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Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4
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Beeman1991 Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:51 am Posts: 6296 Location: British Columbia Steam Gamer Name: beeman1991	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 MagiCandyBar wrote: Beeman1991 wrote: Honestly, you don't wanna pug it You would probably lose on wave 2 with a pug group honestly. Every wave before the boss wave seemed fine to me but d***, them rockets man, and that laser Poor Bancroft... But yeah the winrate seemed to be 2/3 for organized teams from what I heard _________________ HELP HIREZDUKE TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS SUPREME DICTATOR GA2
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:39 am

PlusNineteen Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:06 am Posts: 547 Location: PvE	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 Beeman1991 wrote: PVE already had better loot and gave more tokens... and it's 100x easier than merc (how many times have you lost in UMax? How many times have you lost in merc?) and having 2 man q's made having an odd-numbered group of friends s*** Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you You could sit in the dropship every game and still win half the time Merc gives almost no value to the individual, it is a team effort and when 50% of the time your team is completely assballs retarded and the other half red gets that team, your contribution means almost nothing when red is organized and you aren't, or vice versa Though I agree on the second part _________________ Pettan rabbits, in Japan
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:41 am

Beeman1991 Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:51 am Posts: 6296 Location: British Columbia Steam Gamer Name: beeman1991	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 PlusNineteen wrote: Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you http://agendastats.com/player.php?x=0&y=0&p=showgirl PvP Record 2709/5656 (48%) Edit: And they get lower _________________ HELP HIREZDUKE TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS SUPREME DICTATOR GA2
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:45 am

Hako Beta Tester Joined: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:01 pm Posts: 2654 Steam Gamer Name: Hako	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 Individual performance does matter. It's the idiots who just give up because they think they have no chance that make teams lose. _________________
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:49 am

PlusNineteen Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:06 am Posts: 547 Location: PvE	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 Beeman1991 wrote: PlusNineteen wrote: Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you http://agendastats.com/player.php?x=0&y=0&p=showgirl PvP Record 2709/5656 (48%) Edit: And they get lower You are a good example of the system at work Either your skill level is perfectly average, or you are better than most and get put on bad teams, or are worse than most and get put on good teams 48% is not that much of a deviation from 50% You've played enough matches that the game has a good idea of your skill level and puts you into queues that should be fair for you Other people that haven't played a lot might be lower/higher, yeah, but unless you roll a premade every game, after a certain point the game will give you around 50% I'd be more interested if you found someone with over 1000 or so matches with less than a 30% win rate, assuming they don't just faff about every match _________________ Pettan rabbits, in Japan
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:52 am

Davin Beta Tester Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:54 am Posts: 1048	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 Hakoten wrote: Individual performance does matter. It's the idiots who just give up because they think they have no chance that make teams lose. At least until half your team has raged early because surefour is sniping. Then it's just an exercise in feeding the other team kills.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:57 am

Canucck Alpha Tester Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:54 pm Posts: 3935	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 I see... Is there at least an outlook for things you wanted to do but were unable to get into this patch? Last edited by Canucck on Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:05 am, edited 1 time in total.
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:58 am

PlusNineteen Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:06 am Posts: 547 Location: PvE	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 annendum: Well, the game SHOULD balance matches based on your wins and whatnot, but most of the time it's just like >oh he won last match, lets put him on a retard team to lose >oh he lost last match, lets put him on a pro team to be carried And it just alternates back and forth depending on how many people are in the queue _________________ Pettan rabbits, in Japan
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:58 am

Beeman1991 Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:51 am Posts: 6296 Location: British Columbia Steam Gamer Name: beeman1991	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 PlusNineteen wrote: Beeman1991 wrote: PlusNineteen wrote: Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you http://agendastats.com/player.php?x=0&y=0&p=showgirl PvP Record 2709/5656 (48%) Edit: And they get lower You are a good example of the system at work Either your skill level is perfectly average, or you are better than most and get put on bad teams, or are worse than most and get put on good teams 48% is not that much of a deviation from 50% You've played enough matches that the game has a good idea of your skill level and puts you into queues that should be fair for you Other people that haven't played a lot might be lower/higher, yeah, but unless you roll a premade every game, after a certain point the game will give you around 50% I'd be more interested if you found someone with over 1000 or so matches with less than a 30% win rate, assuming they don't just faff about every match ... that's showgirl, not me lol in about 10 seconds of looking I found 48%, 44% and 41% the 41 has over 2k matches played CaerusX has almost a 60% winrate and still gets placed in games where he gets triple digit kills if you wanna look at the other end of things _________________ HELP HIREZDUKE TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS SUPREME DICTATOR GA2
Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:59 am

ivr56 Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:59 pm Posts: 97	Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4 -- Conquest Vendors Combat Jetpacks now available at level 30. Crescent Jetpacks now available for tokens. The purchasable versions require level 50 and cannot be traded. (No change to Mercenary Reward Loot versions.) -- Just noticed that. Nice. Shooting and Flying earlier ^.^ Wonder how much tokens the CPJs go for. _________________ Community Youtube Channel
Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:30 am

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Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

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Beeman1991

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Location: British Columbia
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Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

MagiCandyBar wrote:

Beeman1991 wrote:

Honestly, you don't wanna pug it

You would probably lose on wave 2 with a pug group honestly.

Every wave before the boss wave seemed fine to me
but d***, them rockets man, and that laser
Poor Bancroft...
But yeah the winrate seemed to be 2/3 for organized teams from what I heard

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HELP HIREZDUKE TAKE HIS RIGHTFUL PLACE AS SUPREME DICTATOR GA2

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:39 am

PlusNineteen

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:06 am
Posts: 547
Location: PvE

Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

Beeman1991 wrote:

PVE already had better loot and gave more tokens... and it's 100x easier than merc (how many times have you lost in UMax? How many times have you lost in merc?)
and having 2 man q's made having an odd-numbered group of friends s***

Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you
You could sit in the dropship every game and still win half the time
Merc gives almost no value to the individual, it is a team effort and when 50% of the time your team is completely assballs retarded and the other half red gets that team, your contribution means almost nothing when red is organized and you aren't, or vice versa

Though I agree on the second part

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:41 am

Beeman1991

Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:51 am
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Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

PlusNineteen wrote:

Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you

http://agendastats.com/player.php?x=0&y=0&p=showgirl
PvP Record 2709/5656 (48%)
Edit: And they get lower

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:45 am

Hako

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Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

Individual performance does matter. It's the idiots who just give up because they think they have no chance that make teams lose.

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:49 am

PlusNineteen

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:06 am
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Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

Beeman1991 wrote:

PlusNineteen wrote:

Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you

http://agendastats.com/player.php?x=0&y=0&p=showgirl
PvP Record 2709/5656 (48%)
Edit: And they get lower

You are a good example of the system at work
Either your skill level is perfectly average, or you are better than most and get put on bad teams, or are worse than most and get put on good teams
48% is not that much of a deviation from 50%
You've played enough matches that the game has a good idea of your skill level and puts you into queues that should be fair for you

Other people that haven't played a lot might be lower/higher, yeah, but unless you roll a premade every game, after a certain point the game will give you around 50%

I'd be more interested if you found someone with over 1000 or so matches with less than a 30% win rate, assuming they don't just faff about every match

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Pettan rabbits, in Japan

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:52 am

Davin

Beta Tester

Joined: Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:54 am
Posts: 1048

Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

Hakoten wrote:

Individual performance does matter. It's the idiots who just give up because they think they have no chance that make teams lose.

At least until half your team has raged early because surefour is sniping.

Then it's just an exercise in feeding the other team kills.

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:57 am

Canucck

Alpha Tester

Joined: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:54 pm
Posts: 3935

Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

I see...

Is there at least an outlook for things you wanted to do but were unable to get into this patch?

Last edited by Canucck on Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:05 am, edited 1 time in total.

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:58 am

PlusNineteen

Joined: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:06 am
Posts: 547
Location: PvE

Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

annendum:
Well, the game SHOULD balance matches based on your wins and whatnot, but most of the time it's just like
>oh he won last match, lets put him on a retard team to lose
>oh he lost last match, lets put him on a pro team to be carried
And it just alternates back and forth depending on how many people are in the queue

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Pettan rabbits, in Japan

Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:58 am

Beeman1991

Joined: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:51 am
Posts: 6296
Location: British Columbia
Steam Gamer Name: beeman1991

Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

PlusNineteen wrote:

Beeman1991 wrote:

PlusNineteen wrote:

Remember how the game forces a 50% w/l on you

http://agendastats.com/player.php?x=0&y=0&p=showgirl
PvP Record 2709/5656 (48%)
Edit: And they get lower

... that's showgirl, not me lol
in about 10 seconds of looking I found 48%, 44% and 41%
the 41 has over 2k matches played
CaerusX has almost a 60% winrate and still gets placed in games where he gets triple digit kills if you wanna look at the other end of things

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:59 am

ivr56

Joined: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:59 pm
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Re: Patch Notes: April 14 , 2011 - VERSION 1.4

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Conquest Vendors
Combat Jetpacks now available at level 30.
Crescent Jetpacks now available for tokens. The purchasable versions require level 50 and cannot be traded. (No change to Mercenary Reward Loot versions.)
--
Just noticed that. Nice.
Shooting and Flying earlier ^.^

Wonder how much tokens the CPJs go for.

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Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:30 am