2012 9:01 pm

prodiG

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Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:26 am
Posts: 15

Re: This .ini setting needs to be an in-game menu option ASAP.

I cannot stress how important it is to have crucial things like this in the UI.

I live in Edmonton, a city with a very active local gaming scene and as such spend a lot of time playing at a local LAN center here (I have a great PC at home but playing with people in the same room as you is just more fun) - you can't make changes to things like .ini files on LAN center machines (for obvious vandalism and security reasons).

The idea of "you can tweak it in the .ini" doesn't work for anyone a) without the knowledge to do so or b) without the ability to do so in situations like the above. For a lot of the little tweaks it's not huge, but for something as significant as this it's absolutely necessary.

Tue May 01, 2012 9:15 pm

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