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Shaftakovich Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:30 pm Posts: 73	Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much. veribigbos wrote: I like how everyone here is just replying "durr buy vip" when the point was that free players have to play a ton if they want to unlock even 1 gun, which to a free casual player means they're never seeing anything else than the default guns. I mean come on, 100 000 for a single gun, when the normal XP amount per match is around 300-1000? Yeah, sure casuals are gonna play 100 matches (and of course saving all of the XP) just to get 1 silly gun. Yeah..that's kinda the point of a F2P system: if you want to play for free you work you @$$ off to get new content or you come to grips with the fact that you'll always be using older stuff. I know that kinda sucks, but the fact that you can play an entire game FOR FREE means that there has to be some incentive for people to put money into the system - otherwise it will tank and none of us will be able to play. TL;DR: I think XP prices are just fine as long as you have either VIP or boost (or both); Hi-Rez needs to make money. It's not unreasonable to put in the minimum of $10 to unlock VIP to make grinding easier. Either that, or be prepared to pay to grind less.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:36 pm

Emrakul Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:01 am Posts: 191 Location: Runeterra	Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much. veribigbos wrote: I like how everyone here is just replying "durr buy vip" when the point was that free players have to play a ton if they want to unlock even 1 gun, which to a free casual player means they're never seeing anything else than the default guns. I mean come on, 100 000 for a single gun, when the normal XP amount per match is around 300-1000? Yeah, sure casuals are gonna play 100 matches (and of course saving all of the XP) just to get 1 silly gun. All I hear is, "I am entitled to stuff in this game that I have not given any money to the developers for, because I am entitled". The point is if you want to play with the new stuff you have two options, give them 10 bucks, which is less than 2 sandwiches from subway, or play the game more. Deal with it.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:37 pm

LDial Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 am Posts: 1085	Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much. veribigbos wrote: I like how everyone here is just replying "durr buy vip" when the point was that free players have to play a ton if they want to unlock even 1 gun, which to a free casual player means they're never seeing anything else than the default guns. I mean come on, 100 000 for a single gun, when the normal XP amount per match is around 300-1000? Yeah, sure casuals are gonna play 100 matches (and of course saving all of the XP) just to get 1 silly gun. The point is, and never has been, free players. The point is that even repeat, VIP buyers are getting the shaft and squeezed for cash. At the very least what I b** about is the example that I only got half a million XP from token conversion, so despite by 30 bucks spent on the game, I have maybe a third of it unlocked, despite 4 months of playing. I guarantee you, 9/10 times someone says "XP is fine", they got s* loads of token XP.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:49 pm

lithkul Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:49 pm Posts: 67	Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much. I'm not asking for free or entitled to, I have paid my money to the developers, I just feel that the xp is to much for the weapons and such per match you do. What I'm asking is that a 5% increase all around, nothing to major or development team shattering.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:08 pm

LDial Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 am Posts: 1085	Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much. lithkul wrote: I'm not asking for free or entitled to, I have paid my money to the developers, I just feel that the xp is to much for the weapons and such per match you do. What I'm asking is that a 5% increase all around, nothing to major or development team shattering. 5% is so small it makes me wonder why you'd even ask for it. I'd be saying something like VIP being raised to 100% from 50% and gold prices normalized and cut by at least half, or involving more bundles.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:18 pm

derito Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:43 am Posts: 115 Location: 7.99€/mois	Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much. I think the prices are so high because Hirez doesn't intend to add weapons too often. When you already have most of the equipment prices are pretty decent. The problem is that new players are kind of left behind with the ever increasing amount of xp you need to unlock everything but we should see cheap bundles of old items in the future.
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:27 pm

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Shaftakovich

Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:30 pm
Posts: 73

Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much.

veribigbos wrote:

I like how everyone here is just replying "durr buy vip" when the point was that free players have to play a ton if they want to unlock even 1 gun, which to a free casual player means they're never seeing anything else than the default guns.

I mean come on, 100 000 for a single gun, when the normal XP amount per match is around 300-1000? Yeah, sure casuals are gonna play 100 matches (and of course saving all of the XP) just to get 1 silly gun.

Yeah..that's kinda the point of a F2P system: if you want to play for free you work you @$$ off to get new content or you come to grips with the fact that you'll always be using older stuff. I know that kinda sucks, but the fact that you can play an entire game FOR FREE means that there has to be some incentive for people to put money into the system - otherwise it will tank and none of us will be able to play.

TL;DR: I think XP prices are just fine as long as you have either VIP or boost (or both); Hi-Rez needs to make money. It's not unreasonable to put in the minimum of $10 to unlock VIP to make grinding easier. Either that, or be prepared to pay to grind less.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:36 pm

Emrakul

Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:01 am
Posts: 191
Location: Runeterra

Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much.

veribigbos wrote:

All I hear is, "I am entitled to stuff in this game that I have not given any money to the developers for, because I am entitled".

The point is if you want to play with the new stuff you have two options, give them 10 bucks, which is less than 2 sandwiches from subway, or play the game more.

Deal with it.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:37 pm

LDial

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 am
Posts: 1085

Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much.

veribigbos wrote:

The point is, and never has been, free players. The point is that even repeat, VIP buyers are getting the shaft and squeezed for cash. At the very least what I b**** about is the example that I only got half a million XP from token conversion, so despite by 30 bucks spent on the game, I have maybe a third of it unlocked, despite 4 months of playing. I guarantee you, 9/10 times someone says "XP is fine", they got s*** loads of token XP.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:49 pm

lithkul

Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:49 pm
Posts: 67

Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much.

I'm not asking for free or entitled to, I have paid my money to the developers, I just feel that the xp is to much for the weapons and such per match you do. What I'm asking is that a 5% increase all around, nothing to major or development team shattering.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:08 pm

LDial

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 2:43 am
Posts: 1085

Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much.

lithkul wrote:

5% is so small it makes me wonder why you'd even ask for it. I'd be saying something like VIP being raised to 100% from 50% and gold prices normalized and cut by at least half, or involving more bundles.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:18 pm

derito

Joined: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:43 am
Posts: 115
Location: 7.99€/mois

Re: XP unlock price for all main guns to much.

I think the prices are so high because Hirez doesn't intend to add weapons too often. When you already have most of the equipment prices are pretty decent.
The problem is that new players are kind of left behind with the ever increasing amount of xp you need to unlock everything but we should see cheap bundles of old items in the future.

Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:27 pm

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