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RaindanceFOREVA Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:29 pm Posts: 128	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay ncc386 wrote: BAITness wrote: disci wrote: Owait I'm a old Tribes vet who is getting his Tribes fix from this game. I guess I'm one of the few in here who actually played Tribes and not just think they did. Quoting this since you'll be gone in a few months and I want something to remember you by. Edit: After seeing your post in the poll I'm gonna go ahead and call bs on your old tribes vetness. If it's any consolation, I do remember the name 'disci' being in the #tribes in-game IRC that I helped moderate. I don't remember when he came along, but I want to say I remember kicking him more than once? lol I'm not the only one that called BS, thats funny. His lack of maturity really detracts from his "arguments" doesn't it?
Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm

disci Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm Posts: 1025 Location: Winland	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay ncc386 wrote: BAITness wrote: disci wrote: Owait I'm a old Tribes vet who is getting his Tribes fix from this game. I guess I'm one of the few in here who actually played Tribes and not just think they did. Quoting this since you'll be gone in a few months and I want something to remember you by. Edit: After seeing your post in the poll I'm gonna go ahead and call bs on your old tribes vetness. If it's any consolation, I do remember the name 'disci' being in the #tribes in-game IRC that I helped moderate. I don't remember when he came along, but I want to say I remember kicking him more than once? lol I was not using dynamix irc server. You remember DiSk, not me.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:36 pm

Piata Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:27 pm Posts: 81	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay RaindanceFOREVA wrote: disci wrote: I on the other hand did play tribes 1 don't just say I did to strengthen my argument. I also have lots of friends added to my friends list that were dedicated tribes 1 demo players that I have come across over the past few months - we had a good deal of fun reminiscing about tribes 1 demo days on 56k modems... raindance being only 1 of the 3 maps in demo rotation and our special love for that map. And not surprisingly they are all unanimously sad at the current physics engine and implementation of autos and the like. The majority of vets I speak with feel exactly the same way (myself included). I can only hope that HiRez gives the community enough tools to make the game we all want to play rather than what we have right now. Naked spawns and no orbitals are a big step in the right direction. Fully customizable loadouts and the removal of everything but the AR would be a dream. The ability to adjust things like energy regen and energy pool would also be huge. _________________ eM.Piata : real men spawn naked
Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:14 pm

hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay I would be shocked if HiRez didn't regularly collect some pretty detailed statistics on weapon usage and effectiveness. I think it's a safe bet that whatever their numbers are, they do not bear out the level of doom-saying which is in this thread. _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:26 pm

irimi Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:37 am Posts: 478	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay hvcterr wrote: I would be shocked if HiRez didn't regularly collect some pretty detailed statistics on weapon usage and effectiveness. I think it's a safe bet that whatever their numbers are, they do not bear out the level of doom-saying which is in this thread. And I would be shocked if the numbers didn't lie. As I said before, there must be a large number of players who are still using explosives because they find it more fun and/or because they refuse to spend the 20 minutes to adapt to using automatics. I know this because to a small extent, I'm one of them. These people are playing Tribes the way they want Tribes to be played, even despite getting killed by less skilled players with automatics. Someone even replied up thread saying that their entire comp team did this and got ripped apart in the first match they had against a team that used automatics.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:35 pm

FelixTG Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 am Posts: 2245	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay Poll seems to be going well. _________________ Youtube -- Beowulf Feedback Thread L.L. wrote: A generation which ignores history has no past - and no future.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:25 pm

WitchDoctorVega Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am Posts: 2482 Location: On the coast, NH Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay FelixTG wrote: Poll seems to be going well. and he's a moderator, maybe they will take note this round. _________________ CYBRIDS 4 LYF! Metagens 4 ever!
Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:33 pm

UniversalPie Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm Posts: 619 Location: GTA Ontario	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay WitchDoctorVega wrote: FelixTG wrote: Poll seems to be going well. and he's a moderator, maybe they will take note this round. If they DO take note, the inevitable NJ5 nerf will be shockingly large compared to what paying customers will be expecting. I'm sure they won't do it all at once, or even within the next week... But for those who buy the new raider rifle, beware; there will likely be a hotfix nerf, followed hopefully by an auto nerf within a couple weeks. _________________
Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:16 pm

hvcterr Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am Posts: 1567	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay UniversalPie wrote: But for those who buy the new raider rifle, beware; there will likely be a hotfix nerf, followed hopefully by an auto nerf within a couple weeks. Or a nerf to the Raider's shield-pack/energy-pool behavior, which is the real catalyst. If the issue was purely the NJ4, then we'd see almost the same complaints about the Soldier's Assault Rifle. _________________ Did you know you can disable annoying signatures? Look under Board Preferences >> Edit Display Options.
Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:18 pm

SFJake Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:11 pm Posts: 381	Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay UniversalPie wrote: If they DO take note, the inevitable NJ5 nerf will be shockingly large compared to what paying customers will be expecting. I'm sure they won't do it all at once, or even within the next week... But for those who buy the new raider rifle, beware; there will likely be a hotfix nerf, followed hopefully by an auto nerf within a couple weeks. They barely attack any issues at all and you are actually expecting this? You're dreaming, you know that? _________________ http://sfjake.zxq.net
Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:55 am

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RaindanceFOREVA

Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:29 pm
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Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

ncc386 wrote:

BAITness wrote:

disci wrote:

Owait

I'm a old Tribes vet who is getting his Tribes fix from this game. I guess I'm one of the few in here who actually played Tribes and not just think they did.

Quoting this since you'll be gone in a few months and I want something to remember you by.

Edit: After seeing your post in the poll I'm gonna go ahead and call bs on your old tribes vetness.

If it's any consolation, I do remember the name 'disci' being in the #tribes in-game IRC that I helped moderate. I don't remember when he came along, but I want to say I remember kicking him more than once? lol

I'm not the only one that called BS, thats funny. His lack of maturity really detracts from his "arguments" doesn't it? :lol:

Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:44 pm

disci

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:48 pm
Posts: 1025
Location: Winland

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

ncc386 wrote:

BAITness wrote:

disci wrote:

Owait

I'm a old Tribes vet who is getting his Tribes fix from this game. I guess I'm one of the few in here who actually played Tribes and not just think they did.

Quoting this since you'll be gone in a few months and I want something to remember you by.

Edit: After seeing your post in the poll I'm gonna go ahead and call bs on your old tribes vetness.

I was not using dynamix irc server. You remember DiSk, not me.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:36 pm

Piata

Joined: Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:27 pm
Posts: 81

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

RaindanceFOREVA wrote:

disci wrote:

I on the other hand did play tribes 1 don't just say I did to strengthen my argument. I also have lots of friends added to my friends list that were dedicated tribes 1 demo players that I have come across over the past few months - we had a good deal of fun reminiscing about tribes 1 demo days on 56k modems... raindance being only 1 of the 3 maps in demo rotation and our special love for that map. And not surprisingly they are all unanimously sad at the current physics engine and implementation of autos and the like.

The majority of vets I speak with feel exactly the same way (myself included).

I can only hope that HiRez gives the community enough tools to make the game we all want to play rather than what we have right now. Naked spawns and no orbitals are a big step in the right direction. Fully customizable loadouts and the removal of everything but the AR would be a dream. The ability to adjust things like energy regen and energy pool would also be huge.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:14 pm

hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
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Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

I would be shocked if HiRez didn't regularly collect some pretty detailed statistics on weapon usage and effectiveness.

I think it's a safe bet that whatever their numbers are, they do not bear out the level of doom-saying which is in this thread.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:26 pm

irimi

Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:37 am
Posts: 478

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

hvcterr wrote:

And I would be shocked if the numbers didn't lie.

As I said before, there must be a large number of players who are still using explosives because they find it more fun and/or because they refuse to spend the 20 minutes to adapt to using automatics. I know this because to a small extent, I'm one of them. These people are playing Tribes the way they want Tribes to be played, even despite getting killed by less skilled players with automatics. Someone even replied up thread saying that their entire comp team did this and got ripped apart in the first match they had against a team that used automatics.

Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:35 pm

FelixTG

Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:11 am
Posts: 2245

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

Poll seems to be going well.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:25 pm

WitchDoctorVega

Joined: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:15 am
Posts: 2482
Location: On the coast, NH
Steam Gamer Name: ..WitchDoctor..

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

FelixTG wrote:

Poll seems to be going well.

and he's a moderator, maybe they will take note this round.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:33 pm

UniversalPie

Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:01 pm
Posts: 619
Location: GTA Ontario

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

WitchDoctorVega wrote:

FelixTG wrote:

Poll seems to be going well.

and he's a moderator, maybe they will take note this round.

If they DO take note, the inevitable NJ5 nerf will be shockingly large compared to what paying customers will be expecting. I'm sure they won't do it all at once, or even within the next week... But for those who buy the new raider rifle, beware; there will likely be a hotfix nerf, followed hopefully by an auto nerf within a couple weeks.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:16 pm

hvcterr

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2011 3:41 am
Posts: 1567

Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

UniversalPie wrote:

But for those who buy the new raider rifle, beware; there will likely be a hotfix nerf, followed hopefully by an auto nerf within a couple weeks.

Or a nerf to the Raider's shield-pack/energy-pool behavior, which is the real catalyst.

If the issue was purely the NJ4, then we'd see almost the same complaints about the Soldier's Assault Rifle.

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Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:18 pm

SFJake

Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:11 pm
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Re: Machine guns are destroying good gameplay

UniversalPie wrote:

They barely attack any issues at all and you are actually expecting this? You're dreaming, you know that?

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Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:55 am

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