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Wirehanger Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:59 pm Posts: 102 Location: Finland	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... +1 Been wanting this for a very long time. You can still keep the firing pattern while allowing us to keep the mouse button down.
Wed May 02, 2012 3:36 pm

Elysiume Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm Posts: 1058	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... +1. Hell, click-to-fire should be gone for every single gun, including pistols. Drop the maximum fire rate to compensate. _________________ 100% inheritance is something the game needs. Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.
Wed May 02, 2012 3:44 pm

Tramadolol Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:47 am Posts: 610	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... Bumping again
Thu May 03, 2012 8:07 am

TheAlgerian Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:48 am Posts: 165	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... Tramadolol wrote: i'm basically forced to use a third-party-program like AutoHotKey to squeeze the highest possible damage out of this gun. It's a cheap and ugly solution to a problem that shouldn't even be there in the first place. Yes, it's time to ban people who use autokey, or simply change the mechanic and give the LAR some recoil when you tapfire too fast. _________________
Thu May 03, 2012 8:14 am

AwwThatsTooBad Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm Posts: 712	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... dang, my AutoDoublePost script broke _________________ I am looking to learn top secret flag punting skills since I can't cap. I am looking to learn top secret ninja hold-down-fire-button auto spamming skill tactics so I can play in the 35-50 kiddie pool. I am higher rank than all of you, therefore, I am obviously better than all of you. Last edited by AwwThatsTooBad on Thu May 03, 2012 8:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
Thu May 03, 2012 8:25 am

AwwThatsTooBad Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm Posts: 712	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... ohai guise, i must use script to click mouse because I am that bad and I've grown tired of being king derp and getting easyed by people who can actually play fps like mister VGTA plz to add new feature so i can ditch my scripts and pplz will think im naturally as good as Iz proclaims. and sorry , no , it'd not be hard to tell if a specific program was running. please don't talk about things you obviously have no clue about, eg programming. _________________ I am looking to learn top secret flag punting skills since I can't cap. I am looking to learn top secret ninja hold-down-fire-button auto spamming skill tactics so I can play in the 35-50 kiddie pool. I am higher rank than all of you, therefore, I am obviously better than all of you.
Thu May 03, 2012 8:26 am

Oroibahazopi Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm Posts: 1139	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... You can't ban people for having AHK running in the background because it might not be being used to affect the game, and there is no way to detect that. Also with programmable mice it'd be impossible again, unless you used the hardware ID to just disable the mouse input for specific mice lol Valve caved for a good reason, it's dumb to try and police so you should level the playing field.
Thu May 03, 2012 9:03 am

Frostiken Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:42 am Posts: 1045	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... Also people aren't going to be happy about your software scanning processes and banning them based on what it finds. Remember a little DRM utility called Starforce that would do that and block you if you had Daemon Tools, Alcohol 120%, and hell, just about any DVD burning software running? Yeah that worked well. Even if you blocked AHK, you could just bind the fire commnads to a free-spinning mousewheel and simply flick it and get the same result.
Thu May 03, 2012 9:11 am

Warskull Alpha Tester Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:15 am Posts: 154	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... Hold to Fire is design 101. There are so many other example of developers trying the click for each shot mechanic and people hating it. It is just s*** design. If you hold down the first button pistols should fire full-auto. The sabre should auto-fire the second it goes red if you hold down the mouse button. Anyone who thinks clicking the mouse as fast as they can is a 'skill' this game revolves around is brain damaged. Last edited by Warskull on Sun May 06, 2012 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Fri May 04, 2012 3:17 am

starlinvf Beta Tester Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am Posts: 1478	Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time... Oroibahazopi wrote: You can't ban people for having AHK running in the background because it might not be being used to affect the game, and there is no way to detect that. Also with programmable mice it'd be impossible again, unless you used the hardware ID to just disable the mouse input for specific mice lol Valve caved for a good reason, it's dumb to try and police so you should level the playing field. Punkbuster did it anyway. The situation is very similar to Torrents, where a legitimate use is vastly outweighed the illegitimate ones, except AHK can be highly disruptive to the game. Detection is obviously a losing battle, but there are ways to address common abuses through game mechanics. _________________ "Even if it is just a gimmick, you can bet it'll be a crowd pleaser to see a player's feet kick up in the air and initiate a top down attack."
Fri May 04, 2012 3:34 am

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Wirehanger

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:59 pm
Posts: 102
Location: Finland

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

+1

Been wanting this for a very long time. You can still keep the firing pattern while allowing us to keep the mouse button down.

Wed May 02, 2012 3:36 pm

Elysiume

Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm
Posts: 1058

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

+1. Hell, click-to-fire should be gone for every single gun, including pistols. Drop the maximum fire rate to compensate.

_________________
100% inheritance is something the game needs.
Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.

Wed May 02, 2012 3:44 pm

Tramadolol

Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 9:47 am
Posts: 610

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

Bumping again

Thu May 03, 2012 8:07 am

TheAlgerian

Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2012 11:48 am
Posts: 165

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

Tramadolol wrote:

i'm basically forced to use a third-party-program like AutoHotKey to squeeze the highest possible damage out of this gun. It's a cheap and ugly solution to a problem that shouldn't even be there in the first place.

Yes, it's time to ban people who use autokey, or simply change the mechanic and give the LAR some recoil when you tapfire too fast.

_________________

Thu May 03, 2012 8:14 am

AwwThatsTooBad

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm
Posts: 712

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

dang, my AutoDoublePost script broke

_________________
I am looking to learn top secret flag punting skills since I can't cap.
I am looking to learn top secret ninja hold-down-fire-button auto spamming skill tactics so I can play in the 35-50 kiddie pool.

I am higher rank than all of you, therefore, I am obviously better than all of you.

Last edited by AwwThatsTooBad on Thu May 03, 2012 8:27 am, edited 1 time in total.

Thu May 03, 2012 8:25 am

AwwThatsTooBad

Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:43 pm
Posts: 712

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

ohai guise, i must use script to click mouse because I am that bad and I've grown tired of being king derp and getting easyed by people who can actually play fps like mister VGTA

plz to add new feature so i can ditch my scripts and pplz will think im naturally as good as Iz proclaims.

and sorry , no , it'd not be hard to tell if a specific program was running. please don't talk about things you obviously have no clue about, eg programming.

Thu May 03, 2012 8:26 am

Oroibahazopi

Joined: Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm
Posts: 1139

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

You can't ban people for having AHK running in the background because it might not be being used to affect the game, and there is no way to detect that.

Also with programmable mice it'd be impossible again, unless you used the hardware ID to just disable the mouse input for specific mice lol

Valve caved for a good reason, it's dumb to try and police so you should level the playing field.

Thu May 03, 2012 9:03 am

Frostiken

Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:42 am
Posts: 1045

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

Also people aren't going to be happy about your software scanning processes and banning them based on what it finds. Remember a little DRM utility called Starforce that would do that and block you if you had Daemon Tools, Alcohol 120%, and hell, just about any DVD burning software running? Yeah that worked well.

Even if you blocked AHK, you could just bind the fire commnads to a free-spinning mousewheel and simply flick it and get the same result.

Thu May 03, 2012 9:11 am

Warskull

Alpha Tester

Joined: Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:15 am
Posts: 154

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

Hold to Fire is design 101. There are so many other example of developers trying the click for each shot mechanic and people hating it. It is just s*** design.

If you hold down the first button pistols should fire full-auto. The sabre should auto-fire the second it goes red if you hold down the mouse button.

Anyone who thinks clicking the mouse as fast as they can is a 'skill' this game revolves around is brain damaged.

Last edited by Warskull on Sun May 06, 2012 3:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Fri May 04, 2012 3:17 am

starlinvf

Beta Tester

Joined: Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:31 am
Posts: 1478

Re: LAR & Click-to-Fire. HiRez, it's time...

Oroibahazopi wrote:

Punkbuster did it anyway. The situation is very similar to Torrents, where a legitimate use is vastly outweighed the illegitimate ones, except AHK can be highly disruptive to the game.

Detection is obviously a losing battle, but there are ways to address common abuses through game mechanics.

_________________
"Even if it is just a gimmick, you can bet it'll be a crowd pleaser to see a player's feet kick up in the air and initiate a top down attack."

Fri May 04, 2012 3:34 am

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