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Cyberlink Community Agent Joined: Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:27 pm Posts: 3058 Location: Dallas, TX USA Steam Gamer Name: Cyberlink119	Automatic weapon balance? Feel free to elaborate why you voted the way you did. Be constructive. _________________ I am a community volunteer. I am not a Hi-Rez employee. Views expressed by me are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views of Hi-Rez Studios or its affiliates. Issues? Please see The BIG FIX Post -OR- Open a support ticket Play, learn, chat with others? ts6.gameservers.com:9148
Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:55 am

Tharnes Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:36 am Posts: 382	Re: Automatic weapon balance? B SMGs and LMG need some tweaking (NJ4... ) But AR and CG are fine / weak compared to SMGs. _________________
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:02 pm

Tamburlaine Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am Posts: 1859	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Hmm. Now if I vote "minor", am I saying "minor" like the last buff the Nova Colt got? Hi-Rez's definition of minor? Or am I saying minor relative to "drop their damage by half, drop their ammo by half, add cone of fire and screen shake and bloom and add a 0.5% chance that each bullet will seduce your fiancee the day before your wedding"? THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION OF MY LIFE. _________________ oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:05 pm

SickSpider Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:41 am Posts: 362 Location: BC, Canada	Re: Automatic weapon balance? So, I voted C.. the only reason I voted that and not D is 'cause all that needs to be done is change the travel of the bullets, not straight, just add random spreed and I'll be happy! All MG, in a way, are still hitScan, FIX physics so we could jet left/right in low/high speeds, than when flying towards someone I will be able to dodge around and move so it will not be so easy to just follow me. And like I said before, add randomness to the bullets. _________________ You want your flag back!? GO GET IT! I prefer to try a MAD and miss than pulling a strike and succeed! Sick montages(!) Weekly/Monthly BPS fun (blushing)
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:07 pm

Immie Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm Posts: 1310	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Voted B; we just need 100% inheritance, possibly a small change to how damage falloff works, and maybe some minor ROF tweaks for specific weapons. _________________ Sorry but you cannot use search at this time. Please try again in a few minutes.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 pm

Tamburlaine Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am Posts: 1859	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Aside from the definition of minor, I am wracked by other great problems this day. Specifically, most of my problems with automatics are less "balance" in my mind and more "general design". That is, there is little correlation between what a weapon is and what it does. The assault rifle is closer to the machine pistol (which fires faster than the gatling gun) than it is to the light assault rifle. The light assault rifle - a "chasing gun" - has slower projectiles than the light machine gun (yet the bullets have the same speed as the LMG's big brother, the chain gun...). These are things that cause great confusion in my mind-bone. Aside from that stuff, most of my complaints about "how autos work" in this game come from things not directly related to their damage, rate of fire, accuracy, etc. They have to do with weapon switch speeds, ROF/projectile speeds of spinfusors, and the like. Also, f*** screenshake. _________________ oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:24 pm

RaindanceFOREVA Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:29 pm Posts: 128	Re: Automatic weapon balance? C. I think they were implemented well in tribes 1 where your first couple shots were accurate, but the longer you kept firing the worse the aim became. I mean, thats pretty much common sense to implement it that way ya know? This way its fine to finish off an enemy that might be wounded but you can't blatantly spam as your primary tactic.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:26 pm

CreativeConstraints Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:17 am Posts: 1196	Re: Automatic weapon balance? Tribes 1 has by far the most rapetastic chaingun in the entire series.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:28 pm

DizcoDuck Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:25 pm Posts: 66	Re: Automatic weapon balance? C Even though I don't feel they don't fit the tribes style of play in their current state, I am not completely opposed to them. They just shouldn't be primary weapons. As they are currently, they shred through people way too quickly. In previous Tribes games they were finishing weapons. The spinfusor should be the primary weapon in this game. The autos just need to be less accurate and deal less damage. The Doombringer chaingun should also have a 100 round clip or an overheat system. How is it that the tank's gun has a 100 round clip, but the Doombringer doesn't? It's ridiculous that they can spray and pray for as long as they have ammo.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:28 pm

OP-Judas Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:44 am Posts: 195	Re: Automatic weapon balance? C. I really cant see why the autos should have less inheritence and be twice as strong as grace weapons _________________ I pwnd Jesus
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:32 pm

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Cyberlink

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Automatic weapon balance?

Feel free to elaborate why you voted the way you did.
Be constructive.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:55 am

Tharnes

Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:36 am
Posts: 382

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

B
SMGs and LMG need some tweaking (NJ4... :roll:

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But AR and CG are fine / weak compared to SMGs.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:02 pm

Tamburlaine

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 1859

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Hmm. Now if I vote "minor", am I saying "minor" like the last buff the Nova Colt got? Hi-Rez's definition of minor?

Or am I saying minor relative to "drop their damage by half, drop their ammo by half, add cone of fire and screen shake and bloom and add a 0.5% chance that each bullet will seduce your fiancee the day before your wedding"?

THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT DECISION OF MY LIFE.

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oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:05 pm

SickSpider

Joined: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:41 am
Posts: 362
Location: BC, Canada

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

So, I voted C.. the only reason I voted that and not D is 'cause all that needs to be done is change the travel of the bullets, not straight, just add random spreed and I'll be happy!

All MG, in a way, are still hitScan, FIX physics so we could jet left/right in low/high speeds, than when flying towards someone I will be able to dodge around and move so it will not be so easy to just follow me.
And like I said before, add randomness to the bullets.

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You want your flag back!? GO GET IT!
I prefer to try a MAD and miss than pulling a strike and succeed!

Sick montages(!)
Weekly/Monthly BPS fun (blushing)

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:07 pm

Immie

Joined: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:10 pm
Posts: 1310

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Voted B; we just need 100% inheritance, possibly a small change to how damage falloff works, and maybe some minor ROF tweaks for specific weapons.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:13 pm

Tamburlaine

Joined: Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:13 am
Posts: 1859

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Aside from the definition of minor, I am wracked by other great problems this day.

Specifically, most of my problems with automatics are less "balance" in my mind and more "general design". That is, there is little correlation between what a weapon is and what it does. The assault rifle is closer to the machine pistol (which fires faster than the gatling gun) than it is to the light assault rifle. The light assault rifle - a "chasing gun" - has slower projectiles than the light machine gun (yet the bullets have the same speed as the LMG's big brother, the chain gun...). These are things that cause great confusion in my mind-bone.

Aside from that stuff, most of my complaints about "how autos work" in this game come from things not directly related to their damage, rate of fire, accuracy, etc. They have to do with weapon switch speeds, ROF/projectile speeds of spinfusors, and the like.

Also, f*** screenshake.

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oh god where does this link go how did it get here I am not good with computer

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:24 pm

RaindanceFOREVA

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:29 pm
Posts: 128

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

C.

I think they were implemented well in tribes 1 where your first couple shots were accurate, but the longer you kept firing the worse the aim became. I mean, thats pretty much common sense to implement it that way ya know?

This way its fine to finish off an enemy that might be wounded but you can't blatantly spam as your primary tactic.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:26 pm

CreativeConstraints

Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:17 am
Posts: 1196

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

Tribes 1 has by far the most rapetastic chaingun in the entire series.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:28 pm

DizcoDuck

Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:25 pm
Posts: 66

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

C

Even though I don't feel they don't fit the tribes style of play in their current state, I am not completely opposed to them. They just shouldn't be primary weapons. As they are currently, they shred through people way too quickly. In previous Tribes games they were finishing weapons. The spinfusor should be the primary weapon in this game. The autos just need to be less accurate and deal less damage. The Doombringer chaingun should also have a 100 round clip or an overheat system. How is it that the tank's gun has a 100 round clip, but the Doombringer doesn't? It's ridiculous that they can spray and pray for as long as they have ammo.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:28 pm

OP-Judas

Joined: Sun Mar 18, 2012 5:44 am
Posts: 195

Re: Automatic weapon balance?

C. I really cant see why the autos should have less inheritence and be twice as strong as grace weapons

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:32 pm

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