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joyrock Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:31 am Posts: 122	Re: Automatic weapon balance? ...... I'm really not sure if they need tweaking or if I'm just sour grapeing about being mowed down by a select handful of players that pulse their shields making them effectively invulnerable and aim like bots. Personally I think the SMGs need some spread to the fire or some kickback (overheating?), at present they fire in a perfect line of bullets. They would still be useful at close-med range but there would be some notable accuracy falloffs and no more long range scalpel action. Its also sad that they are so ping dependent 20-40ping being the window for total SMG pwnage. Not saying you can't wtfpwn with an SMG above that but a lower ping puts you at a direct advantage.
Tue May 15, 2012 9:37 pm

MortarionX Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:00 pm Posts: 60	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Even with the amount of people voting C, I doubt it will ever happen.
Tue May 15, 2012 11:20 pm

DibbzTheLoner Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am Posts: 1616 Location: Australia Steam Gamer Name: Dibbz	Re: Automatic weapon balance? MortarionX wrote: Even with the amount of people voting C, I doubt it will ever happen. HiRez really hates to make balance changes it seems.... they consider anything less than 99% of people demanding a specific change insignificant. _________________ This signature is green. I like the colour green. Wait, why are you still reading? It should be obvious that this signature is pointless and just here to be green. Stop reading already! You're procrastinating too much!
Wed May 16, 2012 3:17 am

Pawndemonium Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:00 pm Posts: 659 Location: at home	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Can't blame them, those 99% have terrible suggestions to begin with, if any at all. But good thing we have a poll on something a 200 page thread totally didn't come up with, was too lazy to read that one anyway. In its current state those automatics make the game, have them nerfed and the whole metagame is screwed up, just because it takes even less effort to spam the flagstand from afar and faceroll it afterwards with high speed. Although the Falcon needs to be looked at, I give you that one. (B for me btw.) _________________ Best Blog EU I'm posting that in a tuxedo suit, so you better take me seriously! "ululul I is right becuz Blizzard, hurr durr, proven proven ulul"
Wed May 16, 2012 3:47 am

FreaK367 Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm Posts: 587 Location: England Steam Gamer Name: FreaK	Re: Automatic weapon balance? This should not be on page 3. Bump Look at the results of this poll Hi-Rez, and take action, stop ignoring this glaring issue _________________ Desired: Bind VGS commands to keys. Full XP Refund for free/gold. (cheap) Large Automatic Nerfs Decent Plasma Gun Nerf Large Jackal Nerf
Fri May 18, 2012 11:24 pm

UniversalPie Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm Posts: 619 Location: GTA Ontario	Re: Automatic weapon balance? I guess since nothings been done about em, nothings wrong with em. Just like the physics and wind resistance and all that. I found this thing with realistic physics and awesome visuals, its called the universe, and its pretty cool. I'm gonna take my tea, and my telescope, sit outside and look at parts of it. I bet there are exoplanets out there with varying gravity, winds, and 100% inheritance. _________________
Sat May 19, 2012 1:21 am

Immie Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm Posts: 1310	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Guy with sword = players who never use automatics but insist on calling them OP _________________ Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes.
Sat May 19, 2012 1:52 am

-AEnubis- Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am Posts: 4823 Location: NA East	Re: Automatic weapon balance? I really want to see my personal weapon stats. At least if I can see that numerically they are ahead of the curve, I won't feel so inclined to constantly argue with posts like the one above. I haven't used the MKD since the megapatch, I used the Thumper for like 3 maps just to try it and motion sensors out, and I occasionally use the SF just for fun, but typically lean AR/TDX due to how gimped the Eagle is in comparison. I've even recently started using the Rhino again to see how it fares vs the Jackal, and try this LoF thing I read about in a thread. I'm also an avid CG buff, and I tell you what, this seems to be the major difference in whether or not I top the scoreboard. If I'm using an auto I'm proficient with, it's easy money. I'm not as good with the AR, but if I'm using the Rhino, TCN4, CG, or the X1, I'm usually leading my team. I'm also not a gen player, so if I'm getting a bonus, is the meager 200 pt flag defender, and I imagine this is also why I'm not as successful with the NJ4. I'm just not as good at being where the action is as the RDR. I don't want to, but I use them, because they are significantly superior. _________________ Physics \| CTF Scoring \| Team Selection
Sat May 19, 2012 2:45 am

UniversalPie Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm Posts: 619 Location: GTA Ontario	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Immie wrote: Guy with sword = players who never use automatics but insist on calling them OP For over 3 weeks, I've used nothing but autos, and they're OP like crazy. _________________
Sat May 19, 2012 2:47 am

hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: Automatic weapon balance? UniversalPie wrote: For over 3 weeks, I've used nothing but autos, and they're OP like crazy. 'Cause, as we all know, the anecdotes of highly subjective experiences that people often post in game forums are mostly true... _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options.
Sat May 19, 2012 4:28 am

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joyrock

Joined: Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:31 am
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Re: Automatic weapon balance?

...... I'm really not sure if they need tweaking or if I'm just sour grapeing about being mowed down by a select handful of players that pulse their shields making them effectively invulnerable and aim like bots.

Personally I think the SMGs need some spread to the fire or some kickback (overheating?), at present they fire in a perfect line of bullets. They would still be useful at close-med range but there would be some notable accuracy falloffs and no more long range scalpel action.

Its also sad that they are so ping dependent 20-40ping being the window for total SMG pwnage. Not saying you can't wtfpwn with an SMG above that but a lower ping puts you at a direct advantage.

Tue May 15, 2012 9:37 pm

MortarionX

Joined: Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:00 pm
Posts: 60

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Even with the amount of people voting C, I doubt it will ever happen.

Tue May 15, 2012 11:20 pm

DibbzTheLoner

Joined: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:30 am
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Location: Australia
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Re: Automatic weapon balance?

MortarionX wrote:

Even with the amount of people voting C, I doubt it will ever happen.

HiRez really hates to make balance changes it seems.... they consider anything less than 99% of people demanding a specific change insignificant.

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Wed May 16, 2012 3:17 am

Pawndemonium

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Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Can't blame them, those 99% have terrible suggestions to begin with, if any at all.
But good thing we have a poll on something a 200 page thread totally didn't come up with, was too lazy to read that one anyway.

In its current state those automatics make the game, have them nerfed and the whole metagame is screwed up, just because it takes even less effort to spam the flagstand from afar and faceroll it afterwards with high speed.

Although the Falcon needs to be looked at, I give you that one. (B for me btw.)

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Wed May 16, 2012 3:47 am

FreaK367

Joined: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:53 pm
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Location: England
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Re: Automatic weapon balance?

This should not be on page 3. *Bump*

Look at the results of this poll Hi-Rez, and take action, stop ignoring this glaring issue :evil:

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Fri May 18, 2012 11:24 pm

UniversalPie

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm
Posts: 619
Location: GTA Ontario

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

I guess since nothings been done about em, nothings wrong with em. Just like the physics and wind resistance and all that.

I found this thing with realistic physics and awesome visuals, its called the universe, and its pretty cool. I'm gonna take my tea, and my telescope, sit outside and look at parts of it. I bet there are exoplanets out there with varying gravity, winds, and 100% inheritance.

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Sat May 19, 2012 1:21 am

Immie

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm
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Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Guy with sword = players who never use automatics but insist on calling them OP

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Sat May 19, 2012 1:52 am

-AEnubis-

Joined: Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:40 am
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Location: NA East

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

I really want to see my personal weapon stats. At least if I can see that numerically they are ahead of the curve, I won't feel so inclined to constantly argue with posts like the one above.

I haven't used the MKD since the megapatch, I used the Thumper for like 3 maps just to try it and motion sensors out, and I occasionally use the SF just for fun, but typically lean AR/TDX due to how gimped the Eagle is in comparison. I've even recently started using the Rhino again to see how it fares vs the Jackal, and try this LoF thing I read about in a thread. I'm also an avid CG buff, and I tell you what, this seems to be the major difference in whether or not I top the scoreboard. If I'm using an auto I'm proficient with, it's easy money. I'm not as good with the AR, but if I'm using the Rhino, TCN4, CG, or the X1, I'm usually leading my team. I'm also not a gen player, so if I'm getting a bonus, is the meager 200 pt flag defender, and I imagine this is also why I'm not as successful with the NJ4. I'm just not as good at being where the action is as the RDR.

I don't want to, but I use them, because they are significantly superior.

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Sat May 19, 2012 2:45 am

UniversalPie

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm
Posts: 619
Location: GTA Ontario

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Immie wrote:

Guy with sword = players who never use automatics but insist on calling them OP

For over 3 weeks, I've used nothing but autos, and they're OP like crazy.

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Sat May 19, 2012 2:47 am

hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
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Re: Automatic weapon balance?

UniversalPie wrote:

For over 3 weeks, I've used nothing but autos, and they're OP like crazy.

'Cause, as we all know, the anecdotes of highly subjective experiences that people often post in game forums are mostly true...

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Sat May 19, 2012 4:28 am

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