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ZoomZon Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:50 pm Posts: 271	Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time Why not have lock-on time be a function of distance (between the DMB and the Shrike)? More specifically, the further the Shrike is away from the DMB, the longer it takes for the saber launcher to lock-on. This would solve two sets of problems: 1. DMBs complain that missiles are ineffective against Shrikes. Which is completely true. Assuming that the close-range lock-on time is sufficiently short, DMBs could position themselves to actually have a chance at knocking a Shrike out of the sky. 2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying. Much of this annoyance derives from the fact that if a DMB launches a missile at you from across the map, now you have to wait ten seconds hiding behind some hill. Well, with an increased lock-on timer for long-distance, the Shrike doesn't have to worry as much about someone from the opposite end of the map annoying them all day. What do you all think?
Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:23 pm

Rimoha Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:07 am Posts: 291 Location: near Venice	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time ZoomZon wrote: 2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying. Wait what? _________________ Please support the cause for better CTF PUB games! IGN: h4ppyj3d1 \| EU servers \| I'll gladly switch nickname with something better if it'll be possible but, I can't stand spending gold for something like this.
Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:36 pm

ZoomZon Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:50 pm Posts: 271	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time Rimoha wrote: ZoomZon wrote: 2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying. Wait what? DMB fires a missile at you from halfway across the map. You hide behind a will, wait ten seconds for the missile to strike the ground, and then go on your way. The missiles are easy to avoid, but doing so is annoying due to the downtime.
Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:14 pm

Amon Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:12 am Posts: 60 Location: Shanghai	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time Only bad shrikers play this way... Good shrikers only "shift their priorities for a short moment" when locked on _________________ Better to create worlds than living in one ...
Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:52 pm

Pingles Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:28 pm Posts: 1733	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time Amon wrote: Only bad shrikers play this way... Good shrikers only "shift their priorities for a short moment" when locked on It's true. There are good Shrike pilots out there who will avoid every missile I send at them but never stray from their mission. It's kinda cool to see. Luckily, the vast majority of Shrike pilots flip out and go running for the hills (literally). _________________
Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:57 pm

w1mark Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:34 pm Posts: 248	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time Lockon speed could also vary by how well you track your target. For instance, if your saber launcher is dead center with your target, it will lockon faster than if your saber launcher was hovering around it. Also, heat from jetpacks should come back to the game to determine your lockon to players. The longer you keep your jetpack on, the larger/faster the hitbox is to lockon to the player. This would also mean you can lockon to people who are on the ground but just used their jetpack but their hitbox would be smaller because the ground is hotter than the air, which means it's harder to lockon. For simplicty sake, "heat" could be considered as how much energy you have spent. So using all of your jetpack would mean your heat bar would be at 100%.
Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:44 pm

MrLordcaptain Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm Posts: 654	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time good ideas. +1 _________________ Remove hitscan from pistols and shotguns
Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:20 pm

NiXXeD Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:02 am Posts: 657	Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time Rimoha wrote: ZoomZon wrote: 2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying. Wait what? It's an annoying mechanic. Having constant beeping while you play is annoying, yea? Knowing that some dude is literally sitting on his thumb pressing 1 button makes it more annoying. While the suggestion sounds like an improvement, I think there need to be larger changes to the saber to fix it. There have been many threads so I won't go into the various suggested solutions.
Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:14 am

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ZoomZon

Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:50 pm
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Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

Why not have lock-on time be a function of distance (between the DMB and the Shrike)? More specifically, the further the Shrike is away from the DMB, the longer it takes for the saber launcher to lock-on.

This would solve two sets of problems:
1. DMBs complain that missiles are ineffective against Shrikes. Which is completely true. Assuming that the close-range lock-on time is sufficiently short, DMBs could position themselves to actually have a chance at knocking a Shrike out of the sky.

2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying. Much of this annoyance derives from the fact that if a DMB launches a missile at you from across the map, now you have to wait ten seconds hiding behind some hill. Well, with an increased lock-on timer for long-distance, the Shrike doesn't have to worry as much about someone from the opposite end of the map annoying them all day.

What do you all think?

Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:23 pm

Rimoha

Joined: Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:07 am
Posts: 291
Location: near Venice

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

ZoomZon wrote:

2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying.

Wait what?

_________________

Please support the cause for better CTF PUB games!
IGN: h4ppyj3d1 | EU servers |

I'll gladly switch nickname with something better if it'll be possible but, I can't stand spending gold for something like this.

Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:36 pm

ZoomZon

Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:50 pm
Posts: 271

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

Rimoha wrote:

ZoomZon wrote:

2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying.

Wait what?

DMB fires a missile at you from halfway across the map. You hide behind a will, wait ten seconds for the missile to strike the ground, and then go on your way. The missiles are easy to avoid, but doing so is annoying due to the downtime.

Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:14 pm

Amon

Joined: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:12 am
Posts: 60
Location: Shanghai

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

Only bad shrikers play this way...

Good shrikers only "shift their priorities for a short moment" when locked on 8-)

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Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:52 pm

Pingles

Joined: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:28 pm
Posts: 1733

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

Amon wrote:

Only bad shrikers play this way...

Good shrikers only "shift their priorities for a short moment" when locked on 8-)

It's true. There are good Shrike pilots out there who will avoid every missile I send at them but never stray from their mission. It's kinda cool to see.

Luckily, the vast majority of Shrike pilots flip out and go running for the hills (literally).

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Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:57 pm

w1mark

Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 3:34 pm
Posts: 248

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

Lockon speed could also vary by how well you track your target. For instance, if your saber launcher is dead center with your target, it will lockon faster than if your saber launcher was hovering around it.

Also, heat from jetpacks should come back to the game to determine your lockon to players. The longer you keep your jetpack on, the larger/faster the hitbox is to lockon to the player. This would also mean you can lockon to people who are on the ground but just used their jetpack but their hitbox would be smaller because the ground is hotter than the air, which means it's harder to lockon.

For simplicty sake, "heat" could be considered as how much energy you have spent. So using all of your jetpack would mean your heat bar would be at 100%.

Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:44 pm

MrLordcaptain

Joined: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:42 pm
Posts: 654

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

good ideas.

+1

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Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:20 pm

NiXXeD

Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:02 am
Posts: 657

Re: Saber Launcher Solution: Variable Lock-On Time

Rimoha wrote:

ZoomZon wrote:

2. Shrikers complain that DMB missiles are extremely annoying.

Wait what?

It's an annoying mechanic. Having constant beeping while you play is annoying, yea? Knowing that some dude is literally sitting on his thumb pressing 1 button makes it more annoying.

While the suggestion sounds like an improvement, I think there need to be larger changes to the saber to fix it. There have been many threads so I won't go into the various suggested solutions.

Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:14 am

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