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pzea469 Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:40 am Posts: 1206	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag I would start playing again if this was implemented. There's really no reason not to have it given the high demand. And about floating discs, what's the problem with that? It happens in real life too, assuming you had a disc that had antigravity on it or something. There's no problem with that.
Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:46 am

Wobberjockey Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am Posts: 8726 Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag agreed. i'd LOVE to set every weapon in the game to either 100, 0, or default inheritance. set everything to 100, save maybe the plasmagun and it would be awesome _________________ original art at http://tinyurl.com/shazbotsig The Tribes READ ME. Quite possibly the most important thread you'll never read
Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:32 am

Schottingham Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm Posts: 644	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag Bumping this. Give us the option. _________________ - Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video) - Remove regen, bring back health kits - Buff explosive jumping - 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)
Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:02 pm

bigblobchinny Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:24 pm Posts: 96	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag lol at these clowns who apparently do not play a futuristic sci fi game with jetpacks and frictionless boots because it does not have real world physics get out of here with your weirdo 100% inheritance cult no one cares about this besides a small group of very strange and very vocal individuals play the game, you'll adapt to the physics very quickly. or dont. again, no one cares. if you people are really that insistent on 100% inheritance you wouldn't have played any of the previous tribes games either, since none of them had it. go play something else. stop posting. weirdos.
Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:58 pm

Elysiume Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm Posts: 1058	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag I'm just going to request that nobody respond to bigblobchinny. Nobody can make a post that bad unless they're trolling. +1 for the server flag. _________________ 100% inheritance is something the game needs. Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.
Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:05 pm

MarcDaKind Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 am Posts: 390 Location: Skiing on the mountains of Norway! Steam Gamer Name: MarcDaKind	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag bigblobchinny wrote: lol at these clowns who apparently do not play a futuristic sci fi game with jetpacks and frictionless boots because it does not have real world physics get out of here with your weirdo 100% inheritance cult no one cares about this besides a small group of very strange and very vocal individuals play the game, you'll adapt to the physics very quickly. or dont. again, no one cares. if you people are really that insistent on 100% inheritance you wouldn't have played any of the previous tribes games either, since none of them had it. go play something else. stop posting. weirdos. What an a-"divided by zero"! +1 This will get me back to playing again, and I think we deserve it after making all those treads in beta. It should not take long time to implement, as we could do it in console by our self in a matter of seconds... _________________ It's not about 100% inheritance being a higher or lower value than another. It's about any other value being to low, or to high.
Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:09 pm

Wobberjockey Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am Posts: 8726 Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag bigblobchinny wrote: lol at these clowns who apparently do not play a futuristic sci fi game with jetpacks and frictionless boots because it does not have real world physics get out of here with your weirdo 100% inheritance cult no one cares about this besides a small group of very strange and very vocal individuals play the game, you'll adapt to the physics very quickly. or dont. again, no one cares. if you people are really that insistent on 100% inheritance you wouldn't have played any of the previous tribes games either, since none of them had it. go play something else. stop posting. weirdos. have you EVER made a post without baseless attacking someone? you know...This guy is starting to sound familiar... _________________ original art at http://tinyurl.com/shazbotsig The Tribes READ ME. Quite possibly the most important thread you'll never read
Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:38 pm

SmoothP Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:28 am Posts: 1583	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag pzea469 wrote: Will this flag exist? If it won't, I would like to know why. A single good reason would be nice. "True inheritance would add depth and strategy to punting, potentially causing new players to become confused by strange and unintuitive (to our internal testers) 'sideways' passing techniques. Thus, there are no plans for a server flag at this point, but we haven't ruled it out completely, so keep playing and stay tuned!" _________________ Give a man a pistol, and he'll play for a day... Teach a man to disc, and he'll stay devoted forever. Loadouts 2.0 - Directional Jets - True Inheritance - Cosine Splash - Active Regen - Abolish Credits
Tue May 01, 2012 12:05 am

Tricksy Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:46 pm Posts: 33	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag Sane physics demands 100% inheritance. The only exception would be energy weapons since momentum doesn't apply. Work in some approximation of air resistance is one thing, but partial inheritance doesn't accomplish that, only slowing down the projectile would. A physical projectile should always leave your gun at the same speed relative to the gun, no matter how fast the gun is moving, and whether or not the projectile slows down much after being fired. Anything else is just fantastic nonsense. If 100% inheritance was implemented as a flag, I'd refuse to play on any other server. SmoothP wrote: "True inheritance would add depth and strategy to punting, potentially causing new players to become confused by strange and unintuitive (to our internal testers) 'sideways' passing techniques. Thus, there are no plans for a server flag at this point, but we haven't ruled it out completely, so keep playing and stay tuned!" I don't think that's good enough. Flags would clearly have pretty high air resistance. At any significant speed, passing it between players should be like two moving cyclists trying to pass a balloon (still 100% inheritance, though). If flags were designed to be more like a pole or ball or something, then sideways passing is entirely intuitive. Maybe that Hires' testers thought this was unintuitive hints at how the weirdass physics got into this game.
Tue May 01, 2012 1:17 am

Schottingham Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm Posts: 644	Re: True Inheritance Server Flag Tricksy wrote: Sane physics demands 100% inheritance. The only exception would be energy weapons since momentum doesn't apply. Actually it does! Photons have momentum, and plasma/ions have mass (but not much of it). The latter would probably be heavily affected by air resistance, unless magnetically contained or something...in which case, maybe you could impose some kind of 0% inheritance behavior with future space technology. But otherwise it would inherit the shooter's velocity just like anything else. _________________ - Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video) - Remove regen, bring back health kits - Buff explosive jumping - 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)
Tue May 01, 2012 4:19 am

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pzea469

Joined: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:40 am
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Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

I would start playing again if this was implemented. There's really no reason not to have it given the high demand. And about floating discs, what's the problem with that? It happens in real life too, assuming you had a disc that had antigravity on it or something. There's no problem with that.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:46 am

Wobberjockey

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Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am
Posts: 8726
Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

agreed.

i'd LOVE to set every weapon in the game to either 100, 0, or default inheritance.

set everything to 100, save maybe the plasmagun and it would be awesome

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Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:32 am

Schottingham

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm
Posts: 644

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

Bumping this. Give us the option.

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- Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video)
- Remove regen, bring back health kits
- Buff explosive jumping
- 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)

Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:02 pm

bigblobchinny

Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 6:24 pm
Posts: 96

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

lol at these clowns who apparently do not play a futuristic sci fi game with jetpacks and frictionless boots because it does not have real world physics

get out of here with your weirdo 100% inheritance cult

no one cares about this besides a small group of very strange and very vocal individuals

play the game, you'll adapt to the physics very quickly. or dont. again, no one cares. if you people are really that insistent on 100% inheritance you wouldn't have played any of the previous tribes games either, since none of them had it.

go play something else. stop posting. weirdos.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:58 pm

Elysiume

Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2011 4:33 pm
Posts: 1058

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

I'm just going to request that nobody respond to bigblobchinny. Nobody can make a post that bad unless they're trolling.

+1 for the server flag.

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100% inheritance is something the game needs.
Jetpacks need to behave more like jetpacks, at all speeds.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:05 pm

MarcDaKind

Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:08 am
Posts: 390
Location: Skiing on the mountains of Norway!
Steam Gamer Name: MarcDaKind

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

bigblobchinny wrote:

What an a-"divided by zero"!

+1

This will get me back to playing again, and I think we deserve it after making all those treads in beta. It should not take long time to implement, as we could do it in console by our self in a matter of seconds...

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It's not about 100% inheritance being a higher or lower value than another. It's about any other value being to low, or to high.

Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:09 pm

Wobberjockey

Beta Tester

Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:30 am
Posts: 8726
Location: In a handbasket, heading somewhere

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

bigblobchinny wrote:

have you EVER made a post without baseless attacking someone?

you know...This guy is starting to sound familiar...

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Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:38 pm

SmoothP

Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:28 am
Posts: 1583

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

pzea469 wrote:

Will this flag exist? If it won't, I would like to know why. A single good reason would be nice.

"True inheritance would add depth and strategy to punting, potentially causing new players to become confused by strange and unintuitive (to our internal testers) 'sideways' passing techniques. Thus, there are no plans for a server flag at this point, but we haven't ruled it out completely, so keep playing and stay tuned!"

_________________
Give a man a pistol, and he'll play for a day... Teach a man to disc, and he'll stay devoted forever.
Loadouts 2.0 - Directional Jets - True Inheritance - Cosine Splash - Active Regen - Abolish Credits

Tue May 01, 2012 12:05 am

Tricksy

Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:46 pm
Posts: 33

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

Sane physics demands 100% inheritance. The only exception would be energy weapons since momentum doesn't apply. Work in some approximation of air resistance is one thing, but partial inheritance doesn't accomplish that, only slowing down the projectile would. A physical projectile should always leave your gun at the same speed relative to the gun, no matter how fast the gun is moving, and whether or not the projectile slows down much after being fired. Anything else is just fantastic nonsense.

If 100% inheritance was implemented as a flag, I'd refuse to play on any other server.

SmoothP wrote:

I don't think that's good enough. Flags would clearly have pretty high air resistance. At any significant speed, passing it between players should be like two moving cyclists trying to pass a balloon (still 100% inheritance, though). If flags were designed to be more like a pole or ball or something, then sideways passing is entirely intuitive. Maybe that Hires' testers thought this was unintuitive hints at how the weirdass physics got into this game.

Tue May 01, 2012 1:17 am

Schottingham

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 4:07 pm
Posts: 644

Re: True Inheritance Server Flag

Tricksy wrote:

Sane physics demands 100% inheritance. The only exception would be energy weapons since momentum doesn't apply.

Actually it does! Photons have momentum, and plasma/ions have mass (but not much of it). The latter would probably be heavily affected by air resistance, unless magnetically contained or something...in which case, maybe you could impose some kind of 0% inheritance behavior with future space technology. But otherwise it would inherit the shooter's velocity just like anything else.

_________________
- Fix Jetpack Physics (video) (video)
- Remove regen, bring back health kits
- Buff explosive jumping
- 100% inheritance for "bullet" weapons (nova blaster included)

Tue May 01, 2012 4:19 am

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