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FluffDaSheep Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am Posts: 473	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs DibbzTheLoner wrote: 1 more Fractal? Oh god no.... that only exacerbates the current problem of Brute Fractal-reliance. Want brute buffs on one hand, consider fractals a "problem" on the other. I remember why I gave up on this forum. I've said all I had to say on this patch.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:12 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs FluffDaSheep wrote: DibbzTheLoner wrote: 1 more Fractal? Oh god no.... that only exacerbates the current problem of Brute Fractal-reliance. Want brute buffs on one hand, consider fractals a "problem" on the other. I remember why I gave up on this forum. I've said all I had to say on this patch. .... Reading is overrated I know but just try it >.< The problem is in BRTs often needing to rely (as I said "problem of Brute Fractal-reliance") on Fractals in order to do well; giving them 1 more just makes that even more of a crutch. Buffing the other BRT equipment pieces will give him a purpose beyond acting as a Fractal Deployment System. PS: Thanks for being so condescending; you really are making this forum such a better place :/ _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much! Last edited by DibbzTheLoner on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:12 am, edited 1 time in total.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:31 am

naqel Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:58 am Posts: 344	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs DibbzTheLoner wrote: Fractal Deployment System I smell a new primary. _________________ patchnotes wrote: Voicepacks are now available to purchase.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:38 am

Pkunk Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:42 am Posts: 351	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs The Brute need the Jugger disc grenades. I feel like an idiot each time I forget that I pack useless grenades and throws a fractal after folks outside.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:50 am

MrLordcaptain Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm Posts: 654	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs Pkunk wrote: The Brute need the Jugger disc grenades. I feel like an idiot each time I forget that I pack useless grenades and throws a fractal after folks outside. It would fit the BRTs theme a lot better than the JUG and he could have use of (srsly buffed) stickies. d*** now I want them... _________________ Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns
Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:53 am

desolatedlunatic Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 509	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs Nooo! Nooo! Brutes are fine! You need to learn to love updates as they come! _________________ cyber-raptor67 wrote: but because of the fact that you instanly fire when you first press you left mouse click you just need the "reload time" to kill
Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:57 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs desolatedlunatic wrote: Nooo! Nooo! Brutes are fine! You need to learn to love updates as they come! Slay the non-believer! BURN THE HERETIC! GSDDGOSKFHDFHR _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:13 am

FluffDaSheep Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am Posts: 473	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs DibbzTheLoner wrote: FluffDaSheep wrote: DibbzTheLoner wrote: 1 more Fractal? Oh god no.... that only exacerbates the current problem of Brute Fractal-reliance. Want brute buffs on one hand, consider fractals a "problem" on the other. I remember why I gave up on this forum. I've said all I had to say on this patch. .... Reading is overrated I know but just try it >.< The problem is in BRTs often needing to rely (as I said "problem of Brute Fractal-reliance") on Fractals in order to do well; giving them 1 more just makes that even more of a crutch. Buffing the other BRT equipment pieces will give him a purpose beyond acting as a Fractal Deployment System. I said buff the HSF, didn't I? In fact, that's the first thing I said. Take your own advice and read my posts. You're right that the Brute relies on the fractal. You're wrong that this is a "problem", or that the grenade is a "crutch". The fractal is part of the Brute's loadout and like it or not, it is pretty much his signature weapon. Giving the Brute another fractal would make the class more viable. The Brute actually had the extra fractal for months in the beta; the only problem was the damage vs. generators, and that was fixed. Then, inexplicably, they took away one fractal. I can think of only two reasons why you'd argue against giving it back: you either simply do not like fractal spam, or you think fractal spam is bad for the game. The former is a terrible basis for your argument, while the latter is, well, wrong - though I can see how you may think that, as I once thought the same. The game has its share of problems, but fractal spam really isn't one of them. The feedback on this forum usually doesn't get anywhere because players can't put aside their personal interest when discussing balance changes. Or anything, for that matter. I hardly even play Brute, and I think fractals are pretty annoying. Doesn't change the fact they could use another one.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:32 am

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs FluffDaSheep wrote: I hardly even play Brute, and I think fractals are pretty annoying. Doesn't change the fact they could use another one. Wait, are you trying to convince me into agreeing with your view or are you trying the exact opposite? _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:38 am

Frostiken Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:42 am Posts: 1045	Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs 95% of Brutes just spew fractals out of every orifice moments before they die trying to get cheap, skilless aftermath kills. They don't need more than one, much less FOUR.
Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:26 am

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FluffDaSheep

Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am
Posts: 473

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

1 more Fractal? Oh god no.... that only exacerbates the current problem of Brute Fractal-reliance.

Want brute buffs on one hand, consider fractals a "problem" on the other.

I remember why I gave up on this forum. I've said all I had to say on this patch.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:12 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

FluffDaSheep wrote:

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

1 more Fractal? Oh god no.... that only exacerbates the current problem of Brute Fractal-reliance.

Want brute buffs on one hand, consider fractals a "problem" on the other.

I remember why I gave up on this forum. I've said all I had to say on this patch.

.... Reading is overrated I know but just try it >.<

The problem is in BRTs often needing to rely (as I said "problem of Brute Fractal-reliance") on Fractals in order to do well; giving them 1 more just makes that even more of a crutch.
Buffing the other BRT equipment pieces will give him a purpose beyond acting as a Fractal Deployment System.

PS: Thanks for being so condescending; you really are making this forum such a better place :/

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This signature is green. I like the colour green.
Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green.
Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!

Last edited by DibbzTheLoner on Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:12 am, edited 1 time in total.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:31 am

naqel

Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:58 am
Posts: 344

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

Fractal Deployment System

I smell a new primary.

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patchnotes wrote:

Voicepacks are now available to purchase.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:38 am

Pkunk

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 5:42 am
Posts: 351

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

The Brute need the Jugger disc grenades. I feel like an idiot each time I forget that I pack useless grenades and throws a fractal after folks outside.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:50 am

MrLordcaptain

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm
Posts: 654

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

Pkunk wrote:

The Brute need the Jugger disc grenades. I feel like an idiot each time I forget that I pack useless grenades and throws a fractal after folks outside.

It would fit the BRTs theme a lot better than the JUG and he could have use of (srsly buffed) stickies.

d*** now I want them...

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Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:53 am

desolatedlunatic

Joined: Wed Feb 29, 2012 5:49 pm
Posts: 509

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

Nooo! Nooo! Brutes are fine! You need to learn to love updates as they come!

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cyber-raptor67 wrote:

but because of the fact that you instanly fire when you first press you left mouse click you just need the "reload time" to kill

Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:57 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

desolatedlunatic wrote:

Nooo! Nooo! Brutes are fine! You need to learn to love updates as they come!

Slay the non-believer! BURN THE HERETIC! GSDDGOSKFHDFHR

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:13 am

FluffDaSheep

Joined: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:08 am
Posts: 473

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

FluffDaSheep wrote:

DibbzTheLoner wrote:

1 more Fractal? Oh god no.... that only exacerbates the current problem of Brute Fractal-reliance.

Want brute buffs on one hand, consider fractals a "problem" on the other.
I remember why I gave up on this forum. I've said all I had to say on this patch.

I said buff the HSF, didn't I? In fact, that's the first thing I said. Take your own advice and read my posts.

You're right that the Brute relies on the fractal. You're wrong that this is a "problem", or that the grenade is a "crutch". The fractal is part of the Brute's loadout and like it or not, it is pretty much his signature weapon. Giving the Brute another fractal would make the class more viable.

The Brute actually had the extra fractal for months in the beta; the only problem was the damage vs. generators, and that was fixed. Then, inexplicably, they took away one fractal. I can think of only two reasons why you'd argue against giving it back: you either simply do not like fractal spam, or you think fractal spam is bad for the game. The former is a terrible basis for your argument, while the latter is, well, wrong - though I can see how you may think that, as I once thought the same. The game has its share of problems, but fractal spam really isn't one of them.

The feedback on this forum usually doesn't get anywhere because players can't put aside their personal interest when discussing balance changes. Or anything, for that matter. I hardly even play Brute, and I think fractals are pretty annoying. Doesn't change the fact they could use another one.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:32 am

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
Posts: 1616
Location: Australia
Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

FluffDaSheep wrote:

I hardly even play Brute, and I think fractals are pretty annoying. Doesn't change the fact they could use another one.

Wait, are you trying to convince me into agreeing with your view or are you trying the exact opposite? :lol:

Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:38 am

Frostiken

Joined: Sat Dec 25, 2010 12:42 am
Posts: 1045

Re: PETITION: BRT Buffs

95% of Brutes just spew fractals out of every orifice moments before they die trying to get cheap, skilless aftermath kills. They don't need more than one, much less FOUR.

Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:26 am

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