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TimeSchocK Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:05 pm Posts: 41	We need more good bullets. In order to improve game performance and the expirience for everyone I suggest the following changes: 1. Remove the following classes: -Sentinel: This guy is the one that is totally out of place. I mean seriously, why is there a light class that just sits around one spot?! The sniper rifle is vastly out of place aswell. It totally defeats the purpose of GOTTA GO FAST. Now it's more like: "GOTTA GO UNDER RADAR". That's too much of a game change if you ask me. -Technician: Again. This one has nothing to do with Tribes. Not even remotely. He doesn't search for the speediest of speeds and that's why he has to be kicked. If you don't remove the class. At least make his turrets a one shot for everything. Now they're more like a stationary medium class with an automatic and aimbot altogether. -Doombringer: This one's totally against scheme. He has a chaingun with insanely huge DPS. WTF? He has already more health to make up for his fatness. And mines... WTF WTF WTF. For this crap you don't even need a brain to do kills. Just place one ontop of the flagstand.. and .. tada!! Instakill the first PTH that tries to GOTTA GO FAST. If you remove those 3 guys there are still 2 of every weight class. 2. Follow point #1 Last edited by TimeSchocK on Tue May 29, 2012 2:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tue May 29, 2012 1:20 pm

raqyee Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:52 am Posts: 1914	Re: We need more good bullets. Nice try. _________________ Feel free to add me on steam \| Member of conclave.cc
Tue May 29, 2012 1:34 pm

Arrob Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:09 am Posts: 128	Re: We need more good bullets. Defensive classes are for those who arent able to ski. Those who need to get kills in order to continue playing and paying, but actually didnt deserved a single one.
Tue May 29, 2012 1:52 pm

LordOpeth Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:01 pm Posts: 658	Re: We need more good bullets. wtf _________________ T1 - MrBungle T2 - (ZOC) MrBungle Why does allot here expcept dieng in big KABOOM glory but dont give honnor to the silent laser thro your head in air HS your dead ? -uFr49
Tue May 29, 2012 1:56 pm

Visible Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:26 am Posts: 161 Steam Gamer Name: Refuze	Re: We need more good bullets. not remove but tweak...
Tue May 29, 2012 2:08 pm

ghell Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:07 am Posts: 134	Re: We need more good bullets. I don't understand this thread title at all. Some of them definitely feel a bit cheesy in TDM, mostly due to map design. The game isn't balanced around TDM but there really should be at least some changes to make TDM a bit better without negatively affecting CTF. For example, the removal of the ledges around the edge of drydock night tdm or at the very least the removal of the inventory stations on them would help with sentinels and saber launchers essentially just camping the whole map as well as flag carriers just sitting on one ledge at full health until they get shot at, at which point they fly across the map to the other side, drop the flag, use an inventory station and pick up the flag again. The other cheesy tactic in TDM is for technicians to just drop a couple of light turrets by an inventory station and then either continue about their business or pretty much afk and let their turrets work for them. This could be solved with just a distance setting between light turrets and inventory stations. Turrets are generally easy to deal with but usually if you want to use an inventory station you're probably not in a good state to be dealing with 2 or more of them and some classes struggle with them more than others. If you actually do get killed by turrets and sabers it just feels like you got killed by an aimbot too, as it required no skill to kill you at all. None of these minor changes affect CTF or class balance but they would still make a noticeable improvement in TDM (and maybe arena, although dmbs just chain in arena and sentinels either falcon or don't exist). The only class change I would possibly like to see is for chain guns and saber launchers to occupy the same slot, so you have a choice of one or the other. Maybe they will improve things with the DMB update though. Last edited by ghell on Tue May 29, 2012 2:43 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Tue May 29, 2012 2:32 pm

TheTriforceKid Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:08 pm Posts: 50	Re: We need more good bullets. looks to me that someone is embarrassed that they got killed by turtles. If you're too stupid to shoot the flag stand and make sure there are no mines before you skate in, that's your problem. Of course, if you were in CTF for the TEAM PLAY, as was intended, instead of FOR YOURSELF, you'd talk with your teammates about defense locations, tell them what to attack, have them clear the flag stand for your approach..but if you can't be arsed enough to be a team player, then don't expect people to help you help yourself.
Tue May 29, 2012 2:34 pm

Fingon Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:55 pm Posts: 1486	Re: We need more good bullets. Arrob wrote: Defensive classes are for those who arent able to ski. Those who need to get kills in order to continue playing and paying, but actually didnt deserved a single one. Or for people who likes to be useful for their team and fills the slots that are not used. so I'm pretty much always Defence these days. f*** fun. _________________ Please support the cause for better CTF PUB games! TOP forum Thread Fingon's montages http://www.twitch.tv/Fingonar -Fingon, Flamboyant Teammember.
Tue May 29, 2012 2:43 pm

Firehawk45 Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:56 am Posts: 26	Re: We need more good bullets. I love it when ppl say "nah, sentinel standing in one spot"... and at this point, i stop reading your post and go kill some flag carriers. Why? Because thats what a defensive class is here for. And if that involves standin in a place where i can shut down the most effective routes (which everyone gets out of the internet, then follows it and rages about getting shot), then i do it. If it involves active skiing to catch the fleeing guy: Yes, im a f*** light class, i can do it. Oh, and if a sentinel is annoying you, why dont you send your teammates? Think about your answer, it will get destroyed here if it lacks credibility _________________ Ingame: Trevon (EU: Amsterdam)
Tue May 29, 2012 4:08 pm

TimeSchocK Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:05 pm Posts: 41	Re: We need more good bullets. Firehawk45 wrote: I love it when ppl say "nah, sentinel standing in one spot"... and at this point, i stop reading your post and go kill some flag carriers. Why? Because thats what a defensive class is here for. And if that involves standin in a place where i can shut down the most effective routes (which everyone gets out of the internet, then follows it and rages about getting shot), then i do it. If it involves active skiing to catch the fleeing guy: Yes, im a f*** light class, i can do it. Oh, and if a sentinel is annoying you, why dont you send your teammates? Think about your answer, it will get destroyed here if it lacks credibility Get out, Sentinel. Grab some no-skill kills while your time lasts.
Tue May 29, 2012 4:11 pm

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TimeSchocK

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:05 pm
Posts: 41

We need more good bullets.

In order to improve game performance and the expirience for everyone I suggest the following changes:

1. Remove the following classes:
-Sentinel:
This guy is the one that is totally out of place. I mean seriously, why is there a light class that just sits around one spot?!
The sniper rifle is vastly out of place aswell. It totally defeats the purpose of GOTTA GO FAST. Now it's more like: "GOTTA GO UNDER RADAR".
That's too much of a game change if you ask me.

-Technician:
Again. This one has nothing to do with Tribes. Not even remotely. He doesn't search for the speediest of speeds and that's why he has to be kicked.
If you don't remove the class. At least make his turrets a one shot for everything. Now they're more like a stationary medium class with an automatic and aimbot altogether.

-Doombringer:
This one's totally against scheme. He has a chaingun with insanely huge DPS. WTF? He has already more health to make up for his fatness.
And mines... WTF WTF WTF. For this crap you don't even need a brain to do kills. Just place one ontop of the flagstand.. and .. tada!! Instakill the first PTH that tries to GOTTA GO FAST.

If you remove those 3 guys there are still 2 of every weight class.

2. Follow point #1

Last edited by TimeSchocK on Tue May 29, 2012 2:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Tue May 29, 2012 1:20 pm

raqyee

Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2012 5:52 am
Posts: 1914

Re: We need more good bullets.

Nice try.

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Tue May 29, 2012 1:34 pm

Arrob

Joined: Sun Apr 01, 2012 5:09 am
Posts: 128

Re: We need more good bullets.

Defensive classes are for those who arent able to ski. Those who need to get kills in order to continue playing and paying, but actually didnt deserved a single one.

Tue May 29, 2012 1:52 pm

LordOpeth

Joined: Sat Oct 30, 2010 2:01 pm
Posts: 658

Re: We need more good bullets.

wtf

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T2 - (ZOC) MrBungle

Why does allot here expcept dieng in big KABOOM glory but dont give honnor to the silent laser thro your head in air HS your dead ? -uFr49

Tue May 29, 2012 1:56 pm

Visible

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:26 am
Posts: 161
Steam Gamer Name: Refuze

Re: We need more good bullets.

not remove but tweak...

Tue May 29, 2012 2:08 pm

ghell

Joined: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:07 am
Posts: 134

Re: We need more good bullets.

I don't understand this thread title at all.

Some of them definitely feel a bit cheesy in TDM, mostly due to map design. The game isn't balanced around TDM but there really should be at least some changes to make TDM a bit better without negatively affecting CTF.

For example, the removal of the ledges around the edge of drydock night tdm or at the very least the removal of the inventory stations on them would help with sentinels and saber launchers essentially just camping the whole map as well as flag carriers just sitting on one ledge at full health until they get shot at, at which point they fly across the map to the other side, drop the flag, use an inventory station and pick up the flag again.

The other cheesy tactic in TDM is for technicians to just drop a couple of light turrets by an inventory station and then either continue about their business or pretty much afk and let their turrets work for them. This could be solved with just a distance setting between light turrets and inventory stations.

Turrets are generally easy to deal with but usually if you want to use an inventory station you're probably not in a good state to be dealing with 2 or more of them and some classes struggle with them more than others. If you actually do get killed by turrets and sabers it just feels like you got killed by an aimbot too, as it required no skill to kill you at all.

None of these minor changes affect CTF or class balance but they would still make a noticeable improvement in TDM (and maybe arena, although dmbs just chain in arena and sentinels either falcon or don't exist).

The only class change I would possibly like to see is for chain guns and saber launchers to occupy the same slot, so you have a choice of one or the other. Maybe they will improve things with the DMB update though.

Last edited by ghell on Tue May 29, 2012 2:43 pm, edited 3 times in total.

Tue May 29, 2012 2:32 pm

TheTriforceKid

Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:08 pm
Posts: 50

Re: We need more good bullets.

looks to me that someone is embarrassed that they got killed by turtles. If you're too stupid to shoot the flag stand and make sure there are no mines before you skate in, that's your problem.

Of course, if you were in CTF for the TEAM PLAY, as was intended, instead of FOR YOURSELF, you'd talk with your teammates about defense locations, tell them what to attack, have them clear the flag stand for your approach..but if you can't be arsed enough to be a team player, then don't expect people to help you help yourself.

Tue May 29, 2012 2:34 pm

Fingon

Joined: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:55 pm
Posts: 1486

Re: We need more good bullets.

Arrob wrote:

Defensive classes are for those who arent able to ski. Those who need to get kills in order to continue playing and paying, but actually didnt deserved a single one.

Or for people who likes to be useful for their team and fills the slots that are not used.

so I'm pretty much always Defence these days.

f*** fun.

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Please support the cause for better CTF PUB games!
TOP forum Thread
Fingon's montages
http://www.twitch.tv/Fingonar
-Fingon, Flamboyant Teammember.

Tue May 29, 2012 2:43 pm

Firehawk45

Joined: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:56 am
Posts: 26

Re: We need more good bullets.

I love it when ppl say "nah, sentinel standing in one spot"... and at this point, i stop reading your post and go kill some flag carriers. Why? Because thats what a defensive class is here for. And if that involves standin in a place where i can shut down the most effective routes (which everyone gets out of the internet, then follows it and rages about getting shot), then i do it. If it involves active skiing to catch the fleeing guy: Yes, im a f*** light class, i can do it.

Oh, and if a sentinel is annoying you, why dont you send your teammates? Think about your answer, it will get destroyed here if it lacks credibility

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Tue May 29, 2012 4:08 pm

TimeSchocK

Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:05 pm
Posts: 41

Re: We need more good bullets.

Firehawk45 wrote:

Get out, Sentinel.
Grab some no-skill kills while your time lasts.

Tue May 29, 2012 4:11 pm

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